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Post by sd4ever on Feb 27, 2014 20:36:31 GMT -6
It's real nice to get 'routed' once again by a Bizun team. Is anyone else having a hard time with this?
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Post by sd4ever on Feb 27, 2014 20:50:07 GMT -6
Well 82 to 54 is the final and it was worse than that. Yotes get a few cheap points late or they would not have gotten to 50. I know it is only the second year that SD has been playoff eligible but shouldn't the program be a little more competitive than this? I don't expect a much better outcome on Saturday either. Prepare for an opening day loss in Sioux Falls.
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Post by jackl on Feb 27, 2014 21:09:45 GMT -6
It's real nice to get 'routed' once again by a Bizun team. Is anyone else having a hard time with this? Nah. I'm ok with it. |
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Post by yotefan on Feb 27, 2014 21:29:25 GMT -6
I didn't know Cass County let their inmates have internet access. Lakes must have graduated to trustee.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 27, 2014 22:02:01 GMT -6
It's real nice to get 'routed' once again by a Bizun team. Is anyone else having a hard time with this? Nah. I'm ok with it. Says the guy whose team already got swept by them... |
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Post by sd4ever on Feb 27, 2014 23:04:50 GMT -6
Says the guy whose team already got swept by them... He probably thinks that the Jackies are 'for sure' going to the Final 4 this season too. Oh how juvenile of me. So the Brooksville Bums (they have Hobo Day there you know) will probably win the game on Saturday. I don't see anything in the Yotes that would make me feel otherwise. Well, so what. The fact of the matter is that the Summit League Champ will year after year just be fodder for a first round blowout in the Big Dance like so many other conference champs. Example this year: Arizona 97 SL Champ 52 (at best). No winner of the SL will ever get passed the round of 32 and most likely will never win a first round game. So go ahead and be excited about maybe winning the regular season title or maybe the Tourney but that's all it's ever going to be. That includes you guys State and State. At least with FCS Football there is a chance to play for a National Title. Glorified D2 BBall doesn't excite me very much. Sorry, feel free to try to convince me otherwise. Go Coyotes anyway! |
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Post by bisonbohl on Feb 27, 2014 23:21:58 GMT -6
Says the guy whose team already got swept by them... He probably thinks that the Jackies are 'for sure' going to the Final 4 this season too. Oh how juvenile of me. So the Brooksville Bums (they have Hobo Day there you know) will probably win the game on Saturday. I don't see anything in the Yotes that would make me feel otherwise. Well, so what. The fact of the matter is that the Summit League Champ will year after year just be fodder for a first round blowout in the Big Dance like so many other conference champs. Example this year: Arizona 97 SL Champ 52 (at best). No winner of the SL will ever get passed the round of 32 and most likely will never win a first round game. So go ahead and be excited about maybe winning the regular season title or maybe the Tourney but that's all it's ever going to be. That includes you guys State and State. At least with FCS Football there is a chance to play for a National Title. Glorified D2 BBall doesn't excite me very much. Sorry, feel free to try to convince me otherwise. Go Coyotes anyway! And this right here is why you guys suck so much, great attitude and outlook... |
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Post by Yotes on Feb 27, 2014 23:27:20 GMT -6
Says the guy whose team already got swept by them... He probably thinks that the Jackies are 'for sure' going to the Final 4 this season too. Oh how juvenile of me. So the Brooksville Bums (they have Hobo Day there you know) will probably win the game on Saturday. I don't see anything in the Yotes that would make me feel otherwise. Well, so what. The fact of the matter is that the Summit League Champ will year after year just be fodder for a first round blowout in the Big Dance like so many other conference champs. Example this year: Arizona 97 SL Champ 52 (at best). No winner of the SL will ever get passed the round of 32 and most likely will never win a first round game. So go ahead and be excited about maybe winning the regular season title or maybe the Tourney but that's all it's ever going to be. That includes you guys State and State. At least with FCS Football there is a chance to play for a National Title. Glorified D2 BBall doesn't excite me very much. Sorry, feel free to try to convince me otherwise. Go Coyotes anyway! Yeah, the postseason is rather bleak for small conference champions, but what can you do? I don't see a basketball subdivision coming soon to make "national" championships plausible, but I have no problem with a NCAA Tourney berth being the ultimate goal every year. |
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Post by lakesbison on Feb 28, 2014 0:36:11 GMT -6
I see that the Lakes started this thread. That kinda bothers me.] Don't let it bother you, isn't my fault ! Being at the game, NDSU played great defense, usd had zero spark. Even gruis was flustered tonight and he's a senior. You need some juco help I think. Cya in s falls Beat the bunny turds Here's the video of game. The dunk at 1:25 by our freshman pg is siiiick youtu.be/LmpvH2RXrtY |
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Post by yotemeal on Feb 28, 2014 4:38:21 GMT -6
It was the type of performance I feared and frankly found probable. NDSU needed a win to wrap up sole possession of the Summit League regular season title. We, on the other hand, are essentially locked into the 4-5 game. No excuse to play like we did, but this is the time of year we start seeing motivating factors really have an impact on the scoreboard. NDSU is a much better team, by the way. Might see more of the same in Brookings, as the Jacks are playing for much more than we are.
