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Post by bopelini on Nov 12, 2016 16:41:10 GMT -6
FYI ... the ESPN3 feed is working.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 12, 2016 16:42:16 GMT -6
Picked off, Wow. Coyotes at the State 38 yard line. Come on Yotes. Here is the chance. Come on.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 12, 2016 16:57:37 GMT -6
Jacks lead 28-21 with over 4:00 to go. I say if the Coyotes get a touchdown they should go for the 2 and the win. Jacks have an advantage in a overtime situation with a severely tired Coyote D and their taller wide outs will be at an advantage in red zone situations.
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Post by yotealum86 on Nov 12, 2016 17:17:05 GMT -6
Nice effort by the Coyotes, but not very smart on the last drive...you don't throw short passes down the middle with no time outs and less than a minute to play. Even without the interception the clock runs out. Just not very smart football at the end.
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Post by yotesfan1985 on Nov 12, 2016 17:17:21 GMT -6
Since Streveler short arms most short passes. Maybe we should put him at RB or WR and have one of our other QBs get the ball to him
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 12, 2016 17:33:12 GMT -6
Ok so it is a 28-21 loss and I think almost anyone whether you are a Jacks fans or Coyotes fan think the score was probably closer than it should have been. The Jacks out gained the Coyotes 630-353 and almost a 10 minutes advantage in time of possession. That is just too much to over come and that is why the Jacks dominated the game after the Bergner missed field goal midway through the 4th quarter. I think everyone can be proud that the Coyotes hung in there but no moral victories as the Jacks kicked the Coyotes butts man to man in this game. Over 400 yards rushing just shows that the lines on both sides of the ball are not what they need to be to be real conference contenders just yet.
So now it is 3 straight losses and a likely 4th in a row to end the season. As much progress as many people think the program has made the bottom line is win loss record and that has not improved from last year and is on the verge of actually being worse. The problem with this team is that they are not able to build on their momentum and that has been the matra of Coyote football for years. The Western Illinois loss will haunt this team all off season long. That was the key turning point. The Coyotes with as much good as they did at times stunted their own growth. The Yotes shut down their offense at half time of the WIU game and have never really recovered. I doubt with the Bison defense that next week will be a re breakout for that side of the ball.
So if the final record ends up being 4-7 and 3-5 should we be happy with that or not? I think there will definitely be a difference of opinion as far as how people will view this season in that case.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 12, 2016 17:37:12 GMT -6
Since Streveler short arms most short passes. Maybe we should put him at RB or WR and have one of our other QBs get the ball to him Streveler is the shiniest star on this team. The good he brings far out weighs the negatives. He deserves to be the guy for sure. He is going to be the man next year and deserves to be. What the Coyotes need is a lot of improvement on both the O and D lines. Once they get that they will be a very dangerous football team. Hopefully that happens by next year because I would hate to waste Streveler's senior year. I would think a 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy such as Glenn was that he would have left the program in better shape with the lines. |
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Post by yotesfan1985 on Nov 12, 2016 18:14:06 GMT -6
Nice jab at Glenn. If he was still the coach we would be looking at 7-4 minimum
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Post by golfingyote on Nov 12, 2016 18:33:59 GMT -6
Nice jab at Glenn. If he was still the coach we would be looking at 7-4 minimum Uhhhhh |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 12, 2016 18:39:32 GMT -6
Nice jab at Glenn. If he was still the coach we would be looking at 7-4 minimum It's a fair jab. Most people always argue that he left the program in much better shape then when he acquired it. The defense this year is basically worst in the conference and I don't think Glenn's offense would have been able to produce a better record considering how poor the lines are at this point. He would have tried to run through a brick wall. I don't really care who is coach I just want a winning record but maybe Glenn can be convinced to come out of retirement to get the program back on track again. Nielson actually went 6-18 in the Valley in his first 3 years with Western Illinois so the turnaround might take awhile. I don't think USD is in as bad of shape as Western was when he took over but I would say a playoff birth might take until 2018 or 2019 at the soonest. Many Coyote Fans will be ok as long as we have one winning record every ten years. The most important thing is that the coach is a nice guy. If that is the case everything else is secondary in importance. |
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Post by yoteswin on Nov 12, 2016 20:24:44 GMT -6
Since Streveler short arms most short passes. Maybe we should put him at RB or WR and have one of our other QBs get the ball to him Streveler is the shiniest star on this team. The good he brings far out weighs the negatives. He deserves to be the guy for sure. He is going to be the man next year and deserves to be. What the Coyotes need is a lot of improvement on both the O and D lines. Once they get that they will be a very dangerous football team. Hopefully that happens by next year because I would hate to waste Streveler's senior year. I would think a 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy such as Glenn was that he would have left the program in better shape with the lines. We have seen the big play ability of Streveler. He's a great athlete. Strong, fast, tough, and competitive... That being said, this was his junior season. Some facts to consider: -Streveler has been quarterback for eight games this year and he is 2-6 (!!) as such (he played the first half of the ISU game... but Saegar played the second half and ended up being the victor in OT). -In the the other two wins that comprise the 4-6 record, Streveler was not the quarterback for six of the eight quarters (Referring to the Illinois State win and the ISU game mentioned above, here). -Also, in the Weber State victory, if you recall, we were down by 21 points twice and the turning point of that game was the fourth and goal TD pass from Simmons that ignited what ended up being the comeback. -For all his upside, he has thrown nine interceptions and I believe lost four fumbles (there might have been five?). That's 13 turnovers... Four pick-sixes and two of the fumbles lead directly to touchdowns for the other team. -If you watch closely, pass after pass is off the mark or skipped into receivers... -Streveler has averaged nearly 90 yards a game RUSHING. Next year is his senior season. Streveler is a great athlete and needs to be on the field... But maybe there is a reason Minnesota wanted him on the field at a different position? If he winds up this year 2-7 as a starter in his junior year... Is it really wise to stick with him for next year as QB? It seems he has proven this season that he definitely should be on the field as much as possible... But perhaps the team is not provided their best chance of winning with him as QB. Big play rushing ability is exciting and eye catching, but is the current formula a winning one? Running back? Wide Receiver? I don't know, but it's food for thought. |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 12, 2016 20:38:53 GMT -6
I was really surprised this one was even close. We were outgained 630-353. If I saw that disparity going in I would have assumed it was a blowout.
