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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 23, 2015 20:27:39 GMT -6
You're not going to find the athletes in the area to run this offense. It's one of the reasons why NDSU has been so successful. I posted about this earlier. For sustained success in he MVFC you have to play tough defense and you have to be able to pound the ball with power football. You do those two things and add in a few playmakers and you are well on your way. I'd like to see an old throwback type of coach who will play power football. Think of Jim Harbaugh, Mark Dantonio, or Kirk Ferentz. All midwest based coaches who run power football and have been very successful. There is no rule that says you have to get a huge offensive line and play smash mouth football in the Valley. I believe Southern Illinois is one of the best offenses in the Valley if not the best and they rely more on passing then running. The problem is that people don't think outside the box. There is no one style that has to be played to win in the Valley. I do agree that having a defense that is good against the run is probably a good idea but one of the best offenses the Coyotes have ever had revolved alot around the passing game that Caruso ran while at USD. That offense was very versatile with what they could do. I would much rather have an offense that is well balanced and can do many things well. USD's offense was not build to move the ball up and down the field quickly and when they really needed it against SDSU at the end of the game it was lost when it needed to move quickly. USD's offense as we have seen it has relied on smash mouth football and didn't do much for smashing mouths. It was anemic at best. Take advantage of the dome and get some athletes from Florida and California with some speed. If Valley defenses are built to stop the run so maybe it's a good idea to go against the grain and give those defenses something to think about. |
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 23, 2015 20:29:45 GMT -6
Everyone is entitled to an opinion on the choice of who will lead the Coyotes the next few years, and that's fine. But for some, who have led the charge to get rid of Joe Glenn and staff, and EdMeoerkort and staff, the recommendations and names and logic for them is unbelievable. My belief is that there is more to simply winning and losing games. The charecter of the coach and his players matter. That's exactly why Ed was let go 4 years ago. No question. I said at the time it would hurt us, it did, but Joe Glenn did put us on the upswing this year despite others feelings thats not true. I beleive it to be true. If zed was fired for his antics and charecte4 years ago, I ghen have no issue with that. I was unaware of it at the time. But if he was fired based on his teams wins and losses, then David Sayler needed his head examined. But I do think it was a charecter issue, so I can live with the firing. But it still set us back. A few days ago a question was asked by someone about whether or not we were willing to have trouble makers on the team in the interest of winning games. A certain poster basically said he was willing to let that happen "to a point". What's that point? Then I recommended a name of a Power 5 coach that was let go yesterday and a couple of posters didn't ike it because he was either a bad guy ( which in my opinion he isn't even close to being a bad guy ) or he was fired. You don't want to hire a fired coach. What??? Circumstances are very different at every school. Some people are fits, some aren't. That's what this hire has to be about. I have to assume every candidate has football knowledge, but they are looking for a match. For someone critical of Joe Glenn, then to drop names of NAIA coaches, or a short term D2 coach is inconsistent. I've heard the phrase " we better do a national search or I'm going to be highly disappointed " several times. Stugart, Riggs, and DeBoer are the names being dropped. Really? A national search, and all three of these come from a school less than 60 miles from Vermillion? Then someone said Salem or Huipel,but that recommendation was quickly criticized. It was shot down without merit. When going back and reviewing the facts, Salem did an honorable job of building Augustana. Even though I don't know Josh Hueipel I would think on merits alone his name would shoot towards the top off he list. Knows the JuCo scene. Runner up Heosman. Offensive coordinator at Oklahia and Utah State. Connections would indicate he could put together a staff. And his crews open a shitload of doors recruiting. The point in all this is if you are going to lead the charge in a movement, at least be consistent. Ed recruited "not good people" players. But you're willing to accept a certain criminal element in order to win? Have a national search, but the only recomendations are coaches from Sioux Falls, or Sioux Falls connections. Blast Joe Glenn for several weeks then post a thank you note to him? Talk about opening up the checkbook and having the money to do this right, yet not buy season tickets? Put down others recommendations yet historically say keep an open mind? Regarding Stugart or DeBoer, I don't know either one. On the surface they appear to be solid guys. But I dont know the