Thoughts on a new coaching staff

[tman28]

Another perspective as i also fall into the casual Coyote fan who has been to the dome to watch games a few times in the last couple of years. I naturally root for the underdog and being a Sioux Falls kid have had plenty of family/friends graduate from the school (Dad, brother, cousin). Watching them on tv and keeping a close eye on recruits I wonder why they just cant seem to break out. Looking at their list of returners this year I assumed they would break out. Yote14 mad a good point that seems like something some fans are missing...... USD would be a contendr in the Big Sky but decided to be in the top conference in D1 FCS. I applaud USD for this as it actually makes me want the athletic programs to succeed even more!

[88grad]

Sorry this is turning into a bit of a thread drift, but I agree that I would rather be in the Valley regardless of our current success (or lack thereof). The geography of the Big Sky is just not good for creating rivalries (albeit UND) and ease of getting to an occasional away game. No, the Valley is where we belong - I just hope we can figure out whatever the heck it is that's keeping us from representing ourselves better!

[88grad]

Perhaps a crazy thought, but at least one that could spark a conversation - if we could bring Joe Glenn out of retirement to coach how 'bout Dave Triplett? Okay, Dave isn't alma mater but was a proven winner. How about an alum with fire in his belly - Jim Glowgoski? Not that any new coach needs to be "part of the family" but it's a conversation that needs to be had eventually.

[Coyote Fan]

It's very simple, just do a true national search for a new head coach with the best candidate getting the job, whether this coach would have USD ties or not. I truly believe that the right coaching staff can get this program to a much higher level which would equate to an upper level Valley program. All the assistants would need to go so the new coach could insert his own staff. Herbster is in a tough position but that is why he is now being paid full time AD money so he can make the right decisions.

Glen Caruso is now the first person that comes to mind when talking of USD ties. As far as an outside candidate I think alot of very qualified coaches would want this position. This position is more appealing than a Summit Coaching position and I think USD did real well with the Men's Basketball hire.

I do feel sorry for Glenn. When I hear him speak he seems very defeated like he needs to be put out of his misery from this job. I am now sensing that I am no longer on an island when I suggest that major change needs to be made.

[coyote70]

I see we just got swept by SDSU in a Swimming and Diving meet. Time to fire the coaches! Right coyotefan?.

[fightsd]

coyotefan - Joe is not going anywhere. He will get one more season. When the time comes that Joe does step away from the game, I agree we need to have a national search. Here's the problem I see with it. This program, now more than ever, needs some consistency. If we go and hire someone outside we are looking at a three year coach in our best scenario. If he wins, he is on to bigger and better things. If he loses, we are backing having this same exhausting discussion that rears its head every year. We need to hire another coyote. Someone that is truly committed to growing this program, not his personal career. Now, I don't know if that person is on our staff or not, but I think it needs to be considered.

I have the same concerns about the new basketball hire. Will he have a few winning seasons? I certainly hope so. But will he be a long term solution for the program? No he will not. I just hope all parties involved are on the same page.

[yote14]

The main problem we have right now is that we place too many past players and family members into coaching positions at USD and do not find quality caoches nationaly. I do not include Glenn in this statement as he has proven himself on the biggest stages before coming home.
I disagree with you fightsd if we hire someone under the thought that they may be too good and end up leaving in 3-5 years becuase they have had so much success building a program at USD and that is a disqualifier for hiring them does not make sense. Instead we should place tons of ex quarterbacks and players in coaching positions that have never worked anywhere else and family members and friends of past alumni or coaches that have no proven track records because they will be passionate and stick around for longer is absurd. If that person has the type of success you are talking about they also will move one to bigger and better things becuase of that success regardless of their love for USD.
Get the best candidate period. If Coach Smith wins the next 5 conference titles and makes the NCAA tournament 5 years in a row and gets an offer from a bigger school we both benefit from that.
If we hire with the mindset that we want someone with past ties or someone that is going to stick around for 10 years we will get a candidate that more than likely is average at best and our teams will show that.
Hire the best and if he leaves because of so much success you try to find another guy just like him. Worst case senerio then you hire some average guy thats going to stick around for 10 years.

[Yote 53]

Even a top notch football coach who turns things around will stick around for more than 3-4 years. Shoot, Bohl did things at NDSU that have never been done before at the FCS level and he was there for quite a few years before moving on to Wyoming.

I think having a coach that would be that successful is a good problem to have. After that person leaves there will a long list of quality coaches lining up to do the same thing, we would just need to pick the right one.

[fightsd]

Yote14. I think you misunderstood part of my last post. I know where your going with this. I do not condone the practice of hiring family, friends, players, etc on the coaching staff merely out of loyalty. I do not think we should consider Wesley for the position when it opens up. We can put that to rest right now. Same goes for Tim Triplett having a job on the staff. Obviously unqualified or inept personnel should not be tolerated on the staff. Period.

The main point I was trying to make is that my biggest fear is that we end up in the same situation 3 or 4 years from now. Just at the point in a coach's tenure to where the writing is on the wall that he is leaving or being let go. Having the whole program in flux every 3 years is not good for the program. When I think of the successful teams in the MVFC, I don't think programs that restaff after a few seasons. Look at NDSU or (God forbid I even say it) SDSU. With Bohl and Stig, not all of their seasons were great, but given enough time to build a program and a way of doing things, they rose to the top. Now I am in no way suggesting that Joe Glenn should stick around and coach forever like Paterno, he is about done. But we need to consider the long term success of the program. There is a difference between being great and being mediocre. Picking a guy that only sees the coyotes as a stepping stone will not build a perennially strong program. If the head coach is not invested in the future of the program, even after his tenure, we will never rise above mediocrity. If we ever want to rise to the upper half of the league, we need someone at the helm that shares the same vision.

[usdcoyotes]

Nov 10, 2014 11:18:41 GMT -6 yote14 said:

The main problem we have right now is that we place too many past players and family members into coaching positions at USD and do not find quality caoches nationaly. I do not include Glenn in this statement as he has proven himself on the biggest stages before coming home.
I disagree with you fightsd if we hire someone under the thought that they may be too good and end up leaving in 3-5 years becuase they have had so much success building a program at USD and that is a disqualifier for hiring them does not make sense. Instead we should place tons of ex quarterbacks and players in coaching positions that have never worked anywhere else and family members and friends of past alumni or coaches that have no proven track records because they will be passionate and stick around for longer is absurd. If that person has the type of success you are talking about they also will move one to bigger and better things becuase of that success regardless of their love for USD.
Get the best candidate period. If Coach Smith wins the next 5 conference titles and makes the NCAA tournament 5 years in a row and gets an offer from a bigger school we both benefit from that.
If we hire with the mindset that we want someone with past ties or someone that is going to stick around for 10 years we will get a candidate that more than likely is average at best and our teams will show that.
Hire the best and if he leaves because of so much success you try to find another guy just like him. Worst case senerio then you hire some average guy thats going to stick around for 10 years.

I hope Smith wins 5 in a row, doubt it but let's hope! We have had 3 coaches in 3 years for men's basketball and Dave boots was here for 20+ years and will never be matched. He won several titles and had very good teams! I think we under estimated the mark he made for our basketball program and school. He won a title in 2010 and and had 2 tough years and some of you wanted a new coach! Everyone wants to win NOW but it takes time and football will get it right! When Joe Glenn decides to step down he will, he's not going anywhere! National search or not, some people like to stay in house and others like to go outside. Both have failed and both have been successful all over the country. Statistics don't show either way!