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Post by CONCERNED YOTE on Jul 1, 2011 7:31:54 GMT -6
I heard that the offensive line coach from USD, Tony Spencer, is leaving to take a job at the University of Mary. Now I know why there was a little get together for him last night. Does anyone know anything about this? This is a little late for the Yotes to be trying to find a new OL coach. I thought that he did a great job and always had guys ready to play. Love his intensity. Any thoughts on the next guy in and why are sooooooo many people jumping ship from Ed and leaving?
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Post by 88grad on Jul 1, 2011 8:24:30 GMT -6
There's nothing about it on Mary's website or Bismarck's newspaper. Hopefully it's not the case?! Why would anyone leave a D1 school to go to a transitional D2 school unless it was the head coach or possibly a coordinator's position? In any case, there was nothing about those positions being open either. I really don't wanna see TS leave but all of the folks that have left have left for spots that elevated their careers. Who can blame them? We're the ones who are emotionally invested in the school.
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Post by YES on Jul 1, 2011 8:50:42 GMT -6
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Post by U Fan on Jul 1, 2011 8:53:19 GMT -6
Betting U of Mary gives more than 1 year contracts. All SD schools are going to continue to lose good people if there is no guarantee that you have a job from 1 year to the next.
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Post by yoteforever on Jul 1, 2011 9:25:29 GMT -6
Coach Spencer is leaving USD because he has been offered a coordinators position at the new school. It is my belief that Coach Ed doesn't believe that Tony is coordinator material at this point, so Coach Spencer might view this as an opportunity he needs to take advantage of.
There are no hard feelings with Coach Meierkort or Tony. They are parting on good terms. Yes, it is bad timing, but behind every cloud there is a silver lining. We may end up with a very talented coach in the process, so I would suggest we play this thing out.
To Coach Spencer, good luck in your new endeavor. Thank you for all you have done for USD, and best wishes in your new job. To Coach Ed, go find the best possible coach out there and lets make 2011 a memorable one. This is going to be a fun year.
In conclusion, until the SD BOR changes their policies on one year contracts, both USD and SDSU will always be at risk. That is precisely why you need a strong PRESIDENT, and Jim Abbott is just that. They know how to skip around things. The public needs to put pressure on these clowns to change an antiquated policy.
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Post by jman1985 on Jul 1, 2011 10:50:38 GMT -6
Not sure this leaves much time to find a quality coach, but you know Ed will be on the phone all day every day. We all know how much he prides the running game, and how key the o-line has been to the offense since Ed came to town.
Tony was the longest-tenured assistant left on the staff, and while I'm sure he's had other chances to leave, this one should open a lot of people's eyes to the fact that one-year contracts won't get it done in Division I.
It's time to change the Regents policies to reflect the Division I world we live in.
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Post by GoYotes on Jul 1, 2011 11:14:16 GMT -6
I am not sure how beneficial multi-year contracts are at retaining coaches (or any employees, for that matter). I don't think any have left for better job security as none of the head coaches at the U have a reputation for firing assistant coaches. My understanding is that most of the asst coaches that have left USD have done so because of an opportunity to advance in the coaching field. I think it shows that our head coaches have a good record of finding good assistants. Actually one year contracts may be preferable for the assistant positions. A multi year contract may prevent them from taking advantage of opportunities to advance and nothing is worse than having a person in a position they no longer want to be in.
If anything, more $$$$ would help in retaining staff. Having a track record of assistants moving on to better positions should be a plus in hiring a qualified replacement.
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Post by jman1985 on Jul 1, 2011 17:11:31 GMT -6
Jeremy Hoeck from the Yankton P&D had on his twitter earlier that he confirmed Tony Spencer is leaving for Mary.
Sad to see him go, especially this close to the start of the season. Not much experience left on the coaching staff.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Jul 2, 2011 2:47:33 GMT -6
So, I have heard from some sources that Spencer didn't leave and he was let go. So seems like multi-year contracts don't play a factor here. Already heard Meierkort has someone in place and that the search is done. So, Tony Spencer was on the chopping block huh? Wonder what happened for him to be let go since he was there for so long?