backgrounds. In looking at CF's post of Stugarts record at USF, I'm a little surprised he would recommend him. I'm not critical, just surprised. One year he is 10-1, then 6-5. Then 9-2, then 6-5. Overall that's not a bad record, I agree,but IF you want to be a contender every year, as you have posted, that historic record of his is not consistent with your philosophy. Speculation on the next coach will be rampant. I will support whatever decision they make. And when they name one, I won't judge them negatively, but rather embrace them and welcome them to the Coyote family. Good luck and best wishes to Herbster and Williams as they go through the process. They will make the right decision. Keep in mind that although it's admirable to puff out our chest and say we want to win the league, or be top contenders every year in The Valley, there are 9 other teams with more resources that want the same. At the end of the day, Joe Glenn did exactly what he was hired to do. Give his alma mater 4 years of his best, and get us into position to contend. He can retire knowing he did just that. Thank you Joe. I thought you were extending an olive branch but by that post it certainly doesn't seem that way. I make my opinions and you make your opinions and that is fine. The difference between you and I is that you are always taking shots at me but yet I don't take shots at you. Why don't you re-evaluate that olive branch that you extended because I question whether you really meant it. I meant it. I said I was surprised you endorse Stugart with a record that is good one year, then not so good the next. You have said you wanted to perenially be good every year. And for the record I didn't say he wasn't a good coach. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 23, 2015 20:47:05 GMT -6
I never said Stugart was my first choice either but I personally like the success that he has had. His last two years have been good and the mediocre seasons were likely because of the transition to D2. He was dominant just before the transition and now that USF has their D2 legs he is very good once again. I think people get too obsessed with where a coach coached and not the success that a particular coach has. Who cares if someone coached at Iowa State if they didn't have success coaching there. I would rather have a coach at a lower level that was very good or dominant than a coach that may have had marginal/mediocre success at a higher level. I prefer dominance at head coach vs experience as an assistance at a high level school. I also like up and comers that have had nothing but success at the point of their careers that they are at. I am not totally against assistants but if we are to go that route they better have been dominant at their craft.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 21:22:50 GMT -6
I posted about this earlier. For sustained success in he MVFC you have to play tough defense and you have to be able to pound the ball with power football. You do those two things and add in a few playmakers and you are well on your way. I'd like to see an old throwback type of coach who will play power football. Think of Jim Harbaugh, Mark Dantonio, or Kirk Ferentz. All midwest based coaches who run power football and have been very successful. There is no rule that says you have to get a huge offensive line and play smash mouth football in the Valley. I believe Southern Illinois is one of the best offenses in the Valley if not the best and they rely more on passing then running. The problem is that people don't think outside the box. There is no one style that has to be played to win in the Valley. I do agree that having a defense that is good against the run is probably a good idea but one of the best offenses the Coyotes have ever had revolved alot around the passing game that Caruso ran while at USD. That offense was very versatile with what they could do. I would much rather have an offense that is well balanced and can do many things well. USD's offense was not build to move the ball up and down the field quickly and when they really needed it against SDSU at the end of the game it was lost when it needed to move quickly. USD's offense as we have seen it has relied on smash mouth football and didn't do much for smashing mouths. It was anemic at best. Take advantage of the dome and get some athletes from Florida and California with some speed. If Valley defenses are built to stop the run so maybe it's a good idea to go against the grain and give those defenses something to think about. Seriously? NDSU, SDSU, Illinois St, & UNI all run the ball and have dominant defenses. All of them have balanced running and passing attacks. You have to run the ball in the Valley. All of them have running QBs too minus Lujan. Southern Illinois might have a fun offense, but they suck. (I can't believe I replied back) |
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Post by dklemme on Nov 23, 2015 22:37:34 GMT -6
