2017 Season

[azsod73]

Aug 24, 2017 13:16:55 GMT -6 easmus said:

Lunch with U report. Sounds like Brett Samson may play just as much as Ramsey & Hale. Kicking down to James & Weese with Long likely a redshirt. Whitcomb and Johnson out for year with knee injuries. No one else mentioned as out for year. Around 9 true freshman expected to play, maybe more depending on injuries. Most of backups on OL true freshman. Sounds like Schultz and Jackson Coker to play on DL. Kai Henry mentioned as playing. Frederick starting RB, but Klett provides change of pace as 30 pounds bigger than Mike and Klett won 200m in high school if I heard Bob correct.

Drake's strength is their line play with several 5th years. So poses an interesting challenge for our squad.

Easmus has covered it well.

A couple things Nielson said that caught my attention:

Of the 44 man two-deep lineup, 20 will have never played for the Yotes before. Of course that "20" includes at least 3 transfers who have some experience at other schools. As noted, 9 true freshmen are expected to see action at some point. But that also means they will have 26 redshirting from this years freshmen class (total of 35 recruits). He also noted that about 95% of the team (including recruits) were in Vermillion for all or at least most of the summer. Strength and conditioning should be a plus.

Attendance at the luncheon was very good in my opinion.

[easmus]

Correct on the Coker mixup. Alex still at LB.

[coyotecrazie5]

Is there a depth chart out?

[Yotes]

Aug 25, 2017 16:22:58 GMT -6 coyotecrazie5 said:

Is there a depth chart out?

I thought we were supposed to get one today, but I can't find it in any of the places I'd expect (Twiiter or game notes page)

[gopheryote]

Sorry if this was addressed already somewhere else. I just read Zimmer's chat and he makes an obvious reference to a couple SDSU players getting caught with pot last year prior to their playoff game with NDSU. They were allowed to play in that game (apparently) and are now suspended for 6 games this year. Do I have that right?

I guess my question - and why I'm scratching my head - is why that isn't viewed as a REALLY BIG DEAL? A coaching staff buried a team/legal violation so key players could play in a playoff game. I don't care if you think the rule is dumb, that kind of thing can end coaching careers. Even SDSU fans should be upset.

What am I missing?

[coyotecrazie5]

State fans have already swept that under the rug. It's not USD so it's no big deal. There is some convo in the MVFC thread.

[sportschic]

Yes the depth chart is out. Look on Mick Garry's twitter page, he posted it.

[easmus]

Aug 30, 2017 12:01:51 GMT -6 gopheryote said:

Sorry if this was addressed already somewhere else. I just read Zimmer's chat and he makes an obvious reference to a couple SDSU players getting caught with pot last year prior to their playoff game with NDSU. They were allowed to play in that game (apparently) and are now suspended for 6 games this year. Do I have that right?

I guess my question - and why I'm scratching my head - is why that isn't viewed as a REALLY BIG DEAL? A coaching staff buried a team/legal violation so key players could play in a playoff game. I don't care if you think the rule is dumb, that kind of thing can end coaching careers. Even SDSU fans should be upset.

What am I missing?

Best part is they still got blown out in Fargo and are now out 6 games.

[Yote 53]

The story has been all over Bisonville as well. To sum it up, SDSU fans believe Stig runs a clean program and nothing unsavory would ever happen there. SDSU fans never mention the word "pot" but navigate around the issue by saying that the players needed to have their due process and the "hot piss" test needed to be reviewed. By that time the season was over, as we all know.

What WE all know is that the Argus is not going to press the SDSU football program on the issue and will, for lack of better term, be complicit in the cover-up.

[easmus]

Is it more likely though that the media don't want to be hot take artists because all they have to go on is hearsay and message board fodder? Violation of team rules is all they have to do with. Is Matt Zimmer an investigative reporter?

Maybe if SDSU beats the Bison in the playoffs the players are suspended the following week and they get blown out by James Madison. Would the suspension still be in effect for 5 games this season?

