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Post by Yotes on Apr 15, 2014 13:53:03 GMT -6
Lloyd was an assistant coach at USD and came to USD with his wife Amy Williams (current USD head women's basketball coach) He was a popular assistant and many I have spoken to were hoping he would be kept on the staff. I can't blame Craig Smith for wanting to build his own staff though. He will ultimately shoulder the credit or blame for the results so he needs to do it the way he believes is best. In the current weekly P&D video chat, Jeremy Hoeck states that Lloyd Williams is being retained. Do we know in what capacity he will retained? We have our three assistants. Possibly director of basketball operations or player development?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 13:58:25 GMT -6
lol at the bold. Every fan base is going to show some type of arrogance. It just the way it is. Believe it or not but this message has shown signs of it at times. You can quit flattery yourself by saying how much talk about USD is on the SDSU board. Its all under 1 thread about a former SDSU standout and assistant coach taking a position at a RIVAL school with no media coverage or credible proof until it was actually announced. A USD fan also brought the topic up of Austin Hansen joining the yotes. The only noise USD has made in the major sports is in women's basketball and that was just a squeak. What noise has USD made in football or men's basketball? I also disagree with you on SDSU fans not thinking the USD games aren't a rivalry. Look at the attendance numbers, that should give you enough proof. Some may not feel that USD isn't the top rival since USD didn't make the transition with SDSU like NDSU did. And if that offends you that some SDSU fans don't look at USD as the top rival so be it. If what we did in women's basketball was a squeak, what exactly makes you believe you've been roaring? Stomping you en route to the NCAA Tourney in our second year went unnoticed? We had to make the first D-1 hire in basketball in this state, and it was a splash hire. Now that splash hire has one of your former stars on the staff. If none of that is noise, then why is it attracting such attention? Not much talk about football right now, but that sport takes a long time to build. Give the 3-time national champion adequate time. Arrogance. Pure arrogance. I'm not surprised you jumped to dispute my statement, since I find you to be the epitome of who I was referring to. That place is full of blind hatred, no respect for any opponents. So few gracious winners, and even fewer gracious losers. I think regular season titles and tournament titles speak for themselves. Sweeping USD during the regular season then shooting a blank in the semis was unfortunate for SDSU, but they made the best out of the situation and made the final 4 of the wnit. Craig Smith is an unproven head coach. Does he have potential to be great? Absolutely. As i said before, the talk is dealing with a Jackrabbit great. Is it a good hire? Yup. If USD hired a different assistant that didn't have a past like Hansens, there would be considerably less posts about it. As far as you finding my posts arrogant and disrespectful to opponents. That's your opinion. I find no posts or very few to be disrespectful that aren't in smack sections. Please give some examples of my posts over on the SDSU board that are "full of hatred, disrespectful, ect." Maybe you are taking things way out of context.
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Post by oldhare on Apr 15, 2014 15:31:20 GMT -6
Since this is the thread for Craig Smith; congratulations on what appears to be a solid hire for the basketball program. It will be even better when you get the new arena and start getting some quality home games OOC. The new arena may keep your home games in Vermillion which should help the program as well. It will also help the rest of the programs float a bit higher with all of the improvements of facility and improvements in coaching. As the MVFC is one of the better FCS football conferences, the Summit could become one of the better midmajor(I know midmajor is no longer politically correct) conferences as well.
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Post by azsod73 on Apr 16, 2014 15:55:12 GMT -6
Lloyd was an assistant coach at USD and came to USD with his wife Amy Williams (current USD head women's basketball coach) He was a popular assistant and many I have spoken to were hoping he would be kept on the staff. I can't blame Craig Smith for wanting to build his own staff though. He will ultimately shoulder the credit or blame for the results so he needs to do it the way he believes is best. In the current weekly P&D video chat, Jeremy Hoeck states that Lloyd Williams is being retained. In today's P&D sport chat, Jeremy isn't so sure Lloyd is being retained. Said he would be checking with Craig Smith for an answer.