I prefer dominance at head coach vs experience as an assistance at a high level school. Don't totally disagree. I'm guessing that is what Wyoming thought too last year. I hope I'm proven wrong, but just because you dominate one place doesn't always transpire to others. Hawkins from Boise to Colorado comes to mind. What would a outside the box hire look like? GA Tech/Navy scheme, fast paced like Oregon? Stanford 2 or 3 TE sets and piss pound you? Then you have to recruit for that. What would a kid or juco transfer from someplace warm draw them to Ball Shrinking Cold Vermillion?if coaches are in place who can motivate and are experts in their craft, the kids will see that. If they see a commitment to success that could bring them too. That has to be the culture change. We will play smart, aggressive, play tough nosed D where you will have to scratch for every inch you get, and put together a series of first downs to keep the chains moving and the def on their toes. Lastly have sound special teams. Win games by field position. There is no easy answer. We can dream big fellas, but my gut tells me (it's a big gut) the hire isn't going to blow anyone away. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 23, 2015 22:55:28 GMT -6
There is no rule that says you have to get a huge offensive line and play smash mouth football in the Valley. I believe Southern Illinois is one of the best offenses in the Valley if not the best and they rely more on passing then running. The problem is that people don't think outside the box. There is no one style that has to be played to win in the Valley. I do agree that having a defense that is good against the run is probably a good idea but one of the best offenses the Coyotes have ever had revolved alot around the passing game that Caruso ran while at USD. That offense was very versatile with what they could do. I would much rather have an offense that is well balanced and can do many things well. USD's offense was not build to move the ball up and down the field quickly and when they really needed it against SDSU at the end of the game it was lost when it needed to move quickly. USD's offense as we have seen it has relied on smash mouth football and didn't do much for smashing mouths. It was anemic at best. Take advantage of the dome and get some athletes from Florida and California with some speed. If Valley defenses are built to stop the run so maybe it's a good idea to go against the grain and give those defenses something to think about. Seriously? NDSU, SDSU, Illinois St, & UNI all run the ball and have dominant defenses. All of them have balanced running and passing attacks. You have to run the ball in the Valley. All of them have running QBs too minus Lujan. Southern Illinois might have a fun offense, but they suck. (I can't believe I replied back) Lets get one thing straight. Southern Illinois does not suck because of their offense, they suck because they have a horrible defense. I am sure the Jacks would take SIU's offense over their own any day of the week and really who wouldn't. I do agree that it's very important to have a good defense in the Valley. That factor alone is more important than the style of offense a team runs. If USD had the Southern Illinois offense they would probably be getting ready to play in a week or two. When USD had a dominant offense with variety including alot of passing they were unstoppable to pretty much any team in the NCC and would have probably beaten any team in D2 that year at home along with at least half the teams in the Valley. I am not saying that the Coyotes should abandon the running game but what I am saying is that they need to be much more proficient passing the ball. It cost them against SDSU and against Illinois State. My ideal team going forward would be for the Coyotes to have a balanced offense with a quarterback that is definately capable of chucking it alot better than Saeger. I love to see running out of spread formations because it opens lanes for a guy like Frederick. I can't wait to see what a new coach will do with Frederick. I would also like to see an offense that takes a few more chances down the field to open up the underneath stuff when it is really needed for later in a game. My ideal defense is just like the other good Valley defenses. Obviously strong against the run and big up front. Quick and hard hitting linebackers. Tough SOB's basically. I believe in being a trend setter much more than being a copycat. Caruso was a trend setter for USD and because of that I would have no problem if he ended up being the guy. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 23, 2015 23:06:08 GMT -6
I prefer dominance at head coach vs experience as an assistance at a high level school. Don't totally disagree. I'm guessing that is what Wyoming thought too last year. I hope I'm proven wrong, but just because you dominate one place doesn't always transpire to others. Hawkins from Boise to Colorado comes to mind. What would a outside the box hire look like? GA Tech/Navy scheme, fast paced like Oregon? Stanford 2 or 3 TE sets and piss pound you? Then you have to recruit for that. What would a kid or juco transfer from someplace warm draw them to Ball Shrinking Cold Vermillion?if coaches are in place who can motivate and are experts in their craft, the kids will see that. If they see a commitment to success that could bring them too. That has to be the culture change. We will play smart, aggressive, play tough nosed D where you will have to scratch for every inch you get, and put together a series of first downs to keep the chains moving and the def on their toes. Lastly have