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Post by yoteforever on Feb 28, 2014 7:38:56 GMT -6
He probably thinks that the Jackies are 'for sure' going to the Final 4 this season too. Oh how juvenile of me. So the Brooksville Bums (they have Hobo Day there you know) will probably win the game on Saturday. I don't see anything in the Yotes that would make me feel otherwise. Well, so what. The fact of the matter is that the Summit League Champ will year after year just be fodder for a first round blowout in the Big Dance like so many other conference champs. Example this year: Arizona 97 SL Champ 52 (at best). No winner of the SL will ever get passed the round of 32 and most likely will never win a first round game. So go ahead and be excited about maybe winning the regular season title or maybe the Tourney but that's all it's ever going to be. That includes you guys State and State. At least with FCS Football there is a chance to play for a National Title. Glorified D2 BBall doesn't excite me very much. Sorry, feel free to try to convince me otherwise. Go Coyotes anyway! And this right here is why you guys suck so much, great attitude and outlook... I have to partially agree. My passion for Coyote athletics is probably off the chart as normal people would consider it, but I don't care anymore, I just don't get it. I'm sick and fricking tired of an overall apathetic fan base. I don't give a shit if we were 0-15 in a Summit play, I would expect us to beat NDSU because that's how athletes and fans I believe are supposed to think. Holy shit, our first basket mind you came with 6 something left to go until half. WTF? Bisonbohl, while you have struck a chord with me, and I said I partially agree, I also know what USD is all about. There is so etching, or someone out there that can lead this damned program, make hires, and raise funds that can elevate this program. I for one refuse to accept being behind XDSU and making excuses why. Do you know why we are behind? Because right now they have better programs....period. They also have fan bases that give a crap. Our fan base (this board excluded) is horrific. Why, I don't know. It might be leadership, it might be we haven't changed how we do business, I just don't know, but I'm sick of it. Losing to the Bison like we did is simply not acceptable. If we played up to our ability, then that says we don't have the athletes. If we had the talent to compete, and got our ass kicked like that, then it's coaching. I'm not a basketball guy, but I watch a crap load of games, and although personally I love our guys, they don't compete. And I love Coach James to death, but if he can't get them to play any better than what I saw last night, then we need a change. I'll say it, and I hate saying it, but I'm done accepting mediocre play from any team. Let's build this department the correct way. To start with, they need funds...i.e. $$$$$$. Let's build the Howling Pack up, get new members, and create some excitement. Lets expand our base, work Yankton, Sioux City, and western Iowa and focus on drawing them into the fold. Then hire absolutely the best coaches available, give them the $$ to succeed, and hold them accountable. I don't give a crap what the sport is, but having a huge emphasis on football, men's and women's basketball, and volleyball. Also, keep the bucks rolling for T and F, and just stay the hell out of their way because that is the one program that knows how to get it done. I'm not a track guy, but by god I admire what they have done. So fund them, and clear out. After all people, we are THE UNIVERSITY of the state of a South Dakota. No more excuses. Let's get this done. |
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Post by Charlie on Feb 28, 2014 10:57:40 GMT -6
I haven't bee a Coyote fan for very long. I married into the Coyote fan base. I've only followed the Yotes for 6 years now. I guess I've only really watched the Yotes in the D1 transition phase but I agree with Yoteforever 100%. I'm sick of watching mediocre play. I think the only way to strengthen the fan base is to win. Plain and simple.
