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Post by lakesbison on Mar 2, 2015 10:31:30 GMT -6
the Defending champion will have to start this thread i guess #1 SDSU vs #8 Western Illinois #4 IPFW vs #5 South Dakota #2 NDSU vs #7 DENVER #3 Oral Roberts vs #6 IUPUI Someone on nerdville.com posted this: Chances to win Summit auto-bid: (based on Sagarin type rating of conference games and assumes neutral tournament site) SDSU 63% NDSU 13% IPFW..10% ORU.... 8% Denver 3% USD.... 2% IUPUI.. 1% WIU.. <1% The REAL question is, will I see some RED down there to offset the stupid blue bunny clothing ive seen dominate there the last 7 years? If you beat IPFW & SDSU you will drink free on me tuesday afternoon at bwws. Personally I think this whole thing is a mess, if NDSU wouldve beaten down ORU last thursday and entered #1 at 21-8 with momentum i wouldve said its theres to lose. Oh Well, win 3 games go dancing, its simple!
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Post by 91jack on Mar 2, 2015 12:34:49 GMT -6
the Defending champion will have to start this thread i guess #1 SDSU vs #8 Western Illinois #4 IPFW vs #5 South Dakota #2 NDSU vs #7 DENVER #3 Oral Roberts vs #6 IUPUI Someone on nerdville.com posted this: Chances to win Summit auto-bid: (based on Sagarin type rating of conference games and assumes neutral tournament site) SDSU 63% NDSU 13% IPFW..10% ORU.... 8% Denver 3% USD.... 2% IUPUI.. 1% WIU.. <1% The REAL question is, will I see some RED down there to offset the stupid blue bunny clothing ive seen dominate there the last 7 years? If you beat IPFW & SDSU you will drink free on me tuesday afternoon at bwws. Personally I think this whole thing is a mess, if NDSU wouldve beaten down ORU last thursday and entered #1 at 21-8 with momentum i wouldve said its theres to lose. Oh Well, win 3 games go dancing, its simple! I think that SDSU might be the favorite but it shouldn't be anywhere near 63%. There are several teams that have a good shot in this tournament. SDSU- They are the #1 seed and they are playing close to home. They should have the largest cheering section by quite a bit. NDSU- They did lose to Oral Roberts(I don't know how they lost by that much) but their three other loses came to SDSU, IPFW and USD and those three teams are in the other side of the bracket. IPFW- They are playing better as of late and they were the preseason favorite for a reason. USD- If they could play like they did against SDSU, they have a shot. It will be really tough shooting that good and keeping that intensity up three nights in a row. ORU- They do have to go through NDSU and a championship game but I like their side of the bracket much better than the other side. Denver- See ORU! I guess we will see how things shake out less than a week from now.
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Post by canislatrans on Mar 3, 2015 6:07:50 GMT -6
Coyotes are 3-3 against the three teams (FW, SDSU, NDSU) they would likely face if they were to win the SLT, and just drilled the best of those 3. I like their chances, certainly higher than 2%...
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Post by Yotes on Mar 3, 2015 7:32:40 GMT -6
Coyotes are 3-3 against the three teams (FW, SDSU, NDSU) they would likely face if they were to win the SLT, and just drilled the best of those 3. I like their chances, certainly higher than 2%... Those percentages are a load of garbage on every team except maybe WIU. I'd guess the DSUs probably bring a 30% chance each, and even that might be a bit lofty. The Summit is incredibly even this year. This tournament should be some entertaining basketball.
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Post by fightsd on Mar 3, 2015 7:45:36 GMT -6
I'm not gonna get hung up on percentages and odds. This year, more so than any in my recent memory, it is really up for grabs. Whoever shows up to play. Like mentioned above, if we can play like we did on Saturday, I don't see anyone beating us.