sound special teams. Win games by field position. There is no easy answer. We can dream big fellas, but my gut tells me (it's a big gut) the hire isn't going to blow anyone away. Was it Herbster or Saylor that hired Amy Williams? I think most will be as excited with the hire as we were for Craig Smith. Most people were happy with the hiring of Smith and are satisfied with what he has done so far. I am a believer that the Coyotes can be winners in football and I don't buy into the excuse makers giving us a 1000 reasons why they can't. I do think they need to bump up the salaries a bit but I don't think they have to spend at NDSU's level to get to the top. I think they need to close the gap but can do so with increased but reasonable money. Unless it is a total bust hire such as Beschorner or someone that doesn't come close to the qualifications that we should be looking for I will likely give Herbster the benefit of the doubt as long as the hiring process was a true search and not a pre determined outcome. When Glenn was hired it was not a true search. The Coyotes tend to end up with the best coaches when they are not predetermined hires and involve a search committee. If Herbster does his due diligence I believe that we will get a good one. |
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Post by wintheday on Nov 24, 2015 2:05:50 GMT -6
Seriously? NDSU, SDSU, Illinois St, & UNI all run the ball and have dominant defenses. All of them have balanced running and passing attacks. You have to run the ball in the Valley. All of them have running QBs too minus Lujan. Southern Illinois might have a fun offense, but they suck. (I can't believe I replied back) Lets get one thing straight. Southern Illinois does not suck because of their offense, they suck because they have a horrible defense. I am sure the Jacks would take SIU's offense over their own any day of the week and really who wouldn't. I do agree that it's very important to have a good defense in the Valley. That factor alone is more important than the style of offense a team runs. If USD had the Southern Illinois offense they would probably be getting ready to play in a week or two. When USD had a dominant offense with variety including alot of passing they were unstoppable to pretty much any team in the NCC and would have probably beaten any team in D2 that year at home along with at least half the teams in the Valley. I am not saying that the Coyotes should abandon the running game but what I am saying is that they need to be much more proficient passing the ball. It cost them against SDSU and against Illinois State. My ideal team going forward would be for the Coyotes to have a balanced offense with a quarterback that is definately capable of chucking it alot better than Saeger. I love to see running out of spread formations because it opens lanes for a guy like Frederick. I can't wait to see what a new coach will do with Frederick. I would also like to see an offense that takes a few more chances down the field to open up the underneath stuff when it is really needed for later in a game. My ideal defense is just like the other good Valley defenses. Obviously strong against the run and big up front. Quick and hard hitting linebackers. Tough SOB's basically. I believe in being a trend setter much more than being a copycat. Caruso was a trend setter for USD and because of that I would have no problem if he ended up being the guy. Yes because despite the innovation of the spread offense, teams with spread offenses give up massive amount of points. Use some logic and look at Baylor, Texas Tech and the other spread teams across the nation that are top 20 in fewest time of possession. When you run an offense that quickly and have a 3 and out. You are setting any defense up for failure when you have a fatigued unit out there. Success in maintain lengthy drives leads to more successful defenses. To say to SIU's defense is awful more of a product of their offensive system than their defense. Teams such as Eastern Washington struggle with running the spread and hanging their defense out to dry. I firmly believe a lot of our successes on defense came from the ability to run the football. The new head coach should have a philosophy similar to what is in place, not to do a complete 180 with the system in place. |
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 24, 2015 7:53:29 GMT -6
Lets get one thing straight. Southern Illinois does not suck because of their offense, they suck because they have a horrible defense. I am sure the Jacks would take SIU's offense over their own any day of the week and really who wouldn't. I do agree that it's very important to have a good defense in the Valley. That factor alone is more important than the style of offense a team runs. If USD had the Southern Illinois offense they would probably be getting ready to play in a week or two. When USD had a dominant offense with variety including alot of passing they were unstoppable to pretty much any team in the NCC and would have probably beaten any team in D2 that year at home along with at least half the teams in the Valley. I am not saying that the Coyotes should abandon the running game but what I am saying is that they need to be much more proficient passing the ball. It cost them against SDSU and