ctc2010
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Post by ctc2010 on Jan 12, 2016 19:06:18 GMT -6
Have to say that Goyotes' post above with the excerpt from the SDSU board made me chuckle. Especially, "but maybe SDSU has another shot at him." No way VG makes this decision only to end up at State. (emphasis on only) Presumptuous much? Adding some context: The poster who was excerpted from the SDSU fan board is a knowledgeable guy (apparently a coach) who, in the view of some (well, at least me and one of my friends), went tilt (back around the time when Van Ginkel committed to USD) over what he saw was the failure of SDSU's recruiters to recruit Northwest Iowa strongly enough. He referred in particular to two players he predicted would be stars. One was Van Ginkel and the other was a fellow named Snyder (looks like Snyder will be a stud for Iowa). That poster came on strongly with his opinions and, consequently (par for the course for message boards) met with some resistance (i.e. sarcasm, old-fashioned smart-assisms etc.). When his predictions about Van Ginkel and Snyder turned out to be true, he reminded the SDSU board. [For example, here's a link to a thread started in April of 2015...a little bit of a "told you so" thread: sdsufans.com/board/showthread.php?13977-Van-Ginkel-and-Snyder&p=272649#post272649 ] My point: That particular poster on SDSU's board has pounded on everyone about how good Van Ginkel would be and now is. Wisecracks on the SDSU board on the topic of Van Ginkel are really directed at the strong opinions stated by the poster who has been voicing his upset since a couple years ago about SDSU was not recruiting NW Iowa. I think there's no question SDSU fans recognize Van Ginkel was a very good football player and I don't recall any disagreement with the MVFC awarding him the recognition it did. So, the comments about SDSU maybe having another chance was sarcasm -- in the view of the particular poster excerpted on this board, SDSU missed the boat to begin with and his comment was a clever continuation of his criticism of how he perceived SDSU had recruited in NW Iowa. Tough loss for USD...hard to understand when those things happen with a starter who was getting great recognition for his excellent play. Sometimes we see talented athletes transfer because they're not getting enough playing time. That we can understand. This one is hard to figure out but as a Jacks fan, I won't complain. Subject change: I registered on sdsufans.com yesterday and I'm not allowed to post or anything. Any idea why? |
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Post by ctc2010 on Jan 12, 2016 20:25:15 GMT -6
ctc2010 asked: "Subject change: I registered on sdsufans.com yesterday and I'm not allowed to post or anything. Any idea why?" Simple explanation: the moderators don't spend all of their time watching for new members. The new member signups get checked frequently but sometimes there's a lag. But, there could be other reasons. For example, have you been a member before but got banned? Try signing in now. Never been registered before, but I'm activated now. Thanks! |
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Post by yotefan on Jan 12, 2016 20:41:20 GMT -6
Have to say that Goyotes' post above with the excerpt from the SDSU board made me chuckle. Especially, "but maybe SDSU has another shot at him." No way VG makes this decision only to end up at State. (emphasis on only) Presumptuous much? Adding some context: The poster who was excerpted from the SDSU fan board is a knowledgeable guy (apparently a coach) who, in the view of some (well, at least me and one of my friends), went tilt (back around the time when Van Ginkel committed to USD) over what he saw was the failure of SDSU's recruiters to recruit Northwest Iowa strongly enough. He referred in particular to two players he predicted would be stars. One was Van Ginkel and the other was a fellow named Snyder (looks like Snyder will be a stud for Iowa). That poster came on strongly with his opinions and, consequently (par for the course for message boards) met with some resistance (i.e. sarcasm, old-fashioned smart-assisms etc.). When his predictions about Van Ginkel and Snyder turned out to be true, he reminded the SDSU board. [For example, here's a link to a thread started in April of 2015...a little bit of a "told you so" thread: sdsufans.com/board/showthread.php?13977-Van-Ginkel-and-Snyder&p=272649#post272649 ] My point: That particular poster on SDSU's board has pounded on everyone about how good Van Ginkel would be and now is. Wisecracks on the SDSU board on the topic of Van Ginkel are really directed at the strong opinions stated by the poster who has been voicing his upset since a couple years ago about SDSU was not recruiting NW Iowa. I think there's no question SDSU fans recognize Van Ginkel