[gopheryote]

Sounds like there is a lot more than message board fodder on this one. Just not sure how this can fly at a state university in a high profile situation? I'm not saying they get the SMU treatment, but this was a real thing - if in doubt at game time, the players sit, just like any other program. Maybe we need Angela Kennicki (sp?)?

[coyotecrazie5]

There are a lot of loopholes. If you follow the FBS, most teams use them to their advantage not only including suspensions. I may be in the minority, but it doesn't really bother me what happened. I am guessing what they did was a legal move, but it is a little grey in the ethics category. The only thing that upsets me is the mindset State fans have where they will overlook this situation, but if it happened at USD we would never hear the end of it. Nelson appears to run a tighter ship seeing that Marchalo Judge could have served a 6 game suspension according to this. Is Judge fully off the team or out for 6 weeks? I have not seen him in any media coverage. We could definitely use him for depth on the secondary. If thats the case maybe Neilson can pick and choose when he serves his suspension.

[Deleted]

Aug 30, 2017 15:04:25 GMT -6 Yote 53 said:

The story has been all over Bisonville as well. To sum it up, SDSU fans believe Stig runs a clean program and nothing unsavory would ever happen there. SDSU fans never mention the word "pot" but navigate around the issue by saying that the players needed to have their due process and the "hot piss" test needed to be reviewed. By that time the season was over, as we all know.

What WE all know is that the Argus is not going to press the SDSU football program on the issue and will, for lack of better term, be complicit in the cover-up.

You have no idea what actually happened before the NDSU playoff game. Apparently there must have been some drug tests and some players tested positive before(or after) the game. The season ended in Fargo therefor the suspension carries to the following season just like what is happening at UCF right now. We don't know when the coaches found out the the tests came back positive. We all know that the players are suspended for the 1st 6 games of the season. Is it everyone's business to know why they are being suspended? They team broke team rules and Stig has came out and said that it will not be tolerated. If it those players do it again, I bet they are off the team. 

I also wouldn't believe everything you read on message boards. According to a poster on BV Dallas Goedert was in a boot with a calf injury. Zimmer cleaned up that rumor pretty fast once it was brought to his attention. 

You bitchiness towards SDSU is getting pretty sad. Keep on believing that USD football will be on par with SDSU football this year. 

[elcoyote]

Why are you here? You bring absolutely nothing to the table. Typical pompous, arrogant legend in his own mind. Weren't you the guy who was on here once telling us what a great high school basketball player you were? I remember because it was probably the saddest, most pathetic thing I'd ever read on a message board. Do you still wear your high school letter jacket around?

[Yotes]

Aug 30, 2017 19:41:45 GMT -6 @sandakotastate said:

Aug 30, 2017 15:04:25 GMT -6 Yote 53 said:

The story has been all over Bisonville as well. To sum it up, SDSU fans believe Stig runs a clean program and nothing unsavory would ever happen there. SDSU fans never mention the word "pot" but navigate around the issue by saying that the players needed to have their due process and the "hot piss" test needed to be reviewed. By that time the season was over, as we all know.

What WE all know is that the Argus is not going to press the SDSU football program on the issue and will, for lack of better term, be complicit in the cover-up.

You have no idea what actually happened before the NDSU playoff game. Apparently there must have been some drug tests and some players tested positive before(or after) the game. The season ended in Fargo therefor the suspension carries to the following season just like what is happening at UCF right now. We don't know when the coaches found out the the tests came back positive. We all know that the players are suspended for the 1st 6 games of the season. Is it everyone's business to know why they are being suspended? They team broke team rules and Stig has came out and said that it will not be tolerated. If it those players do it again, I bet they are off the team. 

I also wouldn't believe everything you read on message boards. According to a poster on BV Dallas Goedert was in a boot with a calf injury. Zimmer cleaned up that rumor pretty fast once it was brought to his attention. 

You bitchiness towards SDSU is getting pretty sad. Keep on believing that USD football will be on par with SDSU football this year. 

It's a sensitive subject for you, but don't respond so immaturely to largely respectful speculation on some damning reports.

No one is holding the coaches accountable, and they don't seem to care to eliminate any doubt (if they can). Convenient that it's been obscured when these tests took place and results came out.