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Post by coyote70 on Oct 17, 2016 18:38:52 GMT -6
We need more pollsters from the Midwest. The AGS pool seems to make the most sense but computer rankings shouldn't be ignored at this point in the season.
I think the Jacks will handle Youngstown and the Coyotes, well, they can do it if they and our fans refuse to lose!!
Personally, I'm sick of losing to Illinois State....
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Post by Yotes on Oct 17, 2016 21:01:37 GMT -6
I am seeing the Vegas line opening with USD as 3 point underdogs, O/U is 58, so they are essentially predicting Illinois State to win 30.5-27.5 (or, to be more accurate, predicting that half the bettors will go on each side of those lines). Illinois State has a deceiving record. They are a good team and this would be a good win for our program. I honestly feel we deserve to be favored slightly being at home but this is likely an evenly matched game.
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Post by goyotes24 on Oct 17, 2016 21:53:36 GMT -6
Really hope the student body will understand the true importance of this game.
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Post by yotebewithyou on Oct 17, 2016 22:03:23 GMT -6
Really hope the student body will understand the true importance of this game. Will be tough... I think this week is Hobo Days |
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Post by goyotes24 on Oct 17, 2016 22:07:11 GMT -6
Really hope the student body will understand the true importance of this game. Will be tough... I think this week is Hobo Days Right. Well I'll be there, and I plan on not having a voice on Sunday  |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 17, 2016 23:21:57 GMT -6
I am seeing the Vegas line opening with USD as 3 point underdogs, O/U is 58, so they are essentially predicting Illinois State to win 30.5-27.5 (or, to be more accurate, predicting that half the bettors will go on each side of those lines). Illinois State has a deceiving record. They are a good team and this would be a good win for our program. I honestly feel we deserve to be favored slightly being at home but this is likely an evenly matched game. How is their record deceiving. In comparison USD comes out ahead when you compare the two. I can't believe I am actually elevating the Yotes football program so much but here goes. Illinois State has 2 home losses to zero for the Coyotes. at Indiana State they lose by 3, we win by 3 and honestly it took some bad breaks for the Yotes not to win by more. They lose to Youngstown at home by 14, USD lost at Youngstown by 10. They beat Southern Illinois at home by 3, whereas the Yotes beat UNI by 3 at home. Almost everywhere you turn their is a slight advantage to the Coyotes in comparison. Of course you can only go so far in comparing scores but there does come a time where a trend starts to develop and that scale is tilting USD. Of course Illinois State can win in Vermillion but I really like the home field advantage that the Coyotes have in the dome. I would say with little doubt that USD's home field advantage is better then Illinois State's so the difference between playing this in their back yard vs a neutral field vs at the dome is an incremental difference. I take the Birds in Normal by 3. I take the Yotes on a neutral field by 3. I take the Yotes at home by a touchdown. As strange as this sounds I actually think the Coyotes nearly choking another game but surviving might help them more then if they had simply held on to win by 10. Now when these tight situations come up the Coyotes will probably feel more confident in themselves. The Weber State and ISU games will help them build that believe in themselves. If one was to predict the likelihood of either team to improve to me the odds favor USD. They are still getting used to a new coach and new system and I think they will only get better, and I think at a faster rate then Illinois State will. I think there is probably a three-fourths chance that Streveler plays. If he is already considered day to day I think by Saturday you see him trot out onto that field. He has improved to the point where his passing game is now good enough to keep defenses honest especially considering the increasing instances of the Coyotes going deep which I really like. Because of his improved passing that keeps defenses in a very bad situation not being able to cover his running and passing ability both. With Saeger defenses don't have to worry much about his feet. The Coyotes are much better off with Strev at this point and the main reason is his recent ability to not make the big mistake and his obvious ability to just destroy teams with his running. What I have seen from the New Mexico game til now is some significant improvements with this football team. They play better defense now then they did in the first 2 or 3 games. They are a bigger threat to pass the ball to keep teams honest then they were to start the season. The receiving core has really come on quite a bit in 6 games. I still don't see the Coyotes being at the level to beat SDSU or NDSU at this point but wouldn't it be cool if that last home game held more meaning then just finishing out on a positive note. If the Yotes take care of business during this two game home stand they will be sitting at 4-1 in the Valley and I know that is a very big assumption and I am not counting my chickens believe me but even if the Yotes lose to both Southern Illinois and SDSU they could still be 4-3 heading into the NDSU game. I would have to think with a win over the Bison that would vault the Coyotes to 5-3 in the Valley and coming off a season ending win against the defending champs. That would be a pretty solid resume to be considered a playoff team. As I said I don't think the Yotes will beat NDSU after last year but I would love to see them give it a hell of a try, and as they say "on any given saturday". As fans and hopefully as a team, don't be affraid to keep the eye on the prize. Of course it is a one game at a time senario but what is wrong with getting a little bit excited. |
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 18, 2016 5:55:41 GMT -6
Although score comparisons aren't always an indicator, there is one score that does sum it up. Illinois State beat Northwestern of the Big !0 that just beat Michigan State at Michigan State. That tells me all I need to know.
