obc
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Post by obc on Oct 20, 2017 11:15:06 GMT -6
Just checked the forecast. Temp is good at 76, but 15-25 mph winds scares me a little. The forecasted strong winds also make me nervous - will give ISU an excuse when their QB throws three picks and USD beats them even worse. In all seriousness, I expect ISU to give USD a good game. They are young up front and it has been a source of some of their problems. As we know from our own team though, young players can get good in a hurry and I would guess their freshman and sophs are getting better each week. For what it is worth, this is the second week in a row that our DEs will face a 6’10” OT. These kids just keep getting bigger. Go Yotes! USD 35 ISU 27 |
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Oct 20, 2017 11:24:16 GMT -6
Just checked the forecast. Temp is good at 76, but 15-25 mph winds scares me a little. What does ISU do well on O? Run, pass, both, neither? Neither there OLine maybe the worst in the league. |
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Post by aldewitt on Oct 20, 2017 14:33:45 GMT -6
The relationship between the rushing offenses is in Illinois States favor. They can expect about 60% of their normal rushing production. On the other hand USD can only expect about 20% of it's rushing game. To put it another way the relationship between the rushing offenses and rushing defenses favors Illinois State in this game.
USD can expect about 50% or so of it's normal passing day while Illinois State can expect 88% of their normal passing day. To put it another way the relationship between the passing offenses and passing defenses favors Illinois State.
Overall offensive production is in favor of USD and provides a slight 2 point edge.
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Post by gopheryote on Oct 20, 2017 14:43:52 GMT -6
The relationship between the rushing offenses is in Illinois States favor. They can expect about 60% of their normal rushing production. On the other hand USD can only expect about 20% of it's rushing game. To put it another way the relationship between the rushing offenses and rushing defenses favors Illinois State in this game. USD can expect about 50% or so of it's normal passing day while Illinois State can expect 88% of their normal passing day. To put it another way the relationship between the passing offenses and passing defenses favors Illinois State. Overall offensive production is in favor of USD and provides a slight 2 point edge. Ummm. Computer models are fun, but you are expecting a total rushing day of 47 yards and a total passing day of 164 (total yards of 211 on the day)? That is less than what they average for the first half. And that is coming on the heels of SIU putting up 549 on them last week? Not sure I'm buying this one.  |
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Post by Yotes on Oct 20, 2017 16:15:25 GMT -6
The relationship between the rushing offenses is in Illinois States favor. They can expect about 60% of their normal rushing production. On the other hand USD can only expect about 20% of it's rushing game. To put it another way the relationship between the rushing offenses and rushing defenses favors Illinois State in this game. USD can expect about 50% or so of it's normal passing day while Illinois State can expect 88% of their normal passing day. To put it another way the relationship between the passing offenses and passing defenses favors Illinois State. Overall offensive production is in favor of USD and provides a slight 2 point edge. Ummm. Computer models are fun, but you are expecting a total rushing day of 47 yards and a total passing day of 164 (total yards of 211 on the day)? That is less than what they average for the first half. And that is coming on the heels of SIU putting up 549 on them last week? Not sure I'm buying this one. Maybe he means only ___% is guaranteed by the model? I don't get it either. |
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Post by easmus on Oct 20, 2017 16:15:48 GMT -6
I’m hoping that what our offense was able to do against YSU will be a barometer for the future.
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 20, 2017 16:35:19 GMT -6
Let's be honest, this team is built for speed in more than one way. Speed on the field at skill positions, speed in running plays, etc. To utilize speed you throw the ball a good share of the time, and of we are throwing into brisk winds, that cuts out a fair number of plays for 2 quarters. That may or may not affect our performance. A windy game situation definitely favors a team more geared towards running. I think Illinois State is better than most of you think despite what's happened the past 2 weeks. If they aren't, and we play just normal ball we win this somewhat easily. If not, it's another 4 quarter fist fight. I'm expecting the fist fight.