was a very good football player and I don't recall any disagreement with the MVFC awarding him the recognition it did. So, the comments about SDSU maybe having another chance was sarcasm -- in the view of the particular poster excerpted on this board, SDSU missed the boat to begin with and his comment was a clever continuation of his criticism of how he perceived SDSU had recruited in NW Iowa. Tough loss for USD...hard to understand when those things happen with a starter who was getting great recognition for his excellent play. Sometimes we see talented athletes transfer because they're not getting enough playing time. That we can understand. This one is hard to figure out but as a Jacks fan, I won't complain. JackJD, I read the thread on the bunny board yesterday, including your joke about AVG not having to sit out a year for moving up a level from USD to IWCC (ouch), and while I picked up on your sarcasm, I didn't pick up on any of the sarcasm from your guy, but I will concede I was not privy to any of the history you cited above. I too have a bit of a "told you so" thread history concerning VanGinkel. As some on here will recall Andrew was late to the signing day party back in 2014 and I was pretty worried we may lose him. I confess I was logging in and checking the internet regularly to see if we had signed him yet. Anyway, here was one of my posts: I agree 61, he is a talented kid and has the ability to make a HUGE impact at USD. Sounds like the coaching staff remains hopeful he will still sign. At the end of the day, the deed is done and time to move on. Good luck to Gink. He is one guy among many and it is next man up and time for someone else to shine. If Jake Weineke left State with the same plan, there would be similar conversations taking place, but also solid recruits to take his place. It'd still burn your ass, but Jake isn't the only one who knows how to catch a pass in Brookings. Same deal here. I'm with Yote53, brighter days ahead for USD football, with or without one guy. |
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Post by yotes96 on Jan 12, 2016 23:00:16 GMT -6
Last post I'll have unless someone replies to this: Gink may not be on the team anymore but reading the SDSU boards about him makes me want to go out there and kick some jack rabbit a$$!!!!! He was a Coyote and did great things while he was here. Don't knock him down anymore than other people are. As a former teammate, I owe him my support. He's a good kid who will get the job done no matter where he is. Down right wrong and rude for SDSU fans to be saying some of the things they are. Whether us players want to admit it or not, we read this boards and see what people say. Keep ur head up Gink.
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 12, 2016 23:15:08 GMT -6
SDSU is a rival school. Take everything they say with a grain of salt. That said, the things said on every one of the Dakota school's message boards is pretty tame compared to what goes on at the boards of big time FBS schools. SEC boards, don't get me started, some of those places are downright crazy. We're still pretty civil in this neck of the woods.
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Post by jackjd on Jan 13, 2016 1:09:14 GMT -6
Last post I'll have unless someone replies to this: Gink may not be on the team anymore but reading the SDSU boards about him makes me want to go out there and kick some jack rabbit a$$!!!!! He was a Coyote and did great things while he was here. Don't knock him down anymore than other people are. As a former teammate, I owe him my support. He's a good kid who will get the job done no matter where he is. Down right wrong and rude for SDSU fans to be saying some of the things they are. Whether us players want to admit it or not, we read this boards and see what people say. Keep ur head up Gink. Hate to see you quit posting so I'll reply. When I posted earlier in an attempt to add some context, I was trying to show that what was underlying some of the comments about Van Ginkel had essentially nothing to do with Van Ginkel and everything to do with some sarcastic ripping on a particular poster. I'm not going to spend much time digging into the SDSUFANS board history but I took a quick look at the 2015 Recruiting thread because I recalled there was some teasing in that thread about a supposed failure to recruit NW Iowa. If you go to post 33 in that thread and read a few of the following posts (note the dates: 2014 posts), you can see people having a little fun with a poster (I'm quite sure he's an SDSU guy) because he continually harps on his claim that SDSU was missing some great players by not mining the football talent in NW Iowa. Other people were a little tired of getting beat over the head with strongly-worded posts about how Jacks coaches were supposedly screwing up. Doesn't