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Post by Yotes on Dec 17, 2017 11:05:43 GMT -6
I'll admit I didn't really care if SDSU won or lost (just indifferent to their FB team, I guess). That said, the idea that this wasn't the year the stars were aligned is ridiculous. And they still got embarrassed. They had upsets in their bracket to allow for an extra home game against a lousy team, they didn't have to go through Fargo, and other than dings to Goedert, none of their key players suffered major/season-ending injuries. JMU & NDSU have each lost 3 or 4 key players. They believe they belong in the conversation with NDSU/JMU/others with routine legit shot, even though, as CF mentioned earlier, their playoff experience has been atrocious. My take is that if they want to keep saying they are really a top-5 type team, they deserve to be made fun of relentlessly like the Bison fans make fun of SHSU on AGS. There is simply nothing to back up a claim that they are a top power. Let's take a look at their playoff history: SDSU has 0 wins over seeded teams in the playoffs. They have lost all 6 tries, by an average of 21 points. SDSU has 2 road playoff wins, both coming against Big Sky teams in the first round. They have had 9 total road games. The 7 losses came by an average of 19 points. When they do get home playoff games, no one ever bothers to show up. SDSU has now hosted 4 playoff games with an average attendance of 5905 per game. They have won the 4 games but UNI this year was the only real challenging team to visit. You just can't get thoroughly embarrassed in the playoffs on a routine basis and still claim to be a real contender for a national title. Mock anyone who thinks they are.
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Post by aldewitt on Dec 17, 2017 12:09:31 GMT -6
Right now, based on the round robin it’s SDSU 2-0, NDSU 1-1, USD 0-2. As a tie breaker, if UND had been in with the others it would have been USD 1-2, UND 0-3 as we clearly saw this year. I can’t remember exactly but didn’t UND & USD move up after the SUs?
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 17, 2017 14:32:15 GMT -6
I know the Jacks didn't have any signature playoff wins but I had no idea that they hadn't ever beaten a seeded team. There is no question that their performance in the playoffs does not match what they have done in the regular season. One of their problems is that the have one or two head scratching losses each year and that typically ends up causing their season to end in Missoula or Fargo. That doesn't happen to the Bison and that is why they usually play at home and usually end up in Frisco.
There is no question that the Bison are helped greatly by their dome field advantage that they have. They are built to not need it but it is a big helper to them.
Them getting blown out at James Madison does help keep their egos in check for sure.
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 17, 2017 21:41:30 GMT -6
I guess I see this a little different. Always happy to see the Jacks lose, but the truth is they were playing on Saturday and we weren't. Simple as that.
Now, I get where you are all coming from, your sick of hearing from Jacks fans about how great they are, how superior they are to USD when they haven't done squat. I get that.
SDSU's only claim to fame is they have the words Dakota & State in their name and they moved up the same time as the other Dakota State school. The more popular, more successful one. For some reason people associate the schools with each other and say their names in the same breath as if they are equals. They aren't even close to being equals.
SDSU is the ultimate gravy training gold digger when it comes to their relationship with NDSU.
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Post by dave on Dec 18, 2017 6:44:58 GMT -6
I guess I see this a little different. Always happy to see the Jacks lose, but the truth is they were playing on Saturday and we weren't. Simple as that. Now, I get where you are all coming from, your sick of hearing from Jacks fans about how great they are, how superior they are to USD when they haven't done squat. I get that. SDSU's only claim to fame is they have the words Dakota & State in their name and they moved up the same time as the other Dakota State school. The more popular, more successful one. For some reason people associate the schools with each other and say their names in the same breath as if they are equals. They aren't even close to being equals. SDSU is the ultimate gravy training gold digger when it comes to their relationship with NDSU.[/b] So what does that make USD when it comes to their relationship with SDSU.
