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Post by Yotes on Feb 8, 2018 18:01:34 GMT -6
I doubt Youngstown State would under report attendance figures. Something doesn't add up.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 8, 2018 21:41:06 GMT -6
Later in the release they posted attendance for all of the schools and they listed the 2016 attendance numbers not the 2017. So yes those are fake numbers so to speak. Only the top 30 FCS schools listed have the correct attendance for 2017 and since USD was not in the top 30 schools, we have no idea what your attendance numbers actually are.
Go to GoYotes.com, click on Football, then Statistics, then 2017 Season, Cumulative Season Stats, and home attendance is one of the items on the Team Stats. stats.goyotes.com/custompages/sports/m-footbl/2017/teamcume.htm9,347 is USD's 2017 average, which is the highest in 10 years, and probably longer. 8,835 is USD's 2016 average, and you are right. The NCAA lists the 2016 numbers on the 2017 report. Hopefully somebody lets them know. It's not like the NCAA is an under-funded operation. They should get it right. Also, I couldn't get your links to work, but I think that it's because they are links to online PDFs. I think this is what you are linking to: www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/ncaa-football-attendance |
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Feb 8, 2018 21:48:27 GMT -6
I don't think norcal jack was intending to be a jerk in his post. He was just correcting Hoeck on posting the '16 numbers.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 8, 2018 21:52:27 GMT -6
I don't think norcal jack was intending to be a jerk in his post. He was just correcting Hoeck on posting the '16 numbers. Yeah, I got that. I'm not intending to be a jerk either. Just saying the info is easy to find, if you know where to look. I just edited out the snarky part.... Come to think of it, someone that's on Twitter may want to let Jeremy know his numbers are wrong. |
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Post by usdtator on Feb 8, 2018 22:33:53 GMT -6
I don't think norcal jack was intending to be a jerk in his post. He was just correcting Hoeck on posting the '16 numbers. Yeah, I got that. I'm not intending to be a jerk either. Just saying the info is easy to find, if you know where to look. I just edited out the snarky part.... Come to think of it, someone that's on Twitter may want to let Jeremy know his numbers are wrong. I just replied to his tweet about the 2017 numbers you just posted. I hope your numbers are correct or I'll look like a douche bag... ;-) |
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Post by usdtator on Feb 9, 2018 6:34:22 GMT -6
He replied back to me that he was just using the numbers off the list put out by the NCAA for 2017.
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Post by sdyotefan on Feb 9, 2018 7:30:49 GMT -6
It would also be interesting to see numbers for 2017 as a percentage of stadium capacity. Hopefully we have a math major on the board!
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Post by Yotes on Feb 9, 2018 7:32:38 GMT -6
It would also be interesting to see numbers for 2017 as a percentage of stadium capacity. Hopefully we have a math major on the board! I'd ballpark it at about 100-150% of capacity on average. |
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 9, 2018 8:30:01 GMT -6
It would also be interesting to see numbers for 2017 as a percentage of stadium capacity. Hopefully we have a math major on the board! Ok, I'll bite. It's not like I was going to get any work done today anyway........ Give me a few minutes.... |
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 9, 2018 9:03:09 GMT -6
He replied back to me that he was just using the numbers off the list put out by the NCAA for 2017. Right. NorcalJack was right, though. The "Top 30" from that report was the 2017 numbers, but the "listing by school" for all the schools was wrong. They used the 2016 numbers for some reason. Hopefully it will get corrected. I'll post what I find from the MVFC websites.... |
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 9, 2018 10:27:54 GMT -6
2016 & 2017 MVFC Football Home Attendance by school (as reported from each team's box scores). Rank--2016--2017-(change)--school--capacity*--(%full)#1--18,556-- 18,333-(-223)-- NDSU--19,000--(96%) #2--12,439-- 14,203-(+1,764)- YSU--20,630--(69%) #3--13,753--11,994-(-1,759)-SDSU-19,340--(62%)#4--10,156-- 11,440-(+1284)- ILS----13,391--(85%) #0---9,944--10,428-(+484)--UND---12,283--(85%)#5--12,123--- 9,696-(-2,427)- UNI---16,324--(59%) #6---8,835---9,347-(+512)---USD---10,000--(93%)#7--10,097--- 8,395-(-1,702)- MSU---17,500--(48%) #8---7,919--- 6,762-(-1,157)-- SIU---15,000--(45%) #9---5,153--- 4,489-(-664)---- INS---12,764--(35%) #10--4,910--- 3,477-(-1,433)- WIU---16,368--(21%) *capacity taken from Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Valley_Football_Conference |
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 9, 2018 10:36:31 GMT -6
^^ SDSU has recorded much larger figures for the regular season, but took a hit based on playoff home games (they are part of the official numbers)
biggest attendance increases:
YSU (+1,764)
ILS (+1,284)
USD (+512)
UND (+484)
biggest attendance drops:
UNI (-2,427)
SDSU (-1,759)
MSU (-1,702)
WIU (-1,433)
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 9, 2018 10:40:52 GMT -6
Most Full Stadiums:
NDSU 96%
USD 93% (or 150%)
ILS 85%
UND 85%
Most Empty Stadiums:
WIU 21%
INS 35%
SIU 45%
MSU 48%
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Post by Yote 53 on Feb 9, 2018 11:42:44 GMT -6
So I guess we could say that SDSU plays games in an almost half empty stadium while USD plays in front of a near capacity crowd.
Yeah, yeah, I know, the Great Cow Pasture is a bigger stadium, but there is something to be said for playing in front of an intimate, electric environment, even if it is smaller.
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Post by sdyotefan on Feb 9, 2018 12:50:42 GMT -6
Thanks kiyoat for doing all the number crunching!! Very interesting!! I nominate you to be our official statistician!!!
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