against Illinois State. My ideal team going forward would be for the Coyotes to have a balanced offense with a quarterback that is definately capable of chucking it alot better than Saeger. I love to see running out of spread formations because it opens lanes for a guy like Frederick. I can't wait to see what a new coach will do with Frederick. I would also like to see an offense that takes a few more chances down the field to open up the underneath stuff when it is really needed for later in a game. My ideal defense is just like the other good Valley defenses. Obviously strong against the run and big up front. Quick and hard hitting linebackers. Tough SOB's basically. I believe in being a trend setter much more than being a copycat. Caruso was a trend setter for USD and because of that I would have no problem if he ended up being the guy. Yes because despite the innovation of the spread offense, teams with spread offenses give up massive amount of points. Use some logic and look at Baylor, Texas Tech and the other spread teams across the nation that are top 20 in fewest time of possession. When you run an offense that quickly and have a 3 and out. You are setting any defense up for failure when you have a fatigued unit out there. Success in maintain lengthy drives leads to more successful defenses. To say to SIU's defense is awful more of a product of their offensive system than their defense. Teams such as Eastern Washington struggle with running the spread and hanging their defense out to dry. I firmly believe a lot of our successes on defense came from the ability to run the football. The new head coach should have a philosophy similar to what is in place, not to do a complete 180 with the system in place. Welcome to the board wintheday. Where have you been? This is someone that understands the game. Spread offenses are fun to watch if you are good at them, but they also set up the defense to fail as wintheday explained. With 65 schlorships, compared to the FBS at 80 some, you can't recruit enough kids to be viable on bob sides of the ball. football is give and take. In order to take something, you have to give up something. We can all sit at the keyboard and take strong stands about wanting proficient passing games along side efficient running games, with stout lines both O and D, and aggressive and quick linebackers with tall D backs, and we can say we want a coach that has seventeen thousand titles under his belt and can recruit to a Vermillion easily, all he has to do is show up and they will sign.....get real, good God. It's fine to discuss whether you want a successful coach at a lower level vs a guy that's looking to become a head coach and jump start his career. There are arguments for either hire, and you can give situations to either support your position or wreak havoc with your position. But the reality of all of this is at the end of the day, we hire a coach that "fits" at USD. If it's Stugart, fine. If it's Paul Rhoads, fine. Or Joe Salems son at Michigan State, fine. Or Coach Joe Blow that comes from Anywhere State, where he has compiled a record of 312 wins and 2 losses, fine. It just doesnt work that way. If you're a smart AD in today's world, you hire a search firm. They interview you, the president, and perhaps a member of the athletic council, and get a feel for what type of coach you're looking for. These guys are good. They know who's looking, who's not, and what it takes to get them. After reading what everyone wants, my guess the only eligible candidate that would fit everyone's personal taste is Nick Saban. Somebody posted recently his gut ( apparently large one ) feel is the hire won't blow us away. Amen. I feel the same. Everyone's want list is different. If Caruso was hired, there would be some happy people. Others would say he comes from D3, bum hire. If Rhoads was hired, some would say awesome, and others would say he lost at Iowa State so he's a loser. If Tim Salem was hired, many would say he wasn't even a coordinator at MSU. If Riggs is hired, I would puke. Look at SDSU right now. Half their posters want Stig gone. That's laughable. The man has won more games probably than any other recent coach and is 8-3 this year. They literally think Brookings is the football mecca of FCS football. Anything less than 11-0 is ridiculous. They are ridiculous. Absurd. Until Stig, they have never been relevant in football, and quite frankly, the gap between them and us is basically gone. They beat us, but shouldn't have. We know it and they know it. The bottom line is we don't have fans that are willing to accept mediocre football, but we have fans in my estimation that are realistic. We want to compete and contend. I can accept a 5th place finish if I know next year we can finish first or second or third. I am going to give my unwaivering support to Herbster and Williams in this process, because quite frankly they both know a hell of a lot more than we do on what it takes. And if I'm disappointed in the hire, no one will know it,because whomever it is, they deserve our support. |
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Post by azsod73 on Nov 24, 2015 8:42:51 GMT -6
What are the thoughts on a reasonable timeline (weeks) for getting the new coach under contract, beyond "be quick but don't hurry"?