I'm in Macomb now waiting for the volleyball match to start then heading to Normal. Just talked to a Leatherneck fan here and he told me the game tomorrow is nearly sold out. Homecoming as well. Oh well, let's play the game and come back to Vermillion 7-0. Go Yotes
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 20, 2017 18:21:10 GMT -6
The relationship between the rushing offenses is in Illinois States favor. They can expect about 60% of their normal rushing production. On the other hand USD can only expect about 20% of it's rushing game. To put it another way the relationship between the rushing offenses and rushing defenses favors Illinois State in this game. USD can expect about 50% or so of it's normal passing day while Illinois State can expect 88% of their normal passing day. To put it another way the relationship between the passing offenses and passing defenses favors Illinois State. Overall offensive production is in favor of USD and provides a slight 2 point edge. I am guessing that Illinois State has played a weaker schedule then the Coyotes so far so I wonder how that is figured in on it. I am sorry but USD's offense is not even on the same level as Illinois State. I believe Illinois State has played Missouri State, Indiana State and Southern Illinois so far who most would consider the three weakest teams in the conference and for sure teams that don't have very good defenses at all. I am guessing the Coyotes non conference schedule was tougher as well. The only reason USD would only get to half of their expected passing is because of the wind more so then anything. There is no way that the Coyotes will only get to 20% of their normal rushing game. I would be my entire fortune on that. Illinois struggled with an Indiana State team that the Coyotes made look like a NAIA club. For this week that computer must have had a few wires crossed. |
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Post by thebacksackdad on Oct 20, 2017 19:24:56 GMT -6
Ummm. Computer models are fun, but you are expecting a total rushing day of 47 yards and a total passing day of 164 (total yards of 211 on the day)? That is less than what they average for the first half. And that is coming on the heels of SIU putting up 549 on them last week? Not sure I'm buying this one. Maybe he means only ___% is guaranteed by the model? I don't get it either. |
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Post by thebacksackdad on Oct 20, 2017 19:30:12 GMT -6
Maybe he means only ___% is guaranteed by the model? I don't get it either. Sorry about that... I'll get it right by the end of the season... anyways... If OSU runs it right you the middle as much as the can...Strevelor will be Strevelor and our backups get more reps in a 56 to 0 game. However...i think they learn early that there isn't going to be anything happening up the middle and the game ends up 56 to 6. |
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Post by aldewitt on Oct 20, 2017 19:36:53 GMT -6
Those percentages don't apply on a linear relationship like you are using them gopheryote. What they do show is the relative strength of one to the other. ISU has a better chance of stopping the USD running game than vice versa. Same with the passing game.
The USD edge comes from their offensive output. It is much greater than ISUs.
The strength of schedule may come into play and prove those predicting a big USD win right. I think ISU is a good team, a playoff contender, and has a good chance of living up to its statistics, so to speak.
I also think if Illinois doesn't right their ship and isn't competitive like some think, their season is done. It may be over now and the stuffing may be out of them but I'm waiting for Saturday to see.
I still think USD is a 2 point favorite. There are a lot of USD fans that think they will cover that spread easily.
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Post by thebacksackdad on Oct 20, 2017 19:57:52 GMT -6
Those percentages don't apply on a linear relationship like you are using them gopheryote. What they do show is the relative strength of one to the other. ISU has a better chance of stopping the USD running game than vice versa. Same with the passing game. The USD edge comes from their offensive output. It is much greater than ISUs. The strength of schedule may come into play and prove those predicting a big USD win right. I think ISU is a good team, a playoff contender, and has a good chance of living up to its statistics, so to speak. I also think if Illinois doesn't right their ship and isn't competitive like some think, their season is done. It may be over now and the stuffing may be out of them but I'm waiting for Saturday to see. I still think USD is a 2 point favorite. There are a lot of USD fans that think they will cover that spread easily. Oh ya!!!  |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 20, 2017 21:32:10 GMT -6
If you look at the schedules both teams have played there is a big difference which effects the type of stats that both teams were able to put up to date.
vs Butler
at E Illinois
at Missouri State
vs Indiana State
at N Arizona
at S Illinois
Not really much for defenses that Illinois State has faced so far. Both teams hosted the Sycamores and guess which team won 24-13 and which team won 56-6. These schedules are not very close at all. I don't need to post the Coyotes schedule as everyone reading this knows it for the most part. This is a must win game for Illinois State tomorrow. Their schedule is very tough from here on out so I don't think they will recover with a loss to the Coyotes.
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Post by thebacksackdad on Oct 20, 2017 21:49:10 GMT -6
I AM SOO PUMPED AGAIN!!! GO COYOTES!!! Ready for bed and leaving tomorrow morning for the 3 hour drive. Let's go boys!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHHHoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by thebacksackdad on Oct 20, 2017 21:51:30 GMT -6
I AM SOO PUMPED AGAIN!!! GO COYOTES!!! Ready for bed and leaving tomorrow morning for the 3 hour drive. Let's go boys!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHHHoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAA....AAAAAAAAAAAA...AAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooo.....AAAAAAAAAAAA..............hhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooo.............AAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooo...AAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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