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Post by easmus on Jul 3, 2018 8:53:52 GMT -6
Would they divvy more to the winning school because the victor gets the spoils? I’m ok if they do.
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Post by gorabbits on Jul 3, 2018 12:36:13 GMT -6
Would they divvy more to the winning school because the victor gets the spoils? I’m ok if they do. I think you may be correct. In addition, the NCAA provides a large number of other forms of support. See the link below. These include grants for special programs, support for athletic programs and I think the amount varies depending upon the number of sports a school sponsors. etc. This category would also include support for travel to championship events. Your track programs would have earned some in this area as would have your football team this last year and women's basketball a couple years back. www.ncaa.org/about/where-does-money-goSo it would be surprising if the total was identical from one school to another.
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Post by newtousd33 on Jul 8, 2018 9:46:55 GMT -6
If you look at the BOR financial reports and compare FY 16 to 17 for SDSU you will see a jump in gate receipts from 2.7 million to 4.3, my guess the majority of that increase is coming from the new football stadium, mainly the premium paid for the premium seating. Regarding the difference in NCAA payouts IIRC the NCAA pays the shares for men's basketball out over something like seven years, (I can't remember that exact number of years). You don't start receiving shares until you are tournament eligible, so you guys are at something like year five of eligibility so in a couple of years you'll be at a full share, I think, I could be completely wrong on that. The other reason for the discrepancy may be due to our NCAA baseball appearance a few years back, or our football playoff games, but once again I don't know if there is an NCAA payout in either of those sports. The MBB Tournament is the only NCAA event that makes enough money to have disbursement payments. Each year's payout is disbursed over 6 years, but payments overlap. The key point here is that the disbursements go to conferences, not individual schools. Each conference has full control over how they distribute to member schools. Some divvy it equally, some don't. The Summit obviously doesn't. I'd be curious to see the reason. I believe the NCAA does divvy money based on number of scholarships awarded. So State benefits from having more sports and therefore more students on scholarships but obviously incurs more expenses for operating more sports as well.
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Post by gopheryote on Jul 14, 2018 7:53:03 GMT -6
For posterity, here is the link to Zimmer's article www.argusleader.com/story/blogs/mattzimmer/2018/07/12/usa-today-report-north-dakota-state-south-dakota-state-summit-league-revenue/777622002/Two quick things jumped out when comparing to SDSU - first, it is pretty amazing that ticket revenues tripled from 2015 to 2017 given that MBB/WBB attendance was basically flat and FB avg attendance when from around 13K to around 14K (per usdcoyotesports.proboards.com/post/43114 ). That could just be how they roll up suites/premium seats/corp purchases, but somehow or another 3x money without anywhere near 3x attendance is impressive. Second, I didn't realize USD received $1.6 million in student fees compared to $2.4 million at SDSU. I was under the impression that USD had a huge student fee stipend and SDSU had either literally zero or at least near zero. Learned something new (and not really important).
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Post by yotebewithyou on Jul 14, 2018 19:16:32 GMT -6
For posterity, here is the link to Zimmer's article www.argusleader.com/story/blogs/mattzimmer/2018/07/12/usa-today-report-north-dakota-state-south-dakota-state-summit-league-revenue/777622002/Two quick things jumped out when comparing to SDSU - first, it is pretty amazing that ticket revenues tripled from 2015 to 2017 given that MBB/WBB attendance was basically flat and FB avg attendance when from around 13K to around 14K (per usdcoyotesports.proboards.com/post/43114 ). That could just be how they roll up suites/premium seats/corp purchases, but somehow or another 3x money without anywhere near 3x attendance is impressive. Second, I didn't realize USD received $1.6 million in student fees compared to $2.4 million at SDSU. I was under the impression that USD had a huge student fee stipend and SDSU had either literally zero or at least near zero. Learned something new (and not really important). The student fee thing has to be a typo, right? SDSU fans have always jabbed us with the student fee thing. Are they really just that uninformed?
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Post by elcoyote on Jul 14, 2018 22:05:34 GMT -6
I noticed that fee thing too and I really don't understand how that is possible if everything is how the state people claim it is. I also didn't buy how their revenues tripled. No way they bring in five times the attendance revenue. There has to be some creative bookkeeping or differences in some accounting procedures, not that I care or even want to understand any of that. That's the kind of stuff that makes my eyeballs bleed.
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