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Post by jackl on Feb 21, 2017 19:11:25 GMT -6
The infamous sports section currently in question: (ps - ignore the yellowish highlight, that was my screen doing something strange) More fake news.....sad!
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Post by thumper76 on Feb 21, 2017 23:07:06 GMT -6
The infamous sports section currently in question: (ps - ignore the yellowish highlight, that was my screen doing something strange) I'll admit, I thought the letter to the editor came off a little whiny, but after seeing that picture it kind of does look like they're slighting USD at the bottom. Just from a visual standpoint, wouldn't it make sense to put the winning team's article on the left? And the bold (SDSU) and un-bold (USD; is that a word?) headlines make the USD story look like more of a footnote. Again, I'm not saying they're blatantly setting out to de-legitimize USD, but little things like that add up in my opinion Ok, so 3 out of 4 articles are about USD, but they aren't nice enough? Do you guys look at what your complaining about at all? Also, Zimmer said he is reacting that way because he feels it's an attack on Mick, who is a colleague. I know, I know, I'm a troll. Blah blah blah. But good grief you have the smaller fanbase and they get less business from your fans, you still get 3/4 articles, and you complain. Come on.
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Post by yotebewithyou on Feb 21, 2017 23:24:07 GMT -6
I'll admit, I thought the letter to the editor came off a little whiny, but after seeing that picture it kind of does look like they're slighting USD at the bottom. Just from a visual standpoint, wouldn't it make sense to put the winning team's article on the left? And the bold (SDSU) and un-bold (USD; is that a word?) headlines make the USD story look like more of a footnote. Again, I'm not saying they're blatantly setting out to de-legitimize USD, but little things like that add up in my opinion Ok, so 3 out of 4 articles are about USD, but they aren't nice enough? Do you guys look at what your complaining about at all? Also, Zimmer said he is reacting that way because he feels it's an attack on Mick, who is a colleague. I know, I know, I'm a troll. Blah blah blah. But good grief you have the smaller fanbase and they get less business from your fans, you still get 3/4 articles, and you complain. Come on. You missed the point.
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Post by sdyotefan on Feb 22, 2017 6:03:51 GMT -6
I agree with yotebewithyou. It is not "normal" for the losing team's article to have a bold headline especially for a non-home (and supposedly non-partial) paper. I also agree that besides Mooney's article deserving the bold headline that it should have been placed on the left. Given the timing of his 3s his heroics deserve more emphasis than another individual's total points.
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Post by yoteforever on Feb 22, 2017 6:39:38 GMT -6
I've said this before, and I'll probably end up saying it again, if you don't like what they print, then don't buy the paper. Period. I believe it was Yote53 that said it's free enterprise, and no one has to read what they print. In the state of Iowa, it has been that way ever since I was a kid. The University of Iowa get preferential treatment over Iowa State from the Des Moines Register. It's just how it is.
To write letters to the editor whining about it is foolish to me. There apparently isn't enough "potential" business out there to warrant an investment more than they have with USD for now. Maybe that will change, maybe it won't....who cares? Support the Yankton paper with Jereny, and the Sioux City Journal with Barry Poe. Vote with your pocketbook. I own a business in Sioux Falls and we simply elected not to run any ads with the AL. It's that simple really. There are a number of Coyote fans in NW Iowa that read the Journal as opposed to the Argus for that reason.
You want more coverage? Win. It's simple....just win. The so called apathy the AL has towards USD isn't much different than the apathy our fan base has in supporting Coyote athletics. My observation from the outside, and I could very well be off base, is that Sioux Falls is a high school sports town more than a college town. I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just an outsiders observation. SDSU went D1 ahead of us, and hopefully someday there will come a point in time where that no,longer plays into it, but that's when the momentum changed, and probably should have. That was a bigger story at the time, no they played on a bigger stage. We've gone through the "tough" period of catching up, so in my estimation, there's no more excuses. You want good,coverage? Win baby win. Until we do that on a regular basis, my guess is nothing will change. Win, and get a more fired up fan base, then maybe it changes. Who cares?