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Post by gopheryote on Dec 18, 2017 6:51:20 GMT -6
I guess I see this a little different. Always happy to see the Jacks lose, but the truth is they were playing on Saturday and we weren't. Simple as that. Now, I get where you are all coming from, your sick of hearing from Jacks fans about how great they are, how superior they are to USD when they haven't done squat. I get that. SDSU's only claim to fame is they have the words Dakota & State in their name and they moved up the same time as the other Dakota State school. The more popular, more successful one. For some reason people associate the schools with each other and say their names in the same breath as if they are equals. They aren't even close to being equals. SDSU is the ultimate gravy training gold digger when it comes to their relationship with NDSU.[/b] So what does that make USD when it comes to their relationship with SDSU.[/quote] Indifferent? Completely unrelated? Uncoupled? Frustrated? Zero % of USD's perceived success or lack thereof is connected to SDSU.
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 18, 2017 11:11:59 GMT -6
I guess I see this a little different. Always happy to see the Jacks lose, but the truth is they were playing on Saturday and we weren't. Simple as that. Now, I get where you are all coming from, your sick of hearing from Jacks fans about how great they are, how superior they are to USD when they haven't done squat. I get that. SDSU's only claim to fame is they have the words Dakota & State in their name and they moved up the same time as the other Dakota State school. The more popular, more successful one. For some reason people associate the schools with each other and say their names in the same breath as if they are equals. They aren't even close to being equals. SDSU is the ultimate gravy training gold digger when it comes to their relationship with NDSU.[/b] So what does that make USD when it comes to their relationship with SDSU.[/quote] Umm, absolutely nothing. Nobody has us attached to the hip with you guys. We aren't even attached at the hip with UND. Shoot, if any school forged their own path and created their own opportunities it is USD. Case in point, the way we leveraged ourselves into the MVFC. We had two offers in hand and choices to make because of the way we handled that situation. Yeah, State fans will say they got us in. B.S. Anything State did was out of a sense of self-preservation. If USD went to the BSC with UND you could have kissed the Summit goodbye. It would have collapsed.
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Post by jacksfan29 on Dec 18, 2017 11:54:16 GMT -6
[/b] So what does that make USD when it comes to their relationship with SDSU.[/quote] Umm, absolutely nothing. Nobody has us attached to the hip with you guys. We aren't even attached at the hip with UND. Shoot, if any school forged their own path and created their own opportunities it is USD. Case in point, the way we leveraged ourselves into the MVFC. We had two offers in hand and choices to make because of the way we handled that situation. Yeah, State fans will say they got us in. B.S. Anything State did was out of a sense of self-preservation. If USD went to the BSC with UND you could have kissed the Summit goodbye. It would have collapsed. [/quote] How many posts are in this thread about SDSU? How many posts were there on SDSUfans when USD got beaten by a team NDSU could have put 80 on? USD fans are funny folks. But hey, we lost, bad, in the semis while USD lost 5 of 7 to end the year? And still have not finished above .500 in league play? And in 2018, SDSU will again be top 3 in the league while USD will have little to fall back on. Streveler was your team. Everyone knew it, everyone stated it, they year ended just like most thought it would. Once the going got tough, the lack of talent became evident. The MVFC invite? Sorry, you got in for one reason and one reason only. SDSU and NDSU needed USD to stick to their agreement and join the Summit. If not for the Summit, both of us would have wished you well and sent you packing so you could spend 30% of your athletic budget on travel. Both schools would have been fine watching you fall apart just like we watched UND fall apart. Do you honestly believe the rest of the MVFC gave a crap out the great USD? At that point, and yet today, your athletic department is an afterthought to most. Enjoy BB season. We will. Once we again celebrate our Men, and Women attending another NCAA tourney. And once again, the Summit RPI is resting on the success of SDSU. Good stuff.
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Dec 18, 2017 12:14:08 GMT -6
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Post by Yotes on Dec 18, 2017 12:14:08 GMT -6
Yes, we are funny people for discussing the topic of this thread. We are also funny people for then focusing on the most embarrassing defeat imaginable.
But it's totally natural to bring up your basketball teams. Most sensitive fans ever.
