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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 12:47:39 GMT -6
1. I would like to know who thought SDSU was going to make a "deep" run in the NCAA tournament when the Jacks played Michigan. There might have been some people thinking that they could win that game but that's about it.
2. What does NDSU getting votes in the FBS have to do with SDSU fans? I'm not making any connections there. NDSU won 33 straight games. Those votes that they received were earned. (They are no longer receiving votes btw)
3. Back in 2009 when SDSU was ranked in the AP Poll. SDSU won the conference tournament so it technically wasn't an at-large.
4. Charlie Creme disagrees with you. He had SDSU as one the "first four out" after SDSU lost in the semis last year. That buzz was created by him.
5. That missed layup was before Lingle missed her layup. After Harrington missed her layup Eide got fouled and made both of her fts, then SDSU played the foul game being up 3 and making sure USD wouldn't have a chance to get a good look at a 3. (Play-by-Play is still listed on ESPN)
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Post by yote14 on Nov 11, 2014 13:14:16 GMT -6
The votes NDSU recieved were not earned. Unless they won 33 straight in FBS and I missed it. And beating a 2-7 Iowa State is not enough to think they can compete against big 12 and B1G teams week in and week out.
Like I said a missed layup is what has kept USD from making the NCAA tournament the first 2 years they were eligable just like SDSU making it all the years leading up to USD being eligable. There is also more competition in the Summit league now then when the bunnies were first there. In 2009 the combined record of the Summit league after the top 2 teams was 88-150. They had an awesome year that year do not get me wrong. but name the last time anyone from the Summit league recieved an at large bid in either the mens or womens side?
You must not live in South Dakota or read the Argus Leader because thats all I heard leading up to the tournament is how Wolters was the ticket to a run in the tournament.
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Post by jackjd on Nov 11, 2014 14:15:38 GMT -6
Like I said a missed layup is what has kept USD from making the NCAA tournament the first 2 years they were eligable just like SDSU making it all the years leading up to USD being eligable. There is also more competition in the Summit league now then when the bunnies were first there. In 2009 the combined record of the Summit league after the top 2 teams was 88-150. They had an awesome year that year do not get me wrong. but name the last time anyone from the Summit league recieved an at large bid in either the mens or womens side? You must not live in South Dakota or read the Argus Leader because thats all I heard leading up to the tournament is how Wolters was the ticket to a run in the tournament. More competition in Summit League: For the women, the loss of Oakland and Oral Roberts may support the opposite conclusion. But, with Oral Roberts coming back and USD playing well under Coach Williams, I think the Summit League women may be as strong, and we may find this year, stronger, compared to before USD became eligible. But let's go with your claim that the conference is now stronger. I thought I was detecting a poster discounting SDSU winning the regular season...hmmm. For the men, I don't think the Summit overall average is as good as it was when Oakland and Oral Roberts were in and Ron Hunter coached IUPUI. I think the top three or four teams could play with the top three or four teams of a few years ago but the bottom part of the conference has been in the past couple or three years, weaker. Consistently getting an at-large bid in both men and women is a goal for the entire conference. And when we consistently get in two, then the goal should be getting in a third team. Getting Oral Roberts back should help the effort. USD and SDSU are committed to playing good men's and women's basketball. NDSU men should continue to be solid and perhaps the Bison will bring their women's program back from the dead. Curious about the shot against Nate Wolters. Guys like Wolters, no matter which team they're playing for, are good for the Summit League. I don't recall claims Wolters was the ticket to a run in the tourney but that kinda makes sense, doesn't it? |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 11, 2014 16:26:38 GMT -6
I absolutely hate these bickering matches.
SDSU put together an almost complete season last year that nearly garnered an at-large bid to the tourney, and USD pulled off a very impressive feat in Sioux Falls and got the top prize. Winning the regular season title requires months of putting your best effort on the court, and the conference tournament is always going to be crucial for any Summit team wanting to make the tourney. It's clear that if both SD teams put together a complete season in an ever improving Summit League we'll be a two-bid league, and it would be really cool if we had two teams from South Dakota playing in the NCAA Tournament in the same year. That would have been just the dream of a madman ten years ago, but here we are.
Season starts in three days, I know I'm ready to see what's actually on the court instead of reading and hearing nothing but talk.
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Post by canislatrans on Nov 11, 2014 19:06:30 GMT -6
WNIT > NCAA
Summit Conf. Title > NCAA (Summit Tourney Title)
Sour grapes, much?
