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Post by usdguy99 on Apr 14, 2014 17:26:53 GMT -6
Coach Williams is not being retained by Coach Smith.
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Post by coyotega on Apr 14, 2014 18:47:25 GMT -6
Overall, I'm OK with that. A head coach has to be able to pick his assistants. Hopefully, a lesser role can be found for him. Coach Williams is not being retained by Coach Smith.
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Post by yoteforever on Apr 14, 2014 20:40:09 GMT -6
Go read the thread on SDSUFans.com and you will note that the few who chimed in (go ahead, count the number of actual posters) were focused on the lack of news and any formal confirmation that Hansen was hired by USD. I think that's a fair point and I commented on it. I think there is one Jackrabbit fan who is riled up but he's more riled up about having stated that there was no formal confirmation of the hiring of an assistant coach and then he got jabbed a little (perhaps deserved) by a couple of USD posters. So, one riled guy doesn't tell the story of a group of people (if it did, where does that leave posters on this board when, for example, Coyotefan tips over?) For the most part I agree JackJD. But there are two points I want go raise based on my experiences on your board. First, there are now a few posters "jockeying for position" about how once again SDSU cones to the rescue of ill 'ol USD. That's funny. Secondly, over the years, how many times did I hear or read that no one posted anything about USD because we didn't matter, and that the only thing we were worried about was what SDSU was doing. Or if we beat SDSU, that's our Super Bowl. So it is somewhat fair to raise the point over 225 posts have been made dedicated to USD. A little irony is all. Lastly, there are quite a few posters that have zero sense of humor. I make a post as a smart a$$ and many fly off the handle. I actually like going over to discuss stuff, but I also like to laugh and I'm not sure it's allowed over there?
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Post by jackjd on Apr 14, 2014 22:26:10 GMT -6
I suppose the jockeying for position is just the stuff one sees on message boards: trying to figure out some new and supposedly humorous (at least, they hope, to other fans of the same school) angle for teasing the other school's fans.
I think since USD joined the Summit League and MVFC, they're highly relevant and matter a great deal. Prior to that, the Yotes weren't particularly relevant to what SDSU was trying to do (nor was SDSU particularly relevant to USD's course). You'll read the comments of many SDSU fans who believe that USD is part of the equation for getting past the one-bid league for NCAA basketball tourney appearances -- I thought we were there this year in women's basketball but I guess we were only close. If both USD's and SDSU's women play basketball like they're capable next season, watch for two SL schools to make it to the NCAA Tourney.
And the 225 posts of which you write, were focused on news, or lack thereof, of Austin Hansen, a great SDSU basketball player, and not USD.
I agree there are posters who have no sense of humor. They exist in every fan base and the thread on SDSU's board about Coach Hansen provided a platform for proof that some Jackrabbit fans, on certain topics, apparently lose their sense of humor. You've seen the same happen with USD fans, NDSU fans, Iowa fans (geez, no kidding on Iowa fans), etc.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 14, 2014 22:46:25 GMT -6
Go read the thread on SDSUFans.com and you will note that the few who chimed in (go ahead, count the number of actual posters) were focused on the lack of news and any formal confirmation that Hansen was hired by USD. I think that's a fair point and I commented on it. I think there is one Jackrabbit fan who is riled up but he's more riled up about having stated that there was no formal confirmation of the hiring of an assistant coach and then he got jabbed a little (perhaps deserved) by a couple of USD posters. So, one riled guy doesn't tell the story of a group of people (if it did, where does that leave posters on this board when, for example, Coyotefan tips over?) For the most part I agree JackJD. But there are two points I want go raise based on my experiences on your board. First, there are now a few posters "jockeying for position" about how once again SDSU cones to the rescue of ill 'ol USD. That's funny. Secondly, over the years, how many times did I hear or read that no one posted anything about USD because we didn't matter, and that the only thing we were worried about was what SDSU was doing. Or if we beat SDSU, that's our Super Bowl. So it is somewhat fair to raise the point over 225 posts have been made dedicated to USD. A little irony is all. Lastly, there are quite a few posters that have zero sense of humor. I make a post as a smart a$$ and many fly off the handle. I actually like going over to discuss stuff, but I also like to laugh and I'm not sure it's allowed over there? I can't stand to read that message board. The amount of arrogance is disgusting. So few are remotely level-headed and interested in a discussion of the competition, and there is just so much hatred towards the opposition. It's appalling. I'm pretty new in my experience with their fanbase, perhaps this is a reflection of the fair weather fans they've recently accumulated, I just know it's not worth going over there. It's like Bisonville on a way smaller scale. We're making noise though, and they've taken notice. Lots of talk about us. It's pretty funny, considering so many say it's not a rivalry.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 14, 2014 23:08:35 GMT -6
I like our coaching staff we have coming in. Cutting ties with some loyal guys stinks, but we will be upgrading. We have prior D-1 experience in three coaches, and the fourth guy has had great success, while also serving as the stinking AD, at Williston State. I'm not sure we had anyone with any prior D-1 experience on the former staff. Now that Smith has his staff, it's time to get some kids signed!