The game is played on the field and court, not the paper. No more excuses Coyote fans...win or go home.
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Post by yodayote on Feb 22, 2017 10:06:39 GMT -6
I wrote off the Argus Leader last year during spring football, when Zimmer had a new article everyday breaking down the positions. Mick finally wrote an article at the end of spring ball and said, that he is not good at evaluating football players during practices and there is little information to be learned from them.
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Post by howlincoyote on Feb 22, 2017 12:55:20 GMT -6
I wrote off the Argus Leader last year during spring football, when Zimmer had a new article everyday breaking down the positions. Mick finally wrote an article at the end of spring ball and said, that he is not good at evaluating football players during practices and there is little information to be learned from them. If I remember correctly, Mick also happened to be on his vacation, like, the first 5 or 6 days of that week, according to Zimmer. You could argue that he probably could have and/or should have picked a different time to go on vacation, but who knows what his reasons were for the timing? Either way, you have every right to write off the Argus for whatever reason you'd like. But if I'm remembering right, part of the issue was due to timing, not just Mick being lazy or refusing to do his job. That being said, his comments about not being able to evaluate players during practice probably didn't help his case with us Coyote faithful.
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Post by yodayote on Feb 22, 2017 16:18:56 GMT -6
Spring football lasts like 4 weeks....
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 22, 2017 17:42:22 GMT -6
Yoteforver,
I do not agree that "whining is foolish". It makes a difference. If enough people voice their displeasure about something it makes it more likely that someone will listen or something will change. I remember after the Coyotes missed the football playoffs in 2005 that USD wrote a formal letter basically complaining about the Coyotes getting left out of the playoffs. The next year they got an invitation to the playoffs with a team that was not quite as good as the 2005 team. Coaches whine to officials all the time. If a coach never complained to an official the likelihood of he or she to get future calls is just not as great. If more and more USD people complain to the Argus I can pretty much guarantee that eventually they would listen. I think much of what is being complained about isn't the amount of the content that USD gets but the slant or quality of the coverage. Mick just doesn't stand up for the Yotes like Matt or Terry do/did for SDSU. Just this week it's all about Daum this and Daum that. He had a great week but his coverage is over shadowing the team accomplishments from USD.
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Post by yoteforever on Feb 22, 2017 20:12:25 GMT -6
CF, That's fine, it's your opinion. You guaranty they'll change if enough people complain? It's been this way for several years now. I say vote with your pocketbook and not subscribe or pull your ads from them. Revenue is revenue.
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Post by Yote 53 on Feb 23, 2017 8:34:26 GMT -6
It's been this way for decades, over a quarter of a century if not longer. The Argus is not going to change. Just read the P&D or Journal.
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Post by GoYotes on Feb 23, 2017 8:57:27 GMT -6
It's been this way for decades, over a quarter of a century if not longer. The Argus is not going to change. Just read the P&D or Journal. Agree on the P&D. I don't subscribe to the print edition of the Sioux City Journal, but their online coverage of the Coyotes is no where close to the Argus. Poe does a nice job for the Journal on games that he attends, but there are some home games where the Journal only runs the story provided by the Yotes SID.
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Post by howlincoyote on Feb 23, 2017 9:50:07 GMT -6
Spring football lasts like 4 weeks.... Sure. But I think that blitz of articles Zimmer did was all in basically a one-week span. Unless I'm mixing it up with some other stretch of articles that took place in a single week. That was more what I was referring to.
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Post by gopheryote on Feb 23, 2017 13:41:49 GMT -6
PS - there is a chat today at 2:00. If you want more insights, show up and ask questions.
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Post by gopheryote on Feb 23, 2017 14:49:44 GMT -6
Someone should tell Mick the chat isn't working - it looks to him like he is the only one on there and not getting any questions, which I know isn't true. The guys is having a tough week...
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