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Post by gopheryote on Oct 19, 2017 10:52:46 GMT -6
PREDICTION THURSDAY! (moving it up a day this week - busy Friday)
USD 47 ISU 16
I think it will follow a similar script to the other ISU - slow/tight Q1 (ISU at home for homecoming, etc.), then separation in a spurt. And I agree with division5bound - if the weather holds up, we will increase our average yards per game (partially because first team O will play almost the entire game).
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Post by MD on Oct 19, 2017 10:54:29 GMT -6
The Illinois State fans sure are looking confident considering their team just had consecutive embarrassments against unranked teams. It's their homecoming though, no one wants to believe they can lose on homecoming. Kolbe has 3 INTs in each of the past two games for Illinois State. Puzzling, since he only had 7 in 12 games last year. They shouldn't have any breathing room to continue those mistakes. We really haven't taken the ball away from our opponents much this year though, just 9 times on the year. I'm guessing we pick Kolbe off once, maybe twice, and take care of the ball ourselves. Keep winning the TO battle, keep winning games. More than half way through the season and it seems like fans of other MVFC are still underestimating us, or else they're in denial that the Coyotes are for real. Fine with me. Keep taking USD for granted. Still a lot of football to be played, but I don't think we're going away. I think more than a few people are in denial about what is happening with this team. I can't tell you how many people I've talked to that really think this is all just a 'fluke'. While I certainly don't subscribe to that, I do find myself looking back at the past 5-10 years and recalling so many close games that shouldn't have been and losses that should not have been. I thought last weeks spread of -27 was too much. It just felt like one of those games we let them hang around all day. But this isn't the pre 2017 Yotes, this team appears to be, at least to this point, quite different, and maybe very special indeed. |
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Post by elcoyote on Oct 19, 2017 11:24:02 GMT -6
More than half way through the season and it seems like fans of other MVFC are still underestimating us, or else they're in denial that the Coyotes are for real. Fine with me. Keep taking USD for granted. Still a lot of football to be played, but I don't think we're going away. I think more than a few people are in denial about what is happening with this team. I can't tell you how many people I've talked to that really think this is all just a 'fluke'. While I certainly don't subscribe to that, I do find myself looking back at the past 5-10 years and recalling so many close games that shouldn't have been and losses that should not have been. I thought last weeks spread of -27 was too much. It just felt like one of those games we let them hang around all day. But this isn't the pre 2017 Yotes, this team appears to be, at least to this point, quite different, and maybe very special indeed. The people that you've talked to who think this is all a "fluke" are most likely bunny people who are really wanting the Coyotes to fall on their collective faces and are praying for Streveler to get hurt. We're solid this year and it looks like we're going to be solid and establish ourselves as a contender in the MVFC for at least the next few years. This conference was tough enough without USD tossing its hat into the ring and I think that's upsetting some of the traditional powers. Doesn't seem to bother NDSU though. They seem to relish the competition. I'm not taking anything for granted, conference is just too tough and there are too many nailbiter games that can affect conference win/loss records, look at YSU this season, but, bottom line, make the playoffs and go from there. |
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Post by MD on Oct 19, 2017 11:42:34 GMT -6
"Fluke" was a bad word, "shock" is perhaps better.
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Post by Yote 53 on Oct 19, 2017 12:48:51 GMT -6
I think the rest of the MVFC is in shock and are attributing this all to Strev, that he is the entire team, and if he goes down that will be the end of the Yotes. From everything that I have seen the one fan base that, for the most part, doesn't have that view is NDSU. The interesting part is that they are not upset about the increased competition and actually relish it, especially the old timers who remember when USD was really good and competing with NDSU for the conference and in a National Title game. I guess that is the attitude that has made that program what it is. NDSU fans also seemed to notice the Coyotes rising. Last season I was in Grand Forks during the USD/NDSU game and had to watch the local NDSU broadcast of the game. The announcers were even saying that NDSU fortunately escaped that game and that the USD program was one to watch for the future. Pre-season there were several Bison posters online who were saying that USD was going to surprise people. I guess they would know because they have seen the excellence in their own program and recognize it when they see it in others.
Back to Strev, for the most part the rest of FCS is saying that he is this team. They couldn't be more wrong. This program is solid and is building more depth and getting better everyday. The offense is also going to be in fine hands as the QB's on the roster, Simmons being the first in line, are pretty dang good in their own right. I got news for the rest of the Valley, the Coyotes have arrived and are here to stay. Not saying we are world beaters and aren't capable of dropping a few games this year. Just saying that the "pushover" Coyotes are gone and we're going to be a fixture in the conference picture for the foreseeable future.
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Post by elcoyote on Oct 19, 2017 13:06:14 GMT -6
I think the rest of the MVFC is in shock and are attributing this all to Strev, that he is the entire team, and if he goes down that will be the end of the Yotes. From everything that I have seen the one fan base that, for the most part, doesn't have that view is NDSU. The interesting part is that they are not upset about the increased competition and actually relish it, especially the old timers who remember when USD was really good and competing with NDSU for the conference and in a National Title game. I guess that is the attitude that has made that program what it is. NDSU fans also seemed to notice the Coyotes rising. Last season I was in Grand Forks during the USD/NDSU game and had to watch the local NDSU broadcast of the game. The announcers were even saying that NDSU fortunately escaped that game and that the USD program was one to watch for the future. Pre-season there were several Bison posters online who were saying that USD was going to surprise people. I guess they would know because they have seen the excellence in their own program and recognize it when they see it in others. Back to Strev, for the most part the rest of FCS is saying that he is this team. They couldn't be more wrong. This program is solid and is building more depth and getting better everyday. The offense is also going to be in fine hands as the QB's on the roster, Simmons being the first in line, are pretty dang good in their own right. I got news for the rest of the Valley, the Coyotes have arrived and are here to stay. Not saying we are world beaters and aren't capable of dropping a few games this year. Just saying that the "pushover" Coyotes are gone and we're going to be a fixture in the conference picture for the foreseeable future. Outstanding post! You hit the nail squarely on the head. |
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Post by Yotes on Oct 19, 2017 13:28:56 GMT -6
The notion that we are just Streveler is so ridiculous. He adds a dimension to the offense, but we aren't going to fall off a cliff if he gets injured. Simmons started and won a game against a playoff team as a freshman last year (Illinois State is actually the one MVFC team we play this year who hasn't seen Streveler before). The rest of the FCS will get to know Simmons and that cannon of his in due time. Perhaps then it will be more accepted that the Yotes mean business.
