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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 25, 2015 21:46:43 GMT -6
I've found it very interesting reading everyone's take on Joe's replacement and the potential outcome for all of the assistants. I think in many ways, hiring a D1 football head coach has got to be more difficult than hiring almost anyone else on campus due to the interweaving of other staff members, supporters, players (both current and future), and even conference opponents. I'm going to throw a somewhat controversial name into the discussion and see where it goes: Todd Hoffner at Mankato. The guy knows how to recruit, maximize the talent that he has, knows how to win consistently, and despite the media attention that he got a few years back, still remained committed to his own team. The fact that he was the OC at USD for a year also gives him at least a little bit of an idea of what to expect in Vermillion doesn't hurt either. Honestly Todd Hoffner is not at all a controversial name in my book. He hasn't done anything to bring controversy to himself. Others may have brought up controversy associated with his name but he didn't bring that on himself. Hoffner has done a solid job at Minnesota State. For whatever the reason his name just doesn't spark a level of excitement in me but he has done a good job with the Mavericks. |
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Post by yotesfan1985 on Nov 25, 2015 22:18:49 GMT -6
I've found it very interesting reading everyone's take on Joe's replacement and the potential outcome for all of the assistants. I think in many ways, hiring a D1 football head coach has got to be more difficult than hiring almost anyone else on campus due to the interweaving of other staff members, supporters, players (both current and future), and even conference opponents. I'm going to throw a somewhat controversial name into the discussion and see where it goes: Todd Hoffner at Mankato. The guy knows how to recruit, maximize the talent that he has, knows how to win consistently, and despite the media attention that he got a few years back, still remained committed to his own team. The fact that he was the OC at USD for a year also gives him at least a little bit of an idea of what to expect in Vermillion doesn't hurt either. Honestly Todd Hoffner is not at all a controversial name in my book. He hasn't done anything to bring controversy to himself. Others may have brought up controversy associated with his name but he didn't bring that on himself. Hoffner has done a solid job at Minnesota State. For whatever the reason his name just doesn't spark a level of excitement in me but he has done a good job with the Mavericks. dosnt surprise me at all that you would mention Hoffner. He has no integrity and would take us back to the days of Mierkort. And I'm not referring to the child porn allegations Hell maybe he would recruit some guys that would get another IRS scam going. Shows how little you know that you would even mention his name |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 25, 2015 23:40:03 GMT -6
Honestly Todd Hoffner is not at all a controversial name in my book. He hasn't done anything to bring controversy to himself. Others may have brought up controversy associated with his name but he didn't bring that on himself. Hoffner has done a solid job at Minnesota State. For whatever the reason his name just doesn't spark a level of excitement in me but he has done a good job with the Mavericks. dosnt surprise me at all that you would mention Hoffner. He has no integrity and would take us back to the days of Mierkort. And I'm not referring to the child porn allegations Hell maybe he would recruit some guys that would get another IRS scam going. Shows how little you know that you would even mention his name I really don't know who you were referring to when bringing up his name but it wasn't me that originally brought up his name as I was just responding to the post. Hoffner has done a good enough job at Minnesota State that his name deserves to be mentioned. God forbid and be damned to hell for even mentioning his name. Are you insinuating that he had anything to do with that scam. I would be careful what you say about Hoffner. I haven't heard of any major problems coming out of Mankato and if there is it sure isn't affecting their success on the field. Jed Stugart whether you like him or not is one of the front runners and his team was annihilated by Minnesota State this year. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 26, 2015 0:06:18 GMT -6
Just a few thoughts on the hiring process that I hope are considered. This is kind of an extension of some of the questions that Yoteforver asked in a prior post. I hope whether it's Herbster, a hiring committee or a hiring firm that they have some sort of guideline to follow and I hope they ask and have answered some very tough questions. Not that the following is a bible or anything but just an example of things that should be considered by anyone that is involved in the hiring process.
1) When looking at a coaches experience look not only what he did but consider the circumstances around him that may have factored in. If he struggled was it because he had turnover at the coordinator's positions. Can his success be attributed to just himself or did he have people around him that really made or broke him. Were than any mitigating factors that affected his teams performance.
2) When looking for a candidate consider the history and college that he worked for. Is the college successful every year regardless of the coach. Did he turn around a program that has always struggled and has suddenly turned around since he came on board. Did he win at Western Baptist Southeastern University breaking a 146 game losing steak when he got there. Maybe he coached as an assistant at a program that he didn't necessarily change the culture that was already there.
3) Does the candidate have nothing but success in his 8 years of coaching experience and is he trending upward. Does the coach have some mild success for a long period of time and how is he trending. I know this was covered somewhat in an earlier post.
4) How does his success as a coordinator compare to his success as head coach. Did he dominate as an OC or DC? Did he dominate as a head coach where ever he coached. Did he have any rough patches during his tenure at his coaching position. Does he have more or less success as a head coach compared to when he was a coordinator.
5) Does his lack of experience at a D1 level hurt his chances to be good in the MVFC. Does his moderate success at the D1 level trump a candidate that was more dominant at a lower level program.
6) Does a coach have the background to be successful in the MVFC. If a coach doesn't have MVFC experience will his style fit in well with the MVFC.
7) Is it better to have a coach that is status quo for the MVFC and fit in with most other coaches in the MVFC. Does the coach have a style that may not be common in the MVFC and if so will that style translate to success in the MVFC. Do the Yotes go conservative or go with a shock and awe coach.
8) Do the Yotes go with the bigger name coach or maybe a diamond in the rough lesser known coach.
9) Do the Yotes go with a coach that is familiar with the midwest or is it ok to go outside the regional footprint and seriously consider candidates from all over the nation.
