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Post by guest on Feb 3, 2011 16:06:44 GMT -6
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 3, 2011 17:46:00 GMT -6
BREAKING NEWS: Daunte Warren did not have a good season and is not untouchable.
I find it amazing how many look at him as the absolute #1 without question. He had maybe 2 or 3 good games and at least as many very poor games. Mix some medicore games in there and the last thing we have is an untouchable quarterback. Where are the standards here and where is the logic. Warren was a big question mark coming into the season as to whether he could handle the job. He had a big game against Minnesota and maybe against UND but other than that he was mediocre bordering on horrible. He certainly wasn't the type of QB that led the team to a good win loss record which should be the ultimate measuring stick. I am not sure Warren was even a D1 recruit. It certainly was close either way. Shepard started halfway through his freshman year and should have started from day 1. It's nice to have loyalty and Ed probably has too much of it because we better expect better results than we had at the quarterback postion. Warren may have been one of the bigger reasons that Yotes didn't win more games, especially more close games. Warren had an all start receiving core and a decent O-Line as well. Warren had plenty of time to develop under Shepard so it's lot like he didn't have a chance to learn from the sidelines. I would really like to have someone logically explain to me why Warren regressed the more the season went on instead of sustaining or improving. I will tell you why because D-Coordinators adjusted to Warren but he and the coaching staff did not make counter adjustments. He didn't get the job done as a pocket passer and that is the bottom line.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Feb 3, 2011 18:36:03 GMT -6
Coyote Fan,
What you don't get is there is NO ONE to take over for him right now. Brandon Gorsuch was suppose to be that guy, but he transferred out! Wilhelm showed last year he isn't ready and has a LONG ways to go, and two true freshmen can't be expected to jump right in at this level, especially when I heard one of the kids talk last night, he definitely isn't ready.
Dante is the starter right now. Yes, his season wasn't all that great, but there is no one else right now who is ready to do a better job than what he did honestly. If there is, I am sure we will see it, but right now there isn't.
That's like saying Joe Webb was ready to take over for Brett Favre when Favre was healthy honestly. Dante is the guy, deal with it unless you can get Tate Forcier to transfer to USD.
It's not as simple as just saying, this guy should be replaced. There has to be someone to replace him.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 3, 2011 21:09:46 GMT -6
Why can't a freshman start? They are naturally behind the curve but plenty of freshman start anyway. Gorush wouldn't have been all that far ahead of a true freshman anyway. A trasfer quarterback still has to learn the system just like a freshman would. If a quarterback can start in the NFL right off the bat such as Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford than why can't a true freshman start in his first year in college. Noah Shepard practically started right off the bat and I think we would all agree that it's a good think Ed didn't wait any longer than he did to get Noah his reps.
My argument is, how do we know how these kids will do under game situations if they really never get a shot at it. Warren struggled and I would have liked to see Wilhelm get in before he was forced to. Ed raved about him pre-season. Was it just the coach giving out false hype. If Ed truley believed in the hype that he created than why wouldn't he allow that very player a chance?
Granted there is no way after the Minnesota game that Warren ever gets replaced but things changed and changed in a hurry. Is it fair to just assume that Minnesota was a real messed up team that was running around like their heads were cut off.
Next year is the last year that the Yotes are not eligible for post season. If Earl or Myers is the future I believe they need to be worked into the mix especially since Warren struggled a good part of the year. Wouldn't you rather see one of the newer QB's or both get some good reps in order for the Yotes to be better prepared when they do get into the MVFC in 2012. I know i would. It's not like the Yotes offense was firing on all cylinders either. When USD plays Missouri S&T and Lindenwood I would like to see what our young quarterbacks have in them. It would be a different story if the Yotes were on the cusp of a playoff birth or even eligible for post season but the fact is they are not. If Ed wants to go with the exact same starters that are returning this year once again that is his perogative afterall he is the coach, he gets paid to make the decisions. With that said he should also be the one to take the bullets if things don't work out and there were certainly plenty of games that didn't go so well.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Feb 4, 2011 1:28:43 GMT -6
I am pretty sure Noah was a redshirt freshman, am I correct on this? Also, yes, the Wilhelm stuff was coach speak. Ed also said London Landry and Mitch Mohr are NFL tight ends. How's that going? Maybe you should look at what Wilhelm did first in game action, because he has a WAYS to go. I think Myers is the smaller one right? Well he has a lot to learn after listening to his interview before he has the mentality to be a starting QB. There were red flags.
Honestly, Dante is almost untouchable unless a QB steps up BIG TIME, and by big time, look like an actual back-up instead of a third-string.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Feb 4, 2011 1:42:40 GMT -6
Seriously, Wilhelm had an efficiency of 30 for the one game he played in. Do you know how bad you have to be to have an efficiency of 30? It is somewhere between horrible and pathetic.
Like I said, unless USD gets a transfer, there is no one capable of pushing Dante right now. Oh, I looked it up, Noah was a redshirt, so he didn't come in right away, even he sat as a freshman.
Plus Dante had an efficiency of 133, not too far behind Noah's 145-148's he put up during his career. What do you have against Dante? Yes, he had some bad games, but most of the time a lot was asked to him, and the offense needs to be more fluid as well. Dante also had some good games. It was a mix out of a first-year starter.
Look throughout the history of football and how many first year guys come in right away to lead a team to a championship or start and the team sees crazy good success? First round draft picks, and USD isn't getting one of those soon. Let's just relax a bit and start thinking realistically on this one.
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Post by Yote 53 on Feb 4, 2011 6:51:25 GMT -6
To waist a redshirt this season on any of the true freshman coming in would be a mistake IMO. The team is already young as it is, by starting a true freshman in any position you are telling the freshman and sophomores ahead of them to transfer. Sorry, but we also need depth.
QB is a totally different deal too. It's not like coming in and starting at strong safety. There is a lot to learn.
#1 was also right when he said Dante wasn't getting a lot of help. The Oline needs to get the running game going a little more and that will help Dante alot. I saw flashes of brilliance out of Dante last year. He needs to work on consistency. Most QB's develop that between year 1 and year 2 of starting.
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Post by yotemeal on Feb 4, 2011 8:59:19 GMT -6
Without directing my comments toward any post in particular, I would just emphasize how lucky we are to be losing only five seniors. Physical development, maturity, mechanics, decision making, etc....those things all continually develop throughout a collegiate career. It's not like we're evaluating the going potential of some 8th year pro. Dante had some let down moments last season - no doubt. But he also had some great moments in his first year as a starter. I'm glad to have him back and I'm hopeful our very veteran team rewards us for our patience.
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Post by pierreyote on Feb 4, 2011 11:04:16 GMT -6
I concur with Yotemeal. No doubt things can and should get better with all of our teams but I am damn proud they represent USD on the athletic field. I have faith the coaches and student/athletes are working hard to improve, compete and win games that may have gotten away from last year.
Go yotes
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Post by Yote 53 on Feb 4, 2011 14:50:44 GMT -6
USDLaw posted this in his Recent Article thread. I thought it should also be reposted here. A very good article on Derek Chancellor. Gives some insight on his recruiting process and what made him decide to become a Yote. It boils down to USD being the right fit. Interesting he had offers from SDSU and UND but chose USD based on academics and location. There is no doubt in my mind he dreamed of playing in Lincoln, that's every Nebraska boys dream, but I think he'll find his experience in Vermillion special as well. www.mccookgazette.com/story/1700440.html
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