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Post by Yote 53 on Oct 19, 2017 13:31:13 GMT -6
It's easy to hit that nail if you pay attention and just watch what is going on. It's the same thing that tells me that UND football is in serious trouble. I don't know how they won all those games last year, my guess is the Big Sky is just that weak. USD should have throttled them last season but let them in the game and let the win escape, and we weren't even that good last year. Last year's Coyote team was still learning, this year's Coyote team learned the lessons and is finishing the job.
Why I say UND is in trouble is the eye test. I've watched teams come in and out of the Dome for decades now. UND is weak, undersized, and not athletic enough. Just got pushed around. It did not look like a MVFC team, and they are going to have issues if they don't fix that before they arrive in the conference. Of course their fans are in denial. Thing is, we've been there, we've went through the building process in this conference. It is a different animal. It is a grind. I thought the same thing coming out of the Great West, that we would be fine in the MVFC because we were competing with UND, Poly, and Davis. I was wrong. I guess they are just going to have to learn it for themselves.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 19, 2017 14:02:43 GMT -6
prior to the Nielson era the coyotes were about a .500 program outside the conference so it wasn't just the conference factor that was relevant. they were as mediocre as can be. about the halfway point of FCS. Now outside the top 10 non MVFC programs the Yotes wouldn't only win but would blow out the rest of this sub division. there is a big difference between the bottom, middle, top and elite programs. The Yotes have entered that elite status at least for the time being.
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Post by yotefbfan on Oct 19, 2017 14:03:17 GMT -6
I think more than a few people are in denial about what is happening with this team. I can't tell you how many people I've talked to that really think this is all just a 'fluke'. While I certainly don't subscribe to that, I do find myself looking back at the past 5-10 years and recalling so many close games that shouldn't have been and losses that should not have been. I thought last weeks spread of -27 was too much. It just felt like one of those games we let them hang around all day. But this isn't the pre 2017 Yotes, this team appears to be, at least to this point, quite different, and maybe very special indeed. The people that you've talked to who think this is all a "fluke" are most likely bunny people who are really wanting the Coyotes to fall on their collective faces and are praying for Streveler to get hurt. We're solid this year and it looks like we're going to be solid and establish ourselves as a contender in the MVFC for at least the next few years. This conference was tough enough without USD tossing its hat into the ring and I think that's upsetting some of the traditional powers. Doesn't seem to bother NDSU though. They seem to relish the competition. I'm not taking anything for granted, conference is just too tough and there are too many nailbiter games that can affect conference win/loss records, look at YSU this season, but, bottom line, make the playoffs and go from there. Great point, good teams do not shy away from competition but instead know that the competition only makes them better and prepares a team for a championship run! There is a reason why NDSU has all those championships and I like this staff seems to follow that pattern of taking on great competition to makes us better! USD is for real and will be a contender for years to come! |
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Post by aldewitt on Oct 19, 2017 14:11:57 GMT -6
Thats one sign of a good young team: letting one slip away and getting it back the following season. It almost seems like a team has to learn how to win. The Yotes let a couple of them slip away last year, but not this year. Those same teams met a more mature Coyote team that had learned some lessons about winning.
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Post by bt71 on Oct 19, 2017 20:56:39 GMT -6
From the ISU site...
Defensively ... Tilting scale our way is we generally, we do well containing dual threat QBs, especially ones who run mroe than they pass. And our front 7 is very good. Streveler only runs a 4.7 forty, but feels pocket pressure and see field very well .. so while a good athlete, he looks more elusive than he is .. point being, he is no Tre Roberson running ball, but btter at read option and improvising. He is also not a pure passer by any means, but knows how to stay out of trouble with pass versus run decisions.
Not really giving Streveler much credit here. Apparently, this guy has not seen him out run just about everyone on the field, pretty sure he’s faster than 4.7. And he looks more elusive than he is? SO it’s an illusion on how he’s one of the top rushers in the MVFC? Looks like some billboard material here.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 19, 2017 23:37:38 GMT -6
I read that same message on the Red Birds board. This guy has no idea what he is talking about. He probably doesn't even realize that the Red Birds will be taking on the best FCS player on the planet if the voting were to take place today. If 17 touchdowns (25 total) with no interceptions and deadly accuracy is not a pure quarterback then I don't want a pure quarterback. Maybe Illinois State should stack 8 in the box and we will figure out how pure of a quarterback Streveler is with his arm.
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Post by easmus on Oct 20, 2017 9:04:38 GMT -6
Just checked the forecast. Temp is good at 76, but 15-25 mph winds scares me a little.
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Post by gopheryote on Oct 20, 2017 11:07:09 GMT -6
Just checked the forecast. Temp is good at 76, but 15-25 mph winds scares me a little. What does ISU do well on O? Run, pass, both, neither? |
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