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Nov 12, 2014 6:55:30 GMT -6
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Post by yote14 on Nov 12, 2014 10:38:53 GMT -6
WNIT > NCAA Summit Conf. Title > NCAA (Summit Tourney Title) Sour grapes, much? Since the WNIT is greater than the NCAA tourny the next time SDSU gets the automatic bid to the big dance they should be turning it down to go to the WNIT right? I guess I missed filling out my bracket for the WNIT/NIT last year and the coverage of all the games on TV. |
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Post by kioatee on Nov 12, 2014 12:12:57 GMT -6
Does anyone know if there is a link to watch media day in its entirety?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 12:35:41 GMT -6
WNIT > NCAA Summit Conf. Title > NCAA (Summit Tourney Title) Sour grapes, much? Since the WNIT is greater than the NCAA tourny the next time SDSU gets the automatic bid to the big dance they should be turning it down to go to the WNIT right? I guess I missed filling out my bracket for the WNIT/NIT last year and the coverage of all the games on TV. Honestly, everyone in the right state of mind knows that the NCAA is better than the WNIT. I just find it funny how some people think that USD women's basketball is high and mighty because USD made the NCAA tournament. A 7-7 conference record is nothing to be proud of. What if Contreras didn't make that 3 against WIU in the 1st round? There are no sour grapes. SDSU made the longest postseason run in Summit League history and played in front of 12K fans at UTEP. Not a bad consolation prize for not making the NCAA Tournament for the 1st time in school history. Good luck in the ooc portion. Looking forward to the upcoming season. |
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Post by jackjd on Nov 12, 2014 12:49:24 GMT -6
WNIT > NCAA Summit Conf. Title > NCAA (Summit Tourney Title) Sour grapes, much? Since the WNIT is greater than the NCAA tourny the next time SDSU gets the automatic bid to the big dance they should be turning it down to go to the WNIT right? I guess I missed filling out my bracket for the WNIT/NIT last year and the coverage of all the games on TV. Did someone actually make that claim? I know some feel that a deep run in the WNIT is a credible accomplishment compared to losing in the first round of the NCAA (SDSU has been in that position a few times) but I am not aware of anyone claiming the WNIT Tourney is greater than the NCAA Tourney. |
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Post by yotefan on Nov 12, 2014 13:15:28 GMT -6
sandakotastate's comment, "SDSU is going nowhere and will always be the class of women's basketball in the Dakotas," is where this thread was hijacked. If a USD fan typed something as provocative on the bunnyboard it'd start a riot. Then he writes above, "I just find it funny how some people think that USD women's basketball is high and mighty because USD made the NCAA tournament." Hello pot, this is kettle. Can we get this train back on the tracks please? I like Kioatee's question above about a link to the full media day, that would be nice to see.
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Post by jackjd on Nov 12, 2014 15:59:17 GMT -6
sandakotastate's comment, "SDSU is going nowhere and will always be the class of women's basketball in the Dakotas," is where this thread was hijacked. If a USD fan typed something as provocative on the bunnyboard it'd start a riot. Then he writes above, "I just find it funny how some people think that USD women's basketball is high and mighty because USD made the NCAA tournament." Hello pot, this is kettle. Can we get this train back on the tracks please? I like Kioatee's question above about a link to the full media day, that would be nice to see. I do not contest the quoted statement was provocative. I was just wondering where Yote14 got the WNIT > NCAA claim. I can see from other threads Yote14 has the tendency to exaggerate so I thought I would inquire. |
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Post by yotefan on Nov 12, 2014 20:29:28 GMT -6
I knew what you meant JD, I was more or less venting about the thread drift. While you're checking in, who is the Jacks projected starting line-up? I figure Biddle (sp) has to be in the mix and wasn't there a transfer guard from Wisconsin who coaches were high on too?
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Post by jackjd on Nov 12, 2014 21:56:00 GMT -6
The Wisconsin transfer is George Marshall. He started several games for the Badgers but then was hobbled with an injury and after that wasn't getting the playing time he wanted. He transferred in after first semester last year so is eligible at the end of first semester...mid December. He's projected to be a starter the moment he's eligible.
Coach Nagy remains high on Jake Bittle and he's a probable starter when the season gets going in earnest. But Nagy has pointed out that while he usually plays seven guys, this season he'll likely play nine guys a lot...the Jacks are young, talented, not quite as tall as last year but more athletic. I detect some optimism in Nagy's comments when in most years, he doesn't start the season expressing a lot of optimism. But I think the starting lineup will change every game in the early part of the season.
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Post by yotefan on Nov 13, 2014 7:11:46 GMT -6
I was impressed by Bittle last year. As a former Pierre Governor, I'm looking forward to watching Severyn play too. Hoping he does well as a Jack, with off games off course against the Yotes. =) I think the Summit League just like the MVFC, just keeps getting deeper and deeper every year and will overtake a lot of mid-major conferences in the near future.
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