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Post by mraugustana on Apr 16, 2014 21:42:58 GMT -6
I know this is the wrong topic of discussion for this thread, but since it's not worth creating its own thread either, I'll just chime in quick. As a relative outsider who visits both boards with semi-regularity, both fanbases have arrogant fans who think their program is the Duke of the Dakota region (or will be the Duke of the Dakota region soon) and both fanbases have fans who are reasonable and who appreciate outside, non-homer conversation points/discussions. Sort of the nature of message boards. You sign up to post on a message board because you enjoy online discussions. On a team-specific board, those discussions are generally going to be in favor of your team. Otherwise, why sign up in the first place? If everyone got on and discussed things in the style of an impartial news report, nobody would be on the message boards. Fans are passionate. As a result, if a fan from one team (for example, USD) jumps onto another team's board (for example, SDSU's), it makes sense that the majority of passionate, pro-SDSU fans aren't just going to nod in agreement at every post the USD fan makes--particularly if those posts are meant to incite emotion.
Anyway, I'm rambling. But the point is, discussing whose fans are more arrogant is silly. When it comes to message boards, both team's fans are arrogant--primarily as a result of their passion for their teams. Only the most passionate fans are going to spend their free time talking about their teams on an anonymous internet message board. Lukewarm fans don't care enough to spend their time with that kind of thing. I guarantee that even the lukewarm fans on these boards (in terms of posting frequency) are still more passionate than the average fan. As a result, those passionate fans are going to come off as arrogant, regardless of the reasons behind it. They care. A lot. Of course they're going to say and believe the best about their team (in most cases/situations). It's what passionate fans do.
Just my thoughts. As you can tell, I hate being left out of this D1 party as an Augie fan.
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Post by Yote 53 on Apr 17, 2014 7:35:09 GMT -6
I know this is the wrong topic of discussion for this thread, but since it's not worth creating its own thread either, I'll just chime in quick. As a relative outsider who visits both boards with semi-regularity, both fanbases have arrogant fans who think their program is the Duke of the Dakota region (or will be the Duke of the Dakota region soon) and both fanbases have fans who are reasonable and who appreciate outside, non-homer conversation points/discussions. Sort of the nature of message boards. You sign up to post on a message board because you enjoy online discussions. On a team-specific board, those discussions are generally going to be in favor of your team. Otherwise, why sign up in the first place? If everyone got on and discussed things in the style of an impartial news report, nobody would be on the message boards. Fans are passionate. As a result, if a fan from one team (for example, USD) jumps onto another team's board (for example, SDSU's), it makes sense that the majority of passionate, pro-SDSU fans aren't just going to nod in agreement at every post the USD fan makes--particularly if those posts are meant to incite emotion. Anyway, I'm rambling. But the point is, discussing whose fans are more arrogant is silly. When it comes to message boards, both team's fans are arrogant--primarily as a result of their passion for their teams. Only the most passionate fans are going to spend their free time talking about their teams on an anonymous internet message board. Lukewarm fans don't care enough to spend their time with that kind of thing. I guarantee that even the lukewarm fans on these boards (in terms of posting frequency) are still more passionate than the average fan. As a result, those passionate fans are going to come off as arrogant, regardless of the reasons behind it. They care. A lot. Of course they're going to say and believe the best about their team (in most cases/situations). It's what passionate fans do. Just my thoughts. As you can tell, I hate being left out of this D1 party as an Augie fan. Off topic but MrAugustana is right. The difference on this board is that when an SDSU poster comes here and posts his posts are allowed to stand without the threat of being banned and calling his post smack. Sandakotastate's post could easily be labeled as smackish and over at SDSUfans, if a USD poster made a post like that, it would be called smack and there would be a threat of a ban. Conversely, my last post in this thread was very smackish, and the SDSU board is full of pro-Jack posts just like it, but since I am a homer on this board (like SDSU fans are homers on theirs) the post would be allowed to stand without a word. Just the difference in the way the two boards are moderated and why I can't stand going over there.
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Post by jackjd on Apr 17, 2014 14:01:27 GMT -6
Each board seems to develop its own "culture" and I agree there are differences between the SDSU message board and this message board. At the same time, there are differences in opinions on how to characterize the differences in the board cultures. Personally, I visit a number of boards because news often hits the boards quickly and I like to follow a number of teams.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Sept 25, 2014 8:13:20 GMT -6
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Post by seayote on Feb 22, 2021 19:33:53 GMT -6
Good for him. He's done well at USU. I'm sure this has been in the works, but ironic that the extension comes on the heels of getting swept by Boise St.
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