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Post by Charlie on Nov 12, 2016 20:44:22 GMT -6
Streveler is the shiniest star on this team. The good he brings far out weighs the negatives. He deserves to be the guy for sure. He is going to be the man next year and deserves to be. What the Coyotes need is a lot of improvement on both the O and D lines. Once they get that they will be a very dangerous football team. Hopefully that happens by next year because I would hate to waste Streveler's senior year. I would think a 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy such as Glenn was that he would have left the program in better shape with the lines. We have seen the big play ability of Streveler. He's a great athlete. Strong, fast, tough, and competitive... That being said, this was his junior season. Some facts to consider: -Streveler has been quarterback for eight games this year and he is 2-6 (!!) as such (he played the first half of the ISU game... but Saegar played the second half and ended up being the victor in OT). -In the the other two wins that comprise the 4-6 record, Streveler was not the quarterback for six of the eight quarters (Referring to the Illinois State win and the ISU game mentioned above, here). -Also, in the Weber State victory, if you recall, we were down by 21 points twice and the turning point of that game was the fourth and goal TD pass from Simmons that ignited what ended up being the comeback. -For all his upside, he has thrown nine interceptions and I believe lost four fumbles (there might have been five?). That's 13 turnovers... Four pick-sixes and two of the fumbles lead directly to touchdowns for the other team. -If you watch closely, pass after pass is off the mark or skipped into receivers... -Streveler has averaged nearly 90 yards a game RUSHING. Next year is his senior season. Streveler is a great athlete and needs to be on the field... But maybe there is a reason Minnesota wanted him on the field at a different position? If he winds up this year 2-7 as a starter in his junior year... Is it really wise to stick with him for next year as QB? It seems he has proven this season that he definitely should be on the field as much as possible... But perhaps the team is not provided their best chance of winning with him as QB. Big play rushing ability is exciting and eye catching, but is the current formula a winning one? Running back? Wide Receiver? I don't know, but it's food for thought. Agreed. Streveler is one heck of an athlete but not a consistent enough passer in opinion. When he misses a few throws, helps mechanics seem to change and it looks like he is trying to aim his throws like he is throwing darts. He has made some amazing throws this year but misses the easy ones too often. |
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Post by sdyotefan on Nov 13, 2016 7:07:57 GMT -6
Thoughts on the game and season IMHO:
First the game-
I thought the spot of our early 4 and 1 attempt in reviewing the tape was bad! It appeared that with forward progress Strev got to at least the 34 and probably a little further which would have been a first down and yet the officials spotted the ball more where he was starting to get pushed back. That killed our drive and gave state a shorter field. I couldn't tell for sure if the spot was reviewed.
It really hurt to have 3 of our best defensive players out with injury! Just one example: If we could have had Tyson spying on Christion that might have helped with his speed and quickness.
Two very good FG kickers had a really bad day. I know it was windy and evidently swirling. I'd be interested to hear reaction from people who were at the game.
Really like Strev's athletic ability! Great dual threat and he'll only get better. It's interesting that he's better with longer more difficult throws. Just needs more consistency with his short to medium throws but he definitely needs to be on the field in some capacity!
Season thoughts (and some apply to this game too):
The OL and DLs need to get stronger. Hard now to consistently run the ball or stop the run.
Speaking of running we try to force the run at times. I know it's great to be diversified but as a Colt fan there are times you just have to throw the ball more and yes I know Luck is not the Coyote QB. More short throws, throws on 1st and 2nd down instead of predominately 3rd down, etc. The object is not to run the ball but to move the ball.
I REALLY APPRECIATE this coaching staff and Coyote team!!! They are working very hard, never give up and are always in close games with very tough opponents!! I think our schedule is 4th toughest in FCS and there's approx. 120+ teams in FCS!
This program is definitely moving in the right direction!!! As always I'm so PROUD to be a COYOTE FAN!!!
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Post by goyotes24 on Nov 13, 2016 9:31:35 GMT -6
Using Nielsen's first three seasons WIU as an indicator of success to his first three seasons here is probably the worst analysis I have ever seen. By that logic, Glenn should have won a National Championship with USD because he won one with Montana in his three seasons there. Nielsen improved this team in just one season, and a playoff run is certainly possible next year. .
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