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Post by yodayote on Nov 24, 2015 8:57:09 GMT -6
Herbster said last night on the Coyote Report that with the Williams and Smith Hiring it took about 2 weeks and with a lot of teams still playing that timeline is not unreasonable.
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Post by nccyote on Nov 24, 2015 9:01:14 GMT -6
You're not going to find the athletes in the area to run this offense. It's one of the reasons why NDSU has been so successful. Who said anything about those athletes necessarily having to come from this area. I think that if you look at the successful programs in FCS, particularly in the MVFC, you will find that those schools' rosters are built primarily from kids in their regional footprint. Sustained success does not come from going outside of your region for the bulk of your roster. If you are talking about going to FL or TX to maybe get 1 or 2 difference makers a year, that is feasible. To make those areas your focus of recruiting would be a big mistake IMO. Whoever the next head coach is, kids from SD, NE, IA, MN, IL, CO needs to be his recruiting focus. Look at NDSU and SDSU, their rosters are loaded with kids from the Dakota footprint. State has been stealing top level kids from Nebraska for the last 5 years with Dan jackson poaching a bunch of kids from the Omaha area where he used to coach high school ball. |
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Post by yote14 on Nov 24, 2015 9:08:54 GMT -6
I wouldn't mind seeing an offense that isn't so focused on the run. I wouldn't mind a coach with some athletes on the field and to spread out that offense a bit. It would be nice to play to the advantage of the dome and throw it around some. I think a back like Frederick would be perfect for a scheme like that. I think after SDSU switches to field turf that everyone in the conference will be off of grass. There are two other domes aside from the Dakota Dome so it's a good conference to open it up a bit. That isn't to say that we shouldn't be able to run because in the playoffs in the cold weather having a good O line and being able to run it are important. Caruso would be a good coach for an explosive offense. USF is also very powerful on offense so Stugart would probably bring a good scheme with him as well. These are for sure going to be exciting times. You're not going to find the athletes in the area to run this offense. It's one of the reasons why NDSU has been so successful. Not taking a shot at SDSU here but if the power run game is the only way to win in the MVFC how is SDSU having the best season in the history of their program this year with a non existent running game?