Too bad that Williams won't have a spot on the staff. He seems qualified enough, but I am all for letting Smith pick whoever he wants. It would be a bit of a step backwards to go out and get an attractive candidate, then pick his assistants for him. This was bound to happen to Lloyd eventually, he wasn't going to be able to travel schools with his wife and find a coaching spot on the men's team forever.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 0:27:21 GMT -6
For the most part I agree JackJD. But there are two points I want go raise based on my experiences on your board. First, there are now a few posters "jockeying for position" about how once again SDSU cones to the rescue of ill 'ol USD. That's funny. Secondly, over the years, how many times did I hear or read that no one posted anything about USD because we didn't matter, and that the only thing we were worried about was what SDSU was doing. Or if we beat SDSU, that's our Super Bowl. So it is somewhat fair to raise the point over 225 posts have been made dedicated to USD. A little irony is all. Lastly, there are quite a few posters that have zero sense of humor. I make a post as a smart a$$ and many fly off the handle. I actually like going over to discuss stuff, but I also like to laugh and I'm not sure it's allowed over there? I can't stand to read that message board. The amount of arrogance is disgusting. So few are remotely level-headed and interested in a discussion of the competition, and there is just so much hatred towards the opposition. It's appalling. I'm pretty new in my experience with their fanbase, perhaps this is a reflection of the fair weather fans they've recently accumulated, I just know it's not worth going over there. It's like Bisonville on a way smaller scale. We're making noise though, and they've taken notice. Lots of talk about us. It's pretty funny, considering so many say it's not a rivalry. lol at the bold. Every fan base is going to show some type of arrogance. It just the way it is. Believe it or not but this message has shown signs of it at times. You can quit flattery yourself by saying how much talk about USD is on the SDSU board. Its all under 1 thread about a former SDSU standout and assistant coach taking a position at a RIVAL school with no media coverage or credible proof until it was actually announced. A USD fan also brought the topic up of Austin Hansen joining the yotes. The only noise USD has made in the major sports is in women's basketball and that was just a squeak. What noise has USD made in football or men's basketball? I also disagree with you on SDSU fans not thinking the USD games aren't a rivalry. Look at the attendance numbers, that should give you enough proof. Some may not feel that USD isn't the top rival since USD didn't make the transition with SDSU like NDSU did. And if that offends you that some SDSU fans don't look at USD as the top rival so be it.
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Post by 94grad on Apr 15, 2014 1:51:26 GMT -6
Two losing seasons in twenty five years does not equal a program that needs turning around. Sorry your last comment was il thought out OK let me rephrase "it took a Jackrabbit for USD to find success a the D-1 level" Not sure what it will take for USD to "find success a the D-1 level". Hopefully it doesn't take 6 years of losing. www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=942136Can't tell if that link pasted quite right. I was referring to another Summit League team's D1 transition period: SDSU Men's Basketball 2004-05 10-18 Scott Nagy First year of Division I play 2005-06 9-20 Scott Nagy 2006-07 6-24 Scott Nagy 2007-08 8-21 Scott Nagy First Season in The Summit League. Final year of D-I transition 2008-09 13-20 Scott Nagy 2009-10 14-16 Scott Nagy
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Post by canislatrans on Apr 15, 2014 4:36:36 GMT -6
You have to give credit to the "Dave ADs", the Coyotes Coaching staff for the big 3 sports is quite impressive. That is a foundation to build on, can't wait to see the continued success!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 6:21:45 GMT -6
Who is Lloyd Williams? not a frequent reader of this board.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 6:23:18 GMT -6
You have to give credit to the "Dave ADs", the Coyotes Coaching staff for the big 3 sports is quite impressive. That is a foundation to build on, can't wait to see the continued success! The quote is correct, but it left off the winning seasons. Also, who was calling SDSU NUTS FOR GOING D1? Seems that kind of talk came from Vermillion.
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Post by obc on Apr 15, 2014 6:31:16 GMT -6
Who is Lloyd Williams? not a frequent reader of this board. Lloyd was an assistant coach at USD and came to USD with his wife Amy Williams (current USD head women's basketball coach) He was a popular assistant and many I have spoken to were hoping he would be kept on the staff. I can't blame Craig Smith for wanting to build his own staff though. He will ultimately shoulder the credit or blame for the results so he needs to do it the way he believes is best.
