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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 21, 2011 16:48:59 GMT -6
John Austin is to Kelly Higgins as Ed Meierkort is to Joel Nielson
We still do not know who is to David Sayler. I say a damn good D1 FCS MVFC hired coach.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 21, 2011 16:52:54 GMT -6
Meierkort is on the radio right now talking up his accomplishments. It's almost like he is making a statement to keep his job. He says the Coyotes are .500 since the transition. No mention of all the non D1 games that turned out to be wins. I wonder what the record is in D1 games only.
If no one else beats me to it I will post the FCS only games record since the transition start.
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Post by jman1985 on Nov 21, 2011 18:38:43 GMT -6
if my math is correct: USD's record in Division I games since making the move is 10-23 overall
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Post by jackl on Nov 21, 2011 20:07:03 GMT -6
if my math is correct: USD's record in Division I games since making the move is 10-23 overall Yep,and 9-17 on FCS games
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Post by coyotega on Nov 21, 2011 20:12:14 GMT -6
Until we can do multiyear contracts we have no fair prospect of recruiting away a successful coach from a good FCS or D2 program. And, Meierkort's profile is good as we will do for a D3 guy, and he has done pretty well overall in my opinion. The need for multiyear contracts should be obvious to any serious football fan, and it needs to be Sayler's and Abbott's top priority. Otherwise, you will lose every good coach immediately upon a multiyear offer from elsewhere and that breaks the momentum of a program also. UNI, NDS and other contemporaries give coaches (and the recruited players) the security of knowing that someone is tied in for a set number of years. We need to be able to do the same.
Here's a question? If Meierkort beats Cal Poly and UND, do you think we have to worry about his contract? I think with losses to only Wis, Air Force and Ill St, going 8-3, he becomes a hot property and ends up with a multiyear deal at a Western Ill or the like. And maybe that would have worked well for all, I don't know.
Now, I am irate that we lost those games. In business, if you have the same breakdown twice in a month, someone goes. But, I think it was inexperience that did not know how to adjust to the other team's half time adjustments. It was the young coaches, but Meierkort hired these guys knowing how green they were, so it is on him. I believe you learn from your mistakes. So assistants who have some years on them, and some brains too, and have made a bunch of mistakes are usually a better bet than some three or four year guys in my opinion. It is going to cost a little more money to get experienced assistants but we are big boys now. And we are going to have to get a little more astute in knowing that the fatigue from busing kids all over the country is not a good way to prepare for out of town games.
Also, Sayler has never hired or fired a football coach, so I really don't know if he has the close counsel needed to make a good decision on that. I think he needs to grow a bit. He is not like Nielsen who knows football cold, and could pull a trigger after one year, and immediately get the program going right. David is plenty smart - his strong suit - so I hope he is relying on some folks who know the game better than most of us, Yoteforever excluded from us lesser folks.
One possibility for the multiyear contract is for the Howling Pack to operate external from the U, raise its money and keep it separate, and for that organization to offer any coach (including Ed) a multiyear deal for media related functions, i.e. TV and radio shows. This is the feature that pumps up the contracts of most D1 coaches with other endorsement money as well. Independently, the U would then want to contract with the Howling Pack to manage its media promotions. This is a bit complicated but not as much as buying a piece of commercial real estate. I think it is an important element to recruit and keep good coaches.
And on Nick Saban, his retreat home is close to mine (in geography only, not size) and though intense, his kids make up for his social shortcomings more than a little. But on the affability scale, he is right at the midpoint between Ed Meierkort and Dave Boots, and maybe just a little closer to Ed.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 21, 2011 21:37:49 GMT -6
I will say this much. If Meierkort never coached at USD and USD was in the process of hiring a head coach his resume (including what he did at USD if that makes any sense) would not be close to good enough to win out against the candidates that would be available. He would simply not stack up. He is unproved as a D1 coach. Or if you want to say proven than he is proven to be a very mediocre coach.
We need to set our sights high because without aiming high accomplishing great feats will not be possible.
Regardless of your opinion it's good that this topic and the North Dakota game have brought out alot of good discussion. We truley need to keep this up and not let things fall off so much after football simmers down.
I will say this much. When we get discussions going on this board we have alot of intelligence in our fanbase. I personally think our discussions are more interesting than you will find on the SDSU board. They talk in more quantity. We talk in more quality. Just my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2011 21:45:06 GMT -6
I will say this much. If Meierkort never coached at USD and USD was in the process of hiring a head coach his resume (including what he did at USD if that makes any sense) would not be close to good enough to win out against the candidates that would be available. He would simply not stack up. He is unproved as a D1 coach. Or if you want to say proven than he is proven to be a very mediocre coach. We need to set our sights high because without aiming high accomplishing great feats will not be possible. Regardless of your opinion it's good that this topic and the North Dakota game have brought out alot of good discussion. We truley need to keep this up and not let things fall off so much after football simmers down. I will say this much. When we get discussions going on this board we have alot of intelligence in our fanbase. I personally think our discussions are more interesting than you will find on the SDSU board. They talk in more quantity. We talk in more quality. Just my opinion. You kidding me? I'm assuming you haven't seen this stuff then?! sdsufans.com/board/showthread.php?11444-Big-Win-for-USD/page8
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 21, 2011 22:31:26 GMT -6
I can tell you one thing that is pretty much fact. The SDSU fans that come and post over here are treated much better than the USD fans that post over there. Isn't it ironic that the SDSU fans like to talk about the atmosphere in Vermillion being bad during the rivalry or the USD fans being raunchy but that isn't the case when it comes to message boards. I am going to leave it right here as this is definate topic drift that is no longer needed.
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Post by 88grad on Nov 22, 2011 8:49:35 GMT -6
I believe that Ed has had to make do with the coaches available to him because of the budget. If we could afford to hire more experienced coordinators I honestly think we would. I have no idea what our OC and DCs make but I'm sure it's a lot less than their counterparts at UNI (for instance). I believe everyone knows just how little education is valued in this state (I think I just threw up in my mouth) so I'm afraid USD will not be able to hire the kind of experience we're looking for.
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Post by chuck on Nov 22, 2011 9:25:20 GMT -6
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 22, 2011 10:14:49 GMT -6
Informed? Probably Objective? Hardly
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 22, 2011 10:16:01 GMT -6
I thought maybe Jeremy would give an opinion on what he thought needed to change. Thanks for bringing it up that there is a problem, we all know that. What's the solution? Or did I just miss the second part of the article?
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Post by HadleyCoyote on Nov 22, 2011 10:18:10 GMT -6
I like where he was going, but seems like he stopped writing long before the article was finished. I kept looking for a "click here for the rest of the article" button, but don't see it.
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Post by jman1985 on Nov 22, 2011 10:31:35 GMT -6
i'm sure he could go on for 5,000 words on that, as we all could. Definitely a sense of frustration around the people who follow the Yotes.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 22, 2011 13:30:36 GMT -6
Informed? Probably Objective? Hardly Sorry, but it is objective. Let's be honest here, the road record is the black eye on the football program. This has been going in since the D-2 days and it still isn't fixed. You know what fixes it, a new coach that won't allow it...just saying.
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