Obviously they found some athletes (Weineke) that allows them to have a bad run game this year and they are successful without it.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 24, 2015 9:30:11 GMT -6
There is no rule that says you have to get a huge offensive line and play smash mouth football in the Valley. I believe Southern Illinois is one of the best offenses in the Valley if not the best and they rely more on passing then running. The problem is that people don't think outside the box. There is no one style that has to be played to win in the Valley. I do agree that having a defense that is good against the run is probably a good idea but one of the best offenses the Coyotes have ever had revolved alot around the passing game that Caruso ran while at USD. That offense was very versatile with what they could do. I would much rather have an offense that is well balanced and can do many things well. USD's offense was not build to move the ball up and down the field quickly and when they really needed it against SDSU at the end of the game it was lost when it needed to move quickly. USD's offense as we have seen it has relied on smash mouth football and didn't do much for smashing mouths. It was anemic at best. Take advantage of the dome and get some athletes from Florida and California with some speed. If Valley defenses are built to stop the run so maybe it's a good idea to go against the grain and give those defenses something to think about. Seriously? NDSU, SDSU, Illinois St, & UNI all run the ball and have dominant defenses. All of them have balanced running and passing attacks. You have to run the ball in the Valley. All of them have running QBs too minus Lujan. Southern Illinois might have a fun offense, but they suck. (I can't believe I replied back) Mark this day down, I am on the side of an SDSU fan. |
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Post by nccyote on Nov 24, 2015 9:34:01 GMT -6
Welcome to the board wintheday. Where have you been? This is someone that understands the game. Spread offenses are fun to watch if you are good at them, but they also set up the defense to fail as wintheday explained. With 65 schlorships, compared to the FBS at 80 some, you can't recruit enough kids to be viable on bob sides of the ball. football is give and take. In order to take something, you have to give up something. We can all sit at the keyboard and take strong stands about wanting proficient passing games along side efficient running games, with stout lines both O and D, and aggressive and quick linebackers with tall D backs, and we can say we want a coach that has seventeen thousand titles under his belt and can recruit to a Vermillion easily, all he has to do is show up and they will sign.....get real, good God. It's fine to discuss whether you want a successful coach at a lower level vs a guy that's looking to become a head coach and jump start his career. There are arguments for either hire, and you can give situations to either support your position or wreak havoc with your position. But the reality of all of this is at the end of the day, we hire a coach that "fits" at USD. If it's Stugart, fine. If it's Paul Rhoads, fine. Or Joe Salems son at Michigan State, fine. Or Coach Joe Blow that comes from Anywhere State, where he has compiled a record of 312 wins and 2 losses, fine. It just doesnt work that way. If you're a smart AD in today's world, you hire a search firm. They interview you, the president, and perhaps a member of the athletic council, and get a feel for what type of coach you're looking for. These guys are good. They know who's looking, who's not, and what it takes to get them. After reading what everyone wants, my guess the only eligible candidate that would fit everyone's personal taste is Nick Saban. Somebody posted recently his gut ( apparently large one ) feel is the hire won't blow us away. Amen. I feel the same. Everyone's want list is different. If Caruso was hired, there would be some happy people. Others would say he comes from D3, bum hire. If Rhoads was hired, some would say awesome, and others would say he lost at Iowa State so he's a loser. If Tim Salem was hired, many would say he wasn't even a coordinator at MSU. If Riggs is hired, I would puke. Look at SDSU right now. Half their posters want Stig gone. That's laughable. The man has won more games probably than any other recent coach and is 8-3 this year. They literally think Brookings is the football mecca of FCS football. Anything less than 11-0 is ridiculous. They are ridiculous. Absurd. Until Stig, they have never been relevant in football, and quite frankly, the gap between them and us is basically gone. They beat us, but shouldn't have. We know it and they know it. The bottom line is we don't have fans that are willing to accept mediocre football, but we have fans in my estimation that are realistic. We want to compete and contend. I can accept a 5th place finish if I know next year we can finish first or second or third. I am going to give my unwaivering support to Herbster and Williams in this process, because quite frankly they both know a hell of a lot more than we do on what it takes. And if I'm disappointed in the hire, no one will know it,because whomever it is, they deserve our support. Anyone know if this is the route that the administration is going? I know that these types of search firms don't normally work for cheap. I think that this would be a good way to find quality candidates but is it common at the FCS level? How did we go about the hiring of Amy Williams and Craig Smith? was it through a search firm or just through the traditional application process? Just curious if anyone might have some knowledge about this process and how we have handled it in the past. |
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