this board have a prolific poster (CF) who seems to oppose most rational thought? Well, other boards have personalities like that too. I stand by the point that the reference to SDSU maybe having a shot a landing VG was intended as sarcasm (if anyone is jumping into the middle of this thread, see the Jan 11 post in this thread in which a post from the SDSU board was quoted). The poster has reminded the SDSU board readers how in his opinion SDSU already screwed up by not recruiting VG when he was in high school (and I have no idea if that is correct...I think the SDSU poster quoted in this thread probably knows more than me about how SDSU is recruiting in NW Iowa). Now, yotes96, if all that makes you want to kick some jackrabbits, keep your focus on the playing field where it counts. |
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Post by jackjd on Jan 13, 2016 1:19:45 GMT -6
Yorefan: you aren't going to hold bad jokes written in a smack thread against me, are you?  I agree there would likely be the same consternation at SDSU if Weineke had announced he was leaving. I think Van Ginkel's transfer is a loss to the conference. If he had stayed, in a few years we may be telling people on Sundays how we watched him play back in the day. |
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Post by obc on Jan 13, 2016 6:09:45 GMT -6
AVG invested two years of his life at USD and put up an extremely productive season that displayed his talent, effort and hustle. While as a fan, I am disappointed, I also wish him massive success.
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Post by yote14 on Jan 13, 2016 9:36:50 GMT -6
jackjd, So yotes96 should just let it slide because you say comments on the sdsu board were are all sarcasm. You come on here to do damage control and downplay everything like you are the voice of reason all the time yet on the sdsu board you talk crap about USD non stop. Go make some more Fear Ed jokes on your board or the Argus blog and quit telling yotes96 to keep it on the field where it counts. I know I know jackjd is a "solid" guy.
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Post by GoYotes on Jan 13, 2016 9:42:08 GMT -6
As far as Jacks fans go, JackJD appears to be OK, but at the end of the day he is still a Jacks fan and therefore #FEEBLuE
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ctc2010
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Post by ctc2010 on Jan 13, 2016 9:44:54 GMT -6
As far as Jacks fans go, JackJD appears to be OK, but at the end of the day he is still a Jacks fan and therefore # FEEBLuEGo Big, Go Blue, Go... to the Emergency Room, that's not supposed to last more than 4 hours |
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 13, 2016 10:35:20 GMT -6
Like I said, the Dakotas are pretty tame. An SDSU poster says some derogatory stuff about USD on his home board yet feels compelled to come over to the USD board to explain everything and give it context so we won't be mad at him, all of this done anonymously too. Dakota Nice, I guess. Other boards they berate your school, tell you F off, then want to meet up and fight you in real life. Maybe come to your town and poison your trees or something like that.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Jan 13, 2016 10:48:03 GMT -6
My favorite is them making fun of the #FeaRed, but use #GetJacked as a hashtag. One could take that innuendo the wrong way quite easily.
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 13, 2016 11:05:12 GMT -6
#FeaRed, never really liked the campaign but I understood it from the start. It's a play on words, something the Bunny faithful just can't seem to grasp, probably due to their lack of education. Let me explain, #FeaRed has a double meaning, one of them being "Feared", the other of them meaning "Fear Red". I don't know how the morons got Fear Ed out of it. That would required the 'E' to be capitalized instead of the 'R', #FearEd. Get it?
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Post by coyoterj on Jan 13, 2016 11:06:27 GMT -6
What if Andrew would have declared himself eligible for the NFL draft? Isn't that leaving before your "commitment" is complete? (Hypothetical of course)
I can see if Andrew used this opportunity to eventually go to another school that would play against the Coyotes, then I can see some animosity with that situation.
In my opinion, I think its better to have had a quality man and great player like Andrew for the short time we did, than not at all.
Good luck Andrew.
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I agree there would likely be the same consternation at SDSU if Weineke had announced he was leaving. I think Van Ginkel's transfer is a loss to the conference. If he had stayed, in a few years we may be telling people on Sundays how we watched him play back in the day.