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Post by CONCERNED YOTE on Jul 2, 2011 9:35:58 GMT -6
Actually I talked to TS and Ed yesterday at the dome and they both confirmed that TS is leaving on his own and that he wants to be a coordinator. That came from the both of them and they both told the same story. In fact they both just kind of looked at me stupid when I asked if TS was let go (TS just said "Wow that's a new one") From what I hear Ed was mad that he decided to go but did offer him an Assistant Head Coaching title. TS stated that he wants to be a coordinator soon (this is his 16th year coaching) and said that Wes isn't going anywhere soon and he is next in line here and may not get to be the OC here for a long time. So I don't know what or where you got your info from #1CoyoteFan. It is just sad to see him go and like you said there isn't a lot of experience left on the staff. From what I hear, Tim Triplett will be moving to OL and they will bring in a WR coach. I may be wrong but that is what I was getting from the buzz around the office. Ed and TS didn't confirm at all though. In fact TS just said that Ed makes those decisions and that if I wanted to know that I have to ask him. Good luck TS in the future in Bismarck I wish you the best and it will be interesting to see what decision Ed makes. Hopefully we will find a quality coach for the OL like TS was.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Jul 2, 2011 13:22:46 GMT -6
Haha, that's funny because my sources heard it from the head honcho when he was in Mitchell lol. I didn't hear it personally, but these people have been VERY reliable sources for me so far, so I have no reason not to believe them 100 percent. Interesting ... honestly, Ed has always put his own little twist on things, like every football coach - not to the extent of Jim Tressell by any means though.
I also learned never to believe anything TS has ever said, actually. I think the guy is a great coach, but I just could never trust him to tell me the truth ... which goes into being a great coach in today's day and age.
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Post by YotesWin on Jul 3, 2011 16:05:13 GMT -6
In several coaching circles I've been around (SD, MN, and WI) it is no secret that Ed is hard on his assistants and it wears them out. That is why many jump ship quick. That, or they bail because it looks like they are on a sinking ship ( IE Turnover on MN Brewsters staff). I dunno what's going on, but my experiences have shown me those 2 reasons are most likely. It will be a make or break season either way for the Yotes. Ill be there rooting for them.
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Post by CONCERNED YOTE on Jul 3, 2011 16:36:23 GMT -6
That is funny #1coyote fan because you heard it from a source and I heard it from both of their mouths in the flesh. And I forgot to tell you that they were standing about 3 feet away from each other when I asked the question. So I am going to go with the horses mouth as they told it to me together as they were standing by each other. You can't get any more clearer picture to a rumor than that. As for not believing what TS has to say....... Actually he never said a lot to anyone because he wasn't that kind of guy, but he was very easy to get along with, always had a smile on his face and spoke to everyone when in passing.......... Sometimes it did seem like he didn't want to tell too much info on certain things but I wonder how much of that was because of the way Ed was on his staff like Yotes Win suggested? Maybe it was the company line that Ed had his assistants tell everyone. Maybe it was something else. Who knows. Let's just say that TS said he was "Itching" to be a coordinator and head coach and that he didn't see Wes going anywhere soon. He did say that he loved it here in Vermillion, made a lot of friends and that he would love to come back someday. I feel that we lost a great coach and that it is going to be an interesting season for the YOTES. I am on board with the YOTE TRAIN........Are you? Again good luck TS.....We all wish you the best.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2011 21:04:35 GMT -6
That is funny #1coyote fan because you heard it from a source and I heard it from both of their mouths in the flesh. And I forgot to tell you that they were standing about 3 feet away from each other when I asked the question. So I am going to go with the horses mouth as they told it to me together as they were standing by each other. You can't get any more clearer picture to a rumor than that. As for not believing what TS has to say....... Actually he never said a lot to anyone because he wasn't that kind of guy, but he was very easy to get along with, always had a smile on his face and spoke to everyone when in passing.......... Sometimes it did seem like he didn't want to tell too much info on certain things but I wonder how much of that was because of the way Ed was on his staff like Yotes Win suggested? Maybe it was the company line that Ed had his assistants tell everyone. Maybe it was something else. Who knows. Let's just say that TS said he was "Itching" to be a coordinator and head coach and that he didn't see Wes going anywhere soon. He did say that he loved it here in Vermillion, made a lot of friends and that he would love to come back someday. I feel that we lost a great coach and that it is going to be an interesting season for the YOTES. I am on board with the YOTE TRAIN........Are you? Again good luck TS.....We all wish you the best. If its a case where a coach's contract is not renewed and he was advised that it would not be renewed some time back, Coach Spencer no doubt got his resume in the mail and fortunately he got a job before June 30th which would make him eligible to resign, and not be fired. When you got the stupid looks from Ed and the other coach they were surprised that you had some inside information that you should not have. Football coaching staffs have to work together and when there are differences about procedures and what have you the head coach has to make a decisionn on who is right and who stays and who goes since his job is riding on how well his staff works together.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2011 21:12:40 GMT -6
So, I have heard from some sources that Spencer didn't leave and he was let go. So seems like multi-year contracts don't play a factor here. Already heard Meierkort has someone in place and that the search is done. So, Tony Spencer was on the chopping block huh? Wonder what happened for him to be let go since he was there for so long? Could be a number of things, that why its a personnel matter which Ed can not talk about or if he did he would risk a law suit. I suspect Spencer got his walking papers at the end of last season. These multi year contracts can get to be expensive if you dont have the right guy in place. I am not sure if they will even work for head coaches, as a program heading south needs an immediate change and if the coach just signed a 5 yr deal, then you got to buy the 4 years of salary in settlement.
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