10) What is a coaches recruiting footprint. Should he be a master in the midwest region and go head to head against the other Valley teams for his recruits or should be be more widespread in his thinking and maybe pluck some talent from well outside the Valley region.
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Post by yotesfan1985 on Nov 26, 2015 0:34:30 GMT -6
I have come to the conclusion that cf is like the drunk guy in the room that just keeps babbling and the polite people nod their heads and try to ignore him
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 26, 2015 1:15:07 GMT -6
Jeff Turn seemed to be the one that had the scoop on Glenn's retiring but I hope USD he is nowhere close to this notion. Here is his tweet.
"Watch out for Bill Bleil as another name that may come up for the USD job. Was at ISU and now OC at Rhode Island. Has the USD connections"
When I looked at his body of work at Rhode Island it made me laugh a little and throw up in my mouth alot. Bleil was OC of a horrible offense and was part of a Rhode Island team that went 2-21 during his tenure. That is the farthest I am going with that one when it comes to research. Talk about a downward trend. I have no idea what hat Turn pulled his name out of but that is about the weakest candidate that has been brought up yet when it relates to the job. I cannot stand to listen to Turn as he is about as annoying as they come but come on JT at least do some research before you bring up realistic candidates. The first time I listened to him he was talking up the Jacks Men's basketball team about 2 or 3 years ago. He mentioned the game that they had in Vermillion and didn't even consider it a possibility that they might just lose the game as he assumed they would win. Of course the Coyotes won, go figure.
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Post by olifer on Nov 26, 2015 7:45:27 GMT -6
Honestly Todd Hoffner is not at all a controversial name in my book. He hasn't done anything to bring controversy to himself. Others may have brought up controversy associated with his name but he didn't bring that on himself. Hoffner has done a solid job at Minnesota State. For whatever the reason his name just doesn't spark a level of excitement in me but he has done a good job with the Mavericks. dosnt surprise me at all that you would mention Hoffner. He has no integrity and would take us back to the days of Mierkort. And I'm not referring to the child porn allegations Hell maybe he would recruit some guys that would get another IRS scam going. Shows how little you know that you would even mention his name I totally disagree with your short sighted assessment of Hoffner's character. While no coaching recruit is going to be the "perfect" match that Joe was, it's Dave Herbster's job to find balance with all of the applicants and ultimately hire the best overall candidate for the position. I think Hoffner has done a fantastic job with the Mavericks and even though I have no idea if he has any interest in the position at USD, I certainly think he would be worth giving serious consideration to. |
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Post by yotesfan1985 on Nov 26, 2015 8:01:47 GMT -6
dosnt surprise me at all that you would mention Hoffner. He has no integrity and would take us back to the days of Mierkort. And I'm not referring to the child porn allegations Hell maybe he would recruit some guys that would get another IRS scam going. Shows how little you know that you would even mention his name I totally disagree with your short sighted assessment of Hoffner's character. While no coaching recruit is going to be the "perfect" match that Joe was, it's Dave Herbster's job to find balance with all of the applicants and ultimately hire the best overall candidate for the position. I think Hoffner has done a fantastic job with the Mavericks and even though I have no idea if he has any interest in the position at USD, I certainly think he would be worth giving serious consideration to. I guess you might feel different if the guy flat out mislead you and flat out lied to you and you witnessed the other bridges he had burned in the coaching community for the same reasons. But then it dosnt matter because the people who will make the decision do know |
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 26, 2015 9:13:49 GMT -6
I think Hoffner is a moot point. Believe he just signed an extension with Mankato.
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Post by sd4life on Nov 26, 2015 11:25:05 GMT -6
My personal opinion is I don't want anybody who is tied to or associated with Sleazy Eddie.
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Post by 88grad on Nov 26, 2015 11:28:37 GMT -6
My personal opinion is I don't want anybody who is tied to or associated with Sleazy Eddie. Does that include Glenn Caruso? |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 26, 2015 12:22:17 GMT -6
No one was saying anything about Ed's character when his teams were kicking the crap out of anyone that came into the Dakotadome to challenge the Coyotes. I never had a problem with his character.
By the way Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Nov 27, 2015 11:25:36 GMT -6
I know it isn't the sexiest thing in the world, but I love Navy's double-wing option offense. Option football allows lesser talent to compete with greater talent. It might just be the appropriate offense for USD. I am in no way sold on it, but I think it is due more consideration then it is given in this day and age.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 27, 2015 12:32:39 GMT -6
I know it isn't the sexiest thing in the world, but I love Navy's double-wing option offense. Option football allows lesser talent to compete with greater talent. It might just be the appropriate offense for USD. I am in no way sold on it, but I think it is due more consideration then it is given in this day and age. Is that an insinuation that the Coyotes have or will have lesser talent than their opponents? I am not for or against any one style of offense as long as the Coyotes aren't the kind of team that has little flexibility to their offense. If they run a double wing option offense but don't have a passing game to unleash when they need it than I am against that type of offense. |
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Nov 27, 2015 12:40:58 GMT -6
I know it isn't the sexiest thing in the world, but I love Navy's double-wing option offense. Option football allows lesser talent to compete with greater talent. It might just be the appropriate offense for USD. I am in no way sold on it, but I think it is due more consideration then it is given in this day and age. Is that an insinuation that the Coyotes have or will have lesser talent than their opponents? I am not for or against any one style of offense as long as the Coyotes aren't the kind of team that has little flexibility to their offense. If they run a double wing option offense but don't have a passing game to unleash when they need it than I am against that type of offense. No, not insinuating anything. But I think it can help cover some weaknesses or challenges - namely finding great passers and wideouts. In reality, the Air Raid offense that Mike Leach made famous covers similar challenges. Balance is essential. |
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