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Post by Yote 53 on Apr 15, 2014 7:56:37 GMT -6
For the most part I agree JackJD. But there are two points I want go raise based on my experiences on your board. First, there are now a few posters "jockeying for position" about how once again SDSU cones to the rescue of ill 'ol USD. That's funny. Secondly, over the years, how many times did I hear or read that no one posted anything about USD because we didn't matter, and that the only thing we were worried about was what SDSU was doing. Or if we beat SDSU, that's our Super Bowl. So it is somewhat fair to raise the point over 225 posts have been made dedicated to USD. A little irony is all. Lastly, there are quite a few posters that have zero sense of humor. I make a post as a smart a$$ and many fly off the handle. I actually like going over to discuss stuff, but I also like to laugh and I'm not sure it's allowed over there? I can't stand to read that message board. The amount of arrogance is disgusting. So few are remotely level-headed and interested in a discussion of the competition, and there is just so much hatred towards the opposition. It's appalling. I'm pretty new in my experience with their fanbase, perhaps this is a reflection of the fair weather fans they've recently accumulated, I just know it's not worth going over there. It's like Bisonville on a way smaller scale. We're making noise though, and they've taken notice. Lots of talk about us. It's pretty funny, considering so many say it's not a rivalry. +1 and totally agree with Yotes on this except for one point. I don't mind going to Bisonville. The posters there have always treated me pretty decent and have had a pretty cool attitude towards USD. I guess I don't get too upset because any sort of arrogance that comes from NDSU fans was rightfully earned on the field or court. When it comes from SDSU fans it is hollow because they haven't really accomplished anything other than in women's basketball. Their basketball program was junk then they struck lightning in a bottle with Nate Wolters. Their football program hasn't won the conference, they have made the playoffs but have peed down their leg when they got there. Oh, and they lose to D3 schools. Other than going D1 first they really haven't accomplished anything that USD can't (or won't) exceed.
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Post by azsod73 on Apr 15, 2014 10:48:41 GMT -6
Who is Lloyd Williams? not a frequent reader of this board. Lloyd was an assistant coach at USD and came to USD with his wife Amy Williams (current USD head women's basketball coach) He was a popular assistant and many I have spoken to were hoping he would be kept on the staff. I can't blame Craig Smith for wanting to build his own staff though. He will ultimately shoulder the credit or blame for the results so he needs to do it the way he believes is best. In the current weekly P&D video chat, Jeremy Hoeck states that Lloyd Williams is being retained.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 15, 2014 13:19:26 GMT -6
I can't stand to read that message board. The amount of arrogance is disgusting. So few are remotely level-headed and interested in a discussion of the competition, and there is just so much hatred towards the opposition. It's appalling. I'm pretty new in my experience with their fanbase, perhaps this is a reflection of the fair weather fans they've recently accumulated, I just know it's not worth going over there. It's like Bisonville on a way smaller scale. We're making noise though, and they've taken notice. Lots of talk about us. It's pretty funny, considering so many say it's not a rivalry. lol at the bold. Every fan base is going to show some type of arrogance. It just the way it is. Believe it or not but this message has shown signs of it at times. You can quit flattery yourself by saying how much talk about USD is on the SDSU board. Its all under 1 thread about a former SDSU standout and assistant coach taking a position at a RIVAL school with no media coverage or credible proof until it was actually announced. A USD fan also brought the topic up of Austin Hansen joining the yotes. The only noise USD has made in the major sports is in women's basketball and that was just a squeak. What noise has USD made in football or men's basketball? I also disagree with you on SDSU fans not thinking the USD games aren't a rivalry. Look at the attendance numbers, that should give you enough proof. Some may not feel that USD isn't the top rival since USD didn't make the transition with SDSU like NDSU did. And if that offends you that some SDSU fans don't look at USD as the top rival so be it. If what we did in women's basketball was a squeak, what exactly makes you believe you've been roaring? Stomping you en route to the NCAA Tourney in our second year went unnoticed? We had to make the first D-1 hire in basketball in this state, and it was a splash hire. Now that splash hire has one of your former stars on the staff. If none of that is noise, then why is it attracting such attention? Not much talk about football right now, but that sport takes a long time to build. Give the 3-time national champion adequate time. Arrogance. Pure arrogance. I'm not surprised you jumped to dispute my statement, since I find you to be the epitome of who I was referring to. That place is full of blind hatred, no respect for any opponents. So few gracious winners, and even fewer gracious losers.
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