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Post by gopheryote on Oct 18, 2016 6:01:38 GMT -6
How is their record deceiving. In comparison USD comes out ahead when you compare the two. I can't believe I am actually elevating the Yotes football program so much but here goes. Kudos to coyotefan for shifting from NN to PP! Life is Good, right?  |
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Post by golfingyote on Oct 18, 2016 6:26:04 GMT -6
In my mind, this is our "easiest" game in the next 3. Although, Western looks to be about at the same level as well. Would be nice to see the Yotes finish a game in the 4th quarter instead of limping home. This is a must have if we want to make the playoff thread a real topic of conversation.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Oct 18, 2016 7:54:25 GMT -6
With the Purdue job open, the Illinois State HC's name is being floated out there as a possible candidate. Hopefully that is causing a few distractions with this team. Doubtful, but one can hope.
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Post by Yote 53 on Oct 18, 2016 8:12:44 GMT -6
Every game in this conference last week was within 4 points. The teams in this conference are very evenly matched and you will lose if you don't play well. Also, it is very difficult to win on the road in this conference. I predict a tight game with USD winning a close one. ISUr just does not have "it" this year whereas the Coyotes are finding ways to win. That is all the difference in this game.
On another note, how lucky is SDSU this week. YSU is a contending team yet the Jacks have the fortune to catch them at home with YSU down to their 3rd string QB. In this conference it is not only important who you play (unbalanced schedule) and where you play but also when you play a team (key injuries). I say all that and watch them lay an egg. That would be awesome.
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Post by gopheryote on Oct 18, 2016 8:42:34 GMT -6
College FB is cyclical - it is what makes the run NDSU has been on impressive, but it is also the thing that ensures its ending. Same thing has caught up to IllSU. For NDSU, I still suspect they will have at least 2 conference losses (I was blasted for saying that a few weeks ago), and still think 2 L's can win/tie the conference. Not entirely because the top got worse, but the cycle has come full circle.
Examples:
- NDSU is now in 3rd season without Bohl, and do not appear dominant either in scores/stats or the eye test (Oregon anyone?)
- IllSU had a great run with some exceptional talent, but replacing that level of talent...
- Current 1st place teams have flaws that many teams in the MVFC can exploit
- USD, after a 4 year transition, can compete with and beat the entire field (on a related note, UND is in 1st in BSC)
- MSU is very competitive this year
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Post by sdyotefan on Oct 18, 2016 9:41:24 GMT -6
To expand on gopheryote's point about NDSU--you don't replace a player of Carson Wentz's talent (2nd pick in NFL draft) very often or maybe never in NDSU's case. That fact by itself makes USD's win last year against Wentz and the bizon that much more impressive!!
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Post by goyotes24 on Oct 18, 2016 17:00:03 GMT -6
On another note, how lucky is SDSU this week. YSU is a contending team yet the Jacks have the fortune to catch them at home with YSU down to their 3rd string QB. Ricky Davis, YSU's first-string QB, expected to start against SDSU according to Youngstown media. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 18, 2016 18:07:35 GMT -6
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