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Post by usdtator on Dec 18, 2017 12:43:45 GMT -6
And in 2018, SDSU will again be top 3 in the league while USD will have little to fall back on. A little math for you... 2015-2017 TC + (DG + JW) = best teams SDSU will see in a long time (#notgoodenoughthough #crampgate #JMUhumiliation #10turnovers) 2018 TC - (DG + JW) = TC exposed as average QB at best (#playoffbubbleteam #bunnyfansworstinMVFC #goaway)
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Post by elcoyote on Dec 18, 2017 12:43:47 GMT -6
[/b] So what does that make USD when it comes to their relationship with SDSU.[/quote] Umm, absolutely nothing. Nobody has us attached to the hip with you guys. We aren't even attached at the hip with UND. Shoot, if any school forged their own path and created their own opportunities it is USD. Case in point, the way we leveraged ourselves into the MVFC. We had two offers in hand and choices to make because of the way we handled that situation. Yeah, State fans will say they got us in. B.S. Anything State did was out of a sense of self-preservation. If USD went to the BSC with UND you could have kissed the Summit goodbye. It would have collapsed. [/quote] How many posts are in this thread about SDSU? How many posts were there on SDSUfans when USD got beaten by a team NDSU could have put 80 on? USD fans are funny folks. But hey, we lost, bad, in the semis while USD lost 5 of 7 to end the year? And still have not finished above .500 in league play? And in 2018, SDSU will again be top 3 in the league while USD will have little to fall back on. Streveler was your team. Everyone knew it, everyone stated it, they year ended just like most thought it would. Once the going got tough, the lack of talent became evident. The MVFC invite? Sorry, you got in for one reason and one reason only. SDSU and NDSU needed USD to stick to their agreement and join the Summit. If not for the Summit, both of us would have wished you well and sent you packing so you could spend 30% of your athletic budget on travel. Both schools would have been fine watching you fall apart just like we watched UND fall apart. Do you honestly believe the rest of the MVFC gave a crap out the great USD? At that point, and yet today, your athletic department is an afterthought to most. Enjoy BB season. We will. Once we again celebrate our Men, and Women attending another NCAA tourney. And once again, the Summit RPI is resting on the success of SDSU. Good stuff.[/quote] It's amazing how delusional you pricks are. Top three in football next year? We have nothing to fall back on? Whatever keeps your delusions of grandeur alive. Time will tell, but I'm confident we'll be just fine and I would never go over on that Orwellian circle jerk you call a forum to talk about it. Just go away. You're a no lifer with a huge inferiority complex whose only self esteem comes from attaching yourself to the accomplishments of others.
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Post by yote14 on Dec 18, 2017 14:47:41 GMT -6
We need to give them a couple weeks to lash out at every other fan base after the most embarrassing loss in the history of the FCS playoffs. #10turnovers
Jacksfan29 is right, They will be top 3 forever just like their fans claimed they were a shoe in for the Natty this year.
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 18, 2017 14:48:32 GMT -6
He can't even get the topic right. We were discussing how SDSU had gravy trained on NDSUs success. He says what about USD gravy training on SDSU, of course could provide no examples, just went back to banging on USD.
I provide an example of how USD forged it's own path (knowing full well SDSU people try to claim that they got us in the MVFC).
You think if USD would have went to the BSC we would have fell apart due to travel? Well, I'll tell you this, the BSC would have been way better than SDSUs position, with no conference. The Summit would have tanked and the SUs would have been left trying to reform the Great West 2.0. The MVFC would have suffered too as the end game for the BSC was to break apart the Summit/MVFC and take the parts it wanted to create a western FCS super conference.
I would think instead of coming here with insults he would just thank us for saving the Summit, and the MVFC to an extent, then gone on about his business.
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Post by gopheryote on Dec 18, 2017 17:14:47 GMT -6
Fortunately the British have a solution for our childish rabbit friends:
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 18, 2017 17:56:47 GMT -6
This thread actually doesn't have anything to do with USD. We know the Coyotes haven't had the greatest recent success in football but this thread is irrelevant to that. This thread is about SDSU and their playoff futility. The Jacks have had plenty of chances to shown their might in the playoff but instead go crawl into their rabbit hole when they actually play a good team. They don't just lose but they get blown out by good teams. No wins against seeded teams is no wins against seeded teams no matter how you slice it. Because of that FACT and yes that is a FACT and not a subjective argument the Jacks are not a true national championship contender because those types of teams win big games now and then when it comes to the playoffs.
This years Coyote team despite their faults could have done everything the Jacks did in the playoffs. I know they would have beaten UNI and New Hampshire at home and they could have done it without faking cramps.
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