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Post by elcoyote on Apr 26, 2019 21:54:01 GMT -6
Indiana State should be a solid opponent next season. There sure seems to be a lot optimism from their fan base which goes to reason. Offensively most of the starters are back so they should be able to put up the points and their QB is excellent. Defensively I'm not so sure. Did a little digging and it seems they lose the heart, both tackles, MLB and both safeties from a unit that wasn't anything special. As Easmus pointed out, they don't play NDSU and they had a D2 on the schedule last season which they won't have this year. They also won a lot of squeakers, but lost a few too. I think they'll probably be capable of beating about anyone but also losing to anyone. I guess you could say this about most teams in the MVFC next season.
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Post by aldewitt on May 2, 2019 5:29:31 GMT -6
Winning the squeakers is often a sign of an emerging team. They are learning to win. With their own improved coaching staff losing players is a great opportunity for improvement with better recruits. I checked their schedule. No D2s and no NDSU. They open at Kansas. That could be interesting and even without the GAM I think they could win that one. They come to Vermillion October 5 for a 2PM game. www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/282/indiana-state-sycamores
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Post by easmus on May 2, 2019 8:28:40 GMT -6
Winning the squeakers is often a sign of an emerging team. They are learning to win. With their own improved coaching staff losing players is a great opportunity for improvement with better recruits. I checked their schedule. No D2s and no NDSU. They open at Kansas. That could be interesting and even without the GAM I think they could win that one. They come to Vermillion October 5 for a 2PM game. www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/282/indiana-state-sycamoresDakota Day.
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Post by gorabbits on May 15, 2019 12:05:04 GMT -6
Jacks have 7 home games this year. The Drake game was just moved from Des Moines to Brookings.
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Post by elcoyote on May 15, 2019 15:33:46 GMT -6
Jacks have 7 home games this year. The Drake game was just moved from Des Moines to Brookings. Are you still only playing eleven games or did they get a twelfth game scheduled?
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Post by gorabbits on May 15, 2019 17:50:19 GMT -6
We have 12 games. The out of conference are Minnesota, Long Island (new to FCS) Drake and Southern Utah. The season starts at Minnesota and then there are 4 four home games in a row.nThe fans are basically getting a 7th game free as ticket prices were already set and season tickets sold before the change in the site for th 7th game.The deadline for renewing season passes was in March I think.
The schedules are set through 22. In 20 we have out of conference with Nebraska, Butler and Dixie State, in 21, Colorado State, Dixie State and Delaware State and in 22, Iowa, UC Davis and Butler. There are 6 home games every year after this year's 7. All gams are DI counter games
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Post by Yotes on May 15, 2019 19:14:31 GMT -6
My God state should be ashamed of their scheduling. Long Island, Delaware State, Drake, Butler twice, Dixie State twice. That's 7 guaranteed blowouts in 4 years. God forbid I mention the past.
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Post by yoteforever on May 16, 2019 6:37:12 GMT -6
My God state should be ashamed of their scheduling. Long Island, Delaware State, Drake, Butler twice, Dixie State twice. That's 7 guaranteed blowouts in 4 years. God forbid I mention the past. As a fan or former player I would not be happy with this scheduling. My guess is the rational behind it is they are “counters” but yet “cupcakes”. This topic of conversation is going on at the higher levels also. I’m not sure how the selection committee breaks down records when choosing teams for playoffs. In defense of SDSU, you could argue it’s genius because the games are counters and they likely get a W. But the opposite side of that argument is ticket sales. People do not want to pay for Dixie State or their equivalent. That’s a decision their AD and Stigs had to make together is my guess. I also think it’s an indication of what they possible think the direction they might be going in on future teams. I would like to see our conference commissioner collude with commissioners of pier leagues such as Big Sky and develop a framework of home and homes between our schools. Ex pls this year we are playing 2 Big Sky teams. That’s awesome. I think games coordinated by the heads of our respective leagues is something that should be considered. And not just the Big Sky. But teams like Chattanooga, Maine, New Hampshire, etc. Also the southern schools as well. It’s to everyone’s advantage, fans included, to be playing piers. Everyone go play their money game, most likely get beat, then see where we’re at amongst our piers. But I agree with YOTES, that is an embarrassing schedule. As an AD, it would be hard to defend other than the “genius argument” which is weak in my opinion, but nonetheless an argument.
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Post by Yote 53 on May 16, 2019 8:16:17 GMT -6
My God state should be ashamed of their scheduling. Long Island, Delaware State, Drake, Butler twice, Dixie State twice. That's 7 guaranteed blowouts in 4 years. God forbid I mention the past. That schedule has quite a few garbage body bag games. The irony is I advocated for USD to schedule like that on this board a year ago. Why? Because you can schedule your way into the playoffs with a mediocre MVFC team. The conference is so competitive that you can prove yourself by going 4-4 or 5-3 and winning your OOC body bag games. I just looked at USDs past and future schedules, we've played Drake a couple of times, but then again so has Iowa State, and we have Houston Baptist scheduled this season (a pretty bad Southland conference team), but other than those games we've strictly scheduled legitimate opponents OOC, either FBS games or Big Sky opponents. This year we play Montana, Oklahoma, Houston Baptist, and Northern Colorado. Two Big Sky opponents (and freaking Oklahoma) offset the Houston Baptist game, I can live with that. I will give USD credit, we've always consistently scheduled legit D1 games once we got through the transition and got into the MVFC.