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Post by azsod73 on Mar 3, 2015 10:53:15 GMT -6
The Forum's Jeff Kolpack and WDAY-TV sports director Dom Izzo. - Handicapping the Summit: USD will win it Posted on March 3, 2015 by Jeff Kolpack It was about this time last year when the Summit League men’s basketball tournament looked to be NDSU’s to lose. The Bison had the Summit Player of the Year in Taylor Braun, South Dakota State no longer had Nate Wolters and the Bison had the veteran team with the veteran center (Marshall Bjorklund) and playmaking forward (TrayVonn Wright). The Bison also had a defensive stopper in forward Kory Brown, always an important role in any title-contending team. This year is one big muddled mixture. If there ever was a year when a lower seed could win the tournament, this would be it. The Bison are the No. 2 seed, but they went overtime in both regular season games with No. 7 Denver, their first round opponent Saturday. I think this tournament is going to blow up from the conventional way of higher seeds advancing. So here’s my prediction: First round: No. 1 SDSU over Western Illinois. No. 5 USD over No. 4 Fort Wayne. No. 2 NDSU over No. 7 Denver. No. 3 ORU over No. 6 IUPUI. Semifinals: No. 5 USD over No. 1 SDSU. No. 3 ORU over No. 2 NDSU. Title: No. 5 USD over No. 3 ORU. Reasoning: South Dakota is hot winning five of its last six including a convincing win over the Jackrabbits to close the regular season. The Coyotes have six players, six, who averaged double figures in scoring in Summit League games with Tyler Larson one of the top overall players in the league in scoring and rebounding. They’re a veteran team loaded with juniors and seniors, look out for this team. SDSU has one of its better defensive teams under Scott Nagy, but I’m not convinced there’s enough overall scoring to get through three games. Brown’s bad knee is not a good sign for the Bison. Like a shutdown corner in football, you need a defensive stopper in tournament time and if he’s not 100 percent, that’s pretty tough. Lawrence Alexander can carry a team in a weekend series, but to do it for three games may be asking too much. Oral Roberts is intriguing after bombing the Bison, but that may have been an emotionally-charged win as much as anything after one of its top players was suspended. Over three games, reality will set in for the Golden Eagles. Fort Wayne has a chance with center Steve Forbes, but the Mastodons are also coming in losers of two of their last three including to a very average Nebraska-Omaha team. - See more at: bisonmedia.areavoices.com/?p=92022#sthash.OPrYDRNB.dpuf
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Post by Yotes on Mar 3, 2015 12:32:43 GMT -6
Sounds good to me. I'll see you guys on Selection Sunday.
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Post by yoteforever on Mar 3, 2015 17:04:33 GMT -6
Old Lumber Company to see where we are going?
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Post by Yotes on Mar 3, 2015 18:00:24 GMT -6
I really enjoyed the selection show held at the MUC last year, but I'm all for going to OLC and having a brew during the announcement.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 3, 2015 23:12:04 GMT -6
How about all the underdogs win in the first round, than USD becomes the favorite. If not USD likes their red uniforms better than the whites anyway. They play better in them and will likely get a chance to wear them awhile longer. IPFW is good but is not unbeatable. They aren't even that hot anymore either losing 2 of their last 3 including at home to Omaha. If they can lose at home to the Mavericks they can lose to the Coyotes in Sioux Falls. I think the Yotes will play better in Sioux Falls than they have in most of their home games. It will obviously be key to body up on Forbes and try to not allow him to dominate inside. The Mastadons might have an advantage inside but I really like the USD guards and have a hard time believing that the Yotes will get beat in the backcourt.
If the Yotes get by IPFW which I will put the odds at 55% of that happening (and I don't care what the experts think) than they get the rematch with South Dakota State. The Jacks will obviously be favored but the game is not in Frost so the Jacks become much more ordinary and beatable. The Yotes certainly have confidence if that is the matchup.
If the Yotes pull off that upset as well I don't see them losing in the final and I don't care who the opponent is. It will be a red invasion of the arena Tuesday night if they get that far. The odds are long but I give the Yotes a punchers chance. Outside shooting teams can be hot and cold but the Yotes are definately capable of lighting it up and can play a little defense as well. The Coyote Women went to the big dance from the 4/5 slot last year so why not allow lightning to strike twice.
My pick for the first game is the Coyotes beat IPFW 71-65
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Post by Yotes on Mar 4, 2015 17:16:36 GMT -6
Jeremy Hoeck has predicted Denver over USD in the final. It obviously isn't the most likely outcome, but somehow not all that far fetched. Such an even league this year.
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Post by lakesbison on Mar 4, 2015 21:50:32 GMT -6
I think the final will be NDSU vs IPFW.
But if you USD beats IPFW, you will get all the NDSU fans to cheer for you (we helped ipfw last year beat sdsu)
NDSU vs USD final would be fun, you know why?? cuz it'd be a bunny turd's worst nightmare and I would hope that all of them stay home and we can play each other in front of like 2500 fans hahahaha.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 4, 2015 22:17:13 GMT -6
I am kind of surprised how little respect NDSU seems to be getting to be honest. They are co conference champs but it seems like they are kind of an afterthought in many prognosticators minds. NDSU has a nice bracket on their half with Denver, Oral Roberts and IUPUI with them. Denver is still over rated and Oral Roberts is an enigma. The Bison could almost be a bigger favorite than SDSU to make the final. I would definately rather play the Oral Roberts vs IUPUI winner than the USD vs IPFW winner if I were one of the top 2 seeds. NDSU hasn't always been dominant but they sure do know how to finish in close games down the stretch.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Mar 5, 2015 8:06:55 GMT -6
No disrespect to SDSU and NDSU intended, but I am scared to death of IPFW. USD has no answer to Forbes (at least that it has shown). He, alone, could take down USD. IPFW honestly concerns me more than the other Dakota schools.
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Post by canislatrans on Mar 5, 2015 8:43:09 GMT -6
I'm with you on that cuz, Forbes is like 19-23 against USD, you've got to think their game plan is to get him 23 shots in this Tournament game. It will be interesting to see Coach Smith's plan, do you use Hunter,ERob,Sparks and their 15 fouls and go after him, or do you let him get his 35 and focus on the perimeter players?
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