I also think we need to try and focus and drawing fans who live south of Vermilion. Sioux City, western Iowa and northern Nebraska are untapped resources when it comes to D1 athletics. As hard as we try, we hare never going to draw as much support from SF as the Bunnies. I'm not saying that we need to quit trying but we need to realize people living outside of SF have $ that is as green as those who live in SF.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 28, 2014 18:52:21 GMT -6
And this right here is why you guys suck so much, great attitude and outlook... I have to partially agree. My passion for Coyote athletics is probably off the chart as normal people would consider it, but I don't care anymore, I just don't get it. I'm sick and fricking tired of an overall apathetic fan base. I don't give a shit if we were 0-15 in a Summit play, I would expect us to beat NDSU because that's how athletes and fans I believe are supposed to think. Holy shit, our first basket mind you came with 6 something left to go until half. WTF? Bisonbohl, while you have struck a chord with me, and I said I partially agree, I also know what USD is all about. There is so etching, or someone out there that can lead this damned program, make hires, and raise funds that can elevate this program. I for one refuse to accept being behind XDSU and making excuses why. Do you know why we are behind? Because right now they have better programs....period. They also have fan bases that give a crap. Our fan base (this board excluded) is horrific. Why, I don't know. It might be leadership, it might be we haven't changed how we do business, I just don't know, but I'm sick of it. Losing to the Bison like we did is simply not acceptable. If we played up to our ability, then that says we don't have the athletes. If we had the talent to compete, and got our ass kicked like that, then it's coaching. I'm not a basketball guy, but I watch a crap load of games, and although personally I love our guys, they don't compete. And I love Coach James to death, but if he can't get them to play any better than what I saw last night, then we need a change. I'll say it, and I hate saying it, but I'm done accepting mediocre play from any team. Let's build this department the correct way. To start with, they need funds...i.e. $$$$$$. Let's build the Howling Pack up, get new members, and create some excitement. Lets expand our base, work Yankton, Sioux City, and western Iowa and focus on drawing them into the fold. Then hire absolutely the best coaches available, give them the $$ to succeed, and hold them accountable. I don't give a crap what the sport is, but having a huge emphasis on football, men's and women's basketball, and volleyball. Also, keep the bucks rolling for T and F, and just stay the hell out of their way because that is the one program that knows how to get it done. I'm not a track guy, but by god I admire what they have done. So fund them, and clear out. After all people, we are THE UNIVERSITY of the state of a South Dakota. No more excuses. Let's get this done. Yoteforever you are sounding more and more like me everyday. Nice post. :-) When I walk out of the dome (which honestly hasn't been very often lately) after a loss or I listen to a game after a loss I get so worked up but I feel like I am one of the only ones that really cares. Because of that I have lost some interest in Coyote athletics because I don't feel the feeling is mutual. For the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would want Joey James back for another year unless the Yotes make the big dance. That should be the only way he stays on. He is not D1 head coaching material because he hasn't earned his way to be in the position he is in. He should have to go through the proper channels to be where he is now and he simply hasn't. Some people let their big hearts get into the way of doing the best thing for the program. There will likely be some surprising applicants IMO that would really put a jolt into the program. Football is even worse when it comes to being sick to my stomach. I want things done right and when it appears that they aren't I get discouraged. Instead of bashing each other we should feel sick to our stomachs together. I don't feel the athletic department wants to win as bad as some on this board do. I honestly don't think Herbster has really done much since he has taken over. He does do one thing and that is to keep pushing back the date that the arena project is to get going. In an interview I heard from him from over a year ago he promised it would get started in the fall of 2013. I guess that didn't happen. If it wasn't for Saylor and Herbster had been in charge I doubt very much we'd even be talking new facilities. We need a visionary at AD and I don't know that Herbster is it. Maybe I am totally wrong on him but he doesn't come off like Saylor did. |
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Post by sdyotefan on Mar 1, 2014 0:19:29 GMT -6
Coyotefan and others--It's interesting to me that when the Yotes win and yes they do win you have very little to say. When they lose boy do you unload. CF if you don't think the football program is headed in the right direction you're nuts!! Like it or not NDSU and SDSU are senior loaded, very experienced teams in both FB and BB and the Yotes have 2 seniors in BB and most of the team hasn't played together before this yr. Wanting to win doesn't equate to wins. Everyone WANTS to win but to build successful D1 teams is not quick or easy!! Constantly coach bashing isn't the answer. I believe all the Coyote coaches work their butts off and bleed Coyote red. So give it a rest, help get people to the dome and SUPPORT THE COYOTES!!
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Post by Yotes on Mar 1, 2014 3:48:40 GMT -6
I believe that we have the right coaches in place for WBB, Volleyball, and Football, though football will change too soon and I'm going to be a bit disappointed when Beschorner is named Head Coach. Wesley, like Joey, just hasn't done anything to really merit having a head coaching position at a Division 1 program. Wes will benefit from the huge mark that Glenn leaves on the program, and he'll probably look good for at least a couple years, but I can't help but feel he will end up taking us right back to where we were with Meirkort.
What is Herbster going to do? Certainly he doesn't come off as quite the go-getter the last two ADs were, those guys were able to jump to MAC programs very quickly. The issue with the arena and whether or not to be above or below ground was puzzling, and I'm no architect, but why is the water table such an issue when the Dome has been fine for decades? Is this ineptitude on his part? The project is supposed to be under way in May, and I feel like it was an official date and not hearsay.
Herbster knows full well that winning cures everything, the fans will show themselves if we start fielding highly competitive teams. Is he going to appoint the best man for the job after the season ends? Barring a Summit Championship in Sioux Falls, I don't think Joey should stay as head coach. We are Division 1 now, we don't have to hire an unproven assistant from a small D-1 program to be our full-time head coach. We should be able to hire either top talent from the D-2 ranks or assistants from much larger programs than our own, and the same goes for football too once Glenn leaves. Having former players who bleed red is great, but they've never seen another program and haven't gained that essential experience.
We will soon be seeing Herbster's first big chance to leave an impression on the program. He is a basketball guy, I hear he was captain of the Virginia Tech team once upon a time, so I know he can judge basketball talent. Hopefully he leads us down the right path.
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