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Post by GoYotes on May 16, 2019 9:09:11 GMT -6
I agree with Yote53. SDSU's scheduling format has worked out pretty well for them. USD currently doesn't draw big enough crowds to buy home games and instead has to rely on a lot of home and home arrangements for the non conference schedule. SDSU draws much larger crowds than USD, especially during the non conference schedule, and can afford to buy more body bag home games. Their fan base doesn't seem to care about the qualify of the competition and perhaps enjoys the body bag games more, as based on crowd numbers for the last couple of years:
2018 - Sept 8 - Montana St - 14,614; Sept 15 - Arkansas Pine Bluff - 14,526; Oct 6 - Indiana St - 10,318; Oct 13 Hobo Days - Youngstown - 14,537; Nov 3 - Missouri St - 5,869; Nov 17 - USD - 8,517 & 12/1 Playoffs - 3,042.
2017 - Aug 31 - Duquesne - 12,218; Sept 16 - Drake - 15,806; Oct 7 - Southern Ill - 12,891; Oct 14 Hobo Days - 14,347; Nov 4 - NDSU - 18,130; Nov 11 - Ill State - 9,458; Dec 2 Playoffs - UNI - 7,518 & Dec 9 Playoffs - New Hampshire - 5,583.
The SDSU fans appear to enjoy September nice weather games, irregardless of the competition, more than games later in the season as the weather turns colder. I am damn glad the Yotes play in the DakotaDome where we can enjoy games in comfort for the entire season.
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Post by gorabbits on May 16, 2019 9:49:20 GMT -6
A portion of the scheduling philosophy is that SDSU has committed to its fans to have 6 home games every year. With 8 conference games (4 home) and 1 FBS game on the road each year that only leaves two more games which both need to be at home in an 11 game season. That limits us in the number of home and home series we can schedule except in 12 game seasons. The increased revenue is certainly a part of the reason as well as the games tend to draw well regardless of who the opponent is.
I did a quick look at the Sagarin strength of schedule (SOS) rankings for last year and only one team outside of the Missouri Valley Conference (Idaho) had a stronger SOS than SDSU. The extra ordinary strength of the MVFC means the selection committee can never look down on the SOS of any MVFC team regardless of who they play in the non-conference part of the schedule especially if they also play an FBS team.
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Post by Yote 53 on May 16, 2019 10:57:57 GMT -6
Exactly. That's why I think the best scheduling strategy for USD is 8 MVFC, 1 FBS, Home/Home arrangement with BSC, 1 FCS paid for home game. A strategy we could put in practice over the next few years as we have the FBS games set and a home/home arrangement with N Arizona, just need to fill in that paid game.
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Post by wrj on May 16, 2019 11:33:12 GMT -6
Along with coyote fans, I expect continued improvement from the coyotes. Two questions come to mind. The first, will getting a home and home schedule against a quality FCS OOC team get more difficult? The second, will coyote fans start asking for a sixth home game every year?
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Post by yoteforever on May 16, 2019 15:23:52 GMT -6
Along with coyote fans, I expect continued improvement from the coyotes. Two questions come to mind. The first, will getting a home and home schedule against a quality FCS OOC team get more difficult? The second, will coyote fans start asking for a sixth home game every year? My best guess is that in years with 11 game schedule we will play 5 one year...6 the next. I’m of the opinion we aren’t going to schedule down in order to get the 6th game. I’d be irate if Year in and year out we played Cupcake State or Patsy University. That’s just me. I get the argument of getting to so many wins to make the playoffs but I personally want to see us play pier league schools. If we go 4-4 in the Valley but beat New Hampshire 37-20 and they win their league, then that makes a statement to the selection committee. However if we lose 37-20 then that also makes a statement. I want to go into the playoffs knowing we have a legitimate shot at winning the whole enchilada. I don’t want to make it then have Anybody State thump us in first round. By scheduling up in the preseason that gets us ready for postseason. I won’t be satisfied until we compete for both Valley titles and national titles. They pretty much go hand in hand anyway. So in years with 12 games...yes I expect 6. We are who we are as is SDSU. The only way they get 6 every year is by buying the cupcake. I get it I just don’t agree with it.
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Post by aldewitt on May 17, 2019 4:38:46 GMT -6
Here’s a look at 11 teams that didn’t make the playoffs last season but may have a chance this season: herosports.com/fcs/football-2019-potential-playoff-teams-shsu-unh-bzbzillinois State, Indiana State and UND were the MVFC mentions. The article says Indiana was a playoff team except they scheduled a D2 and lost out. Weaker scheduling is fine. Its hard to fill out a schedule. Its obvious in FCS however that a D2 can be the kiss of death when it comes to the playoffs.
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