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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Oct 30, 2019 14:29:33 GMT -6
One thing we haven’t really seen is what Plitzuweit recruits are going to look like in this system. I'm hopeful that Macy Guebert might be that elite shooter that could fill some of the void after this season. I know it will be hard for freshmen to get minutes this year with the depth they have, but I'd really like to see what she can do. Maddie Krull might just jump into the PG role as a freshman, too. So we would have our own "Macy and Maddie", so to speak. From the sound of it (Coach P interviews), We are likely to see basically the same players this year as last, with Sjerven, M. Arens, Korngable, and Bonar all getting more minutes. Hard for freshmen to get in there. Next year will be a new-look team. Sjerven, Frederick, Duffy, Lamb, Arens and McKeever are locks to play big minutes ... everybody else is a bit of a question mark I think. We’ll see but I think the depth might be a bit overstated ... if a frosh can play they should be able to carve out at least some role even this year.
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Post by kiyoat on Oct 30, 2019 15:30:50 GMT -6
OK, good stuff. And since we are cornering you guys (cityleage and coyote glory), and peppering you with questions, here's another angle:
Our two or three games vs the Jacks may once again be League-deciding. What do you guys/gals (anyone can answer) think of the Jacks this year? My thoughts:
1. You can't lose players like Macy and Maddie and not take a step back. Especially because they played an out-sized role in minutes and points. They were featured, and rightly so.
2. Selland and Larson are the obvious players to pick up the scoring slack, but they are both forwards, or at least stretch 4s. Who will emerge at the Summit-critical and mid-major-critical guard spots?
3. The Jacks literally have nine post players on their roster. They can't all be on the floor at the same time. Promising Soph Burckhard and Promising Frosh Theisen are both forwards. I can't help but think there is some imbalance. AJ likes to play a couple of dominant post players, but at some point you are going to need some quickness and arc shooting, right?
4. Irwin and Rylie C-J will no doubt be starting guards. Probably with C-J as Point. Neither one seems to me like an all-conference player, but I could be way off.
5. Maybe I am being too literal with the "forward-guard" labels. Both Selland and Larson can shoot the 3. Theisen might come in and just take it over as a small forward. Who knows.
In conclusion: They always find ways of reloading, but to me, someone should have already emerged at guard for this Jacks team to be a dominant one.
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Oct 30, 2019 15:56:21 GMT -6
You can't lose arguably the greatest player in conference history and the greatest shooter in conference history in the same offseason and not take a step (or two or three) back.
Selland will have a big year and produce big numbers but you're still talking about replacing 32 points per game and I would argue that in terms of impact buckets, the ones that swing momentum at the end of a shot clock, etc., it's even more than that. Now Selland has to slide into the No. 1 option from No. 3 and Larson simply isn't an offensive creator. She's very, very good at what she does but you're not going to give her the ball and get out of the way.
Just the floor spacing and attention defenses had to pay to Miller and Guebert first and foremost is going to be a huge adjustment for the Jacks ... and that's before you even get to what I talked about before. It's almost impossible to overstate how important the confidence a team takes from knowing there's a Miller and Guebert out there with them to bail them out in crunch time is. It will be interesting to see how/if that affects the Jacks mentally.
I'm not saying they won't be competitive but you don't just replace players like that. In some cases, losing a leading scorer or two simply provides more opportunity for everybody else, but I think in the case of Miller and Guebert you were talking about players/planets on the universe of the floor who simply shifted gravity a lot more than people may realize.
And that's without even going into the standard they set and I'm sure made their teammates live up to every day in practice, games, etc. The missing tangibles are massive ... and the intangibles will be too.
But I think that the biggest place they'll miss them is the freedom the other players will play with. Pressure ramps up when all of a sudden the two clutch players you've been relying on for so long aren't there to hit big shots for you and the extra shots you're taking mean a whole lot more.
Somebody has to start taking the shots Miller and Guebert made for so many years. And it doesn't take too many misses in those situations before everybody starts thinking about it a little bit.
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Oct 30, 2019 16:18:41 GMT -6
TLDR; Miller and Guebert hit 155 3-pointers last season. The rest of the team made 117.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Oct 30, 2019 16:28:30 GMT -6
The biggest difference with those players was there clutch gene. How many times did Macy take over games at the end or Madi make a crazy 3 in crunch time. State will be very good, the difference will be if someone can step up in those moments.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Oct 30, 2019 16:29:33 GMT -6
The overlooked aspect of AA's game was her FT% which was ungodly high and her ability to get to the line at the end of games.
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Post by kiyoat on Oct 30, 2019 16:55:06 GMT -6
The overlooked aspect of AA's game was her FT% which was ungodly high and her ability to get to the line at the end of games. McKeever was really good at drawing fouls, she also shot 90.0% from the line. Just below AA's 91.1 Monica and Duffy shot FT in the high 80s, and Liv Korngable was 14 for 14 (too small a sample). I know what you mean, though. She just always found a way to win.
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Post by gopheryote on Oct 31, 2019 5:35:39 GMT -6
OK then. Anyone able to verify?
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Post by GoYotes on Oct 31, 2019 7:43:39 GMT -6
The Gophers are indeed ranked. #23 in the AP preseason poll and #17 in the ESPN preseason poll.
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Post by gopheryote on Oct 31, 2019 8:04:10 GMT -6
The Gophers are indeed ranked. #23 in the AP preseason poll and #17 in the ESPN preseason poll. Excellent. But I meant 'can anyone verify that Jay actually noted the tweet took place.'
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Post by kiyoat on Oct 31, 2019 8:04:48 GMT -6
That's awesome, if true! I've seen a lot of leaks from so-called "secret" scrimmages this year from multiple teams. Kinda removes the incentive for large programs to stick their necks out and schedule these, when things leak. I know reporters have to run with stories, but it would actually be better if things were kept under wraps in some cases.
With that having been said, i'm actually not that surprised.
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Oct 31, 2019 15:24:03 GMT -6
It's what I alluded to earlier in the thread. I heard it was more like 30.
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Oct 31, 2019 15:25:01 GMT -6
And this was after they got beat in a similar scrimmage last season ... so they weren't caught off guard.
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Post by kiyoat on Oct 31, 2019 15:50:28 GMT -6
We should at least give Whalen and the Gophers credit for scheduling these scrimmages with us, fully knowing what they are getting into. They are trying to expose weaknesses and get better.
Contrast that with Fennelly and Iowa State, who reneged on another home-and-home agreement with us in 2019-2020 after we beat them in Vermillion. I've now heard that from multiple sources. Pretty weak sauce, like their schedule. Take note that Fennelly and the Cyclones have played loads of regional mid-majors, but has never scheduled the Jacks...
Different programs have different scheduling philosophies. Being a strong mid-major will get us in the door with some teams, and get us pushed out the door with others. I have a feeling that common non-con opponents with the Jacks might be happening more and more. Works for me. They have been scheduling multiple top-10 schools recently.
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Post by hoopsmom on Nov 3, 2019 18:37:53 GMT -6
So excited for game time in 1 1/2 days!! This is going to be a fun season!
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