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Post by usdcoyote on Oct 31, 2017 11:33:31 GMT -6
I wonder what this does mean for Harris. Sounds like he's not being charged criminally for anything, but he did have premarital sex, so maybe he will remain suspended. If Rambo snuck his finger in there without her knowing and without her consent then the forcible rape that he's charged with probably doesn't fit, however he probably is looking at Unlawful Sexual Contact, a misdemeanor. That would still be enough to end things for him here. Now obviously we have yet to hear all the details. Maybe it will turn out he used force or threats thereby making him guilty of the rape, maybe it will turn out he felt he had consent. Who knows. From a team perspective it appears the only question still up in the air is what the team is going to do with Harris.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 31, 2017 12:31:53 GMT -6
Rambo and Williamson will not play again after reading that. Harris' situation is weird to me, don't know what to think there. It is a weird situation. What he did probably wasn't criminal, but I don't think you can play a guy who was present for charges of both 2nd degree rape and attempted 2nd degree rape. If the victim alleges Rambo and Williamson entered the room without her noticing, then perhaps Harris could say the same? I don't want to speculate much on what happened that night. I'm sure Nielson will play it safe and not play Harris again. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 31, 2017 13:59:22 GMT -6
I would consider the inserting of fingers without consent in the same realm as some one raping some one that is unconscious. either act is performed without consent and without the person knowing about it until after it happened. i am no law student but to me that would constitute forcable rape.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Oct 31, 2017 14:54:07 GMT -6
I would strongly suggest that all speculation on this subject stop. Somebody is going to say something careless and all hell is going to break out.
The police, the University and the team will handle this situation appropriately. There is no need for a bunch of anonymous discussion on a public message board.
That is my personal opinion. I am not suggesting that the mods censor anything. I am suggesting that folks on here consider censoring themselves, however.
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Post by olifer on Oct 31, 2017 15:11:18 GMT -6
I would strongly suggest that all speculation on this subject stop. Somebody is going to say something careless and all hell is going to break out. The police, the University and the team will handle this situation appropriately. There is no need for a bunch of anonymous discussion on a public message board. That is my personal opinion. I am not suggesting that the mods censor anything. I am suggesting that folks on here consider censoring themselves, however. Well Said. |
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Post by bt71 on Oct 31, 2017 15:22:15 GMT -6
I would strongly suggest that all speculation on this subject stop. Somebody is going to say something careless and all hell is going to break out. The police, the University and the team will handle this situation appropriately. There is no need for a bunch of anonymous discussion on a public message board. That is my personal opinion. I am not suggesting that the mods censor anything. I am suggesting that folks on here consider censoring themselves, however. Well Said. Amen! There is nothing productive coming from this conversation. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 31, 2017 17:04:48 GMT -6
If someone is bothered by this then don't click the topic. No one is ever forced to read anything and no one should be forced not to read either. It's called America. Every media outlook is all over this story so why on the Coyote message board should we not talk about it. Actually they are interviewing students right now on KELO TV and they are talking about it as well. I prefer not to sweep things under the rug just because they are unpleasant to talk about. I don't think anyone is pulling info out of their asses but instead commenting based on what has already been reported.
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 31, 2017 17:12:07 GMT -6
I would strongly suggest that all speculation on this subject stop. Somebody is going to say something careless and all hell is going to break out. The police, the University and the team will handle this situation appropriately. There is no need for a bunch of anonymous discussion on a public message board. That is my personal opinion. I am not suggesting that the mods censor anything. I am suggesting that folks on here consider censoring themselves, however. This |
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 31, 2017 17:12:23 GMT -6
If someone is bothered by this then don't click the topic. No one is ever forced to read anything and no one should be forced not to read either. It's called America. Every media outlook is all over this story so why on the Coyote message board should we not talk about it. Actually they are interviewing students right now on KELO TV and they are talking about it as well. I prefer not to sweep things under the rug just because they are unpleasant to talk about. I don't think anyone is pulling info out of their asses but instead commenting based on what has already been reported. Not this |
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Post by Yotes on Oct 31, 2017 17:16:21 GMT -6
No one is telling you to stop. Someone is telling you it would be very wise not to speculate. Sexual assault is an incredibly sensitive subject and just one misspoken word, even if it had no negative intent, is enough to turn the conversation into a nightmare.
I'm seeing it on my Facebook right now as people try to discuss this topic and it instantly devolves into a shit show. Please don't let this place be like Facebook.
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Post by yotesfan1985 on Oct 31, 2017 18:03:52 GMT -6
I'm taking a hard line on this. I really don't want to see them in a USD uniform again. I could give a damn if they "hold resentment" against the school. I hold resentment against them for putting the team and university in this light. We don't need this sort of stench surrounding the program; there're too many good kids on the team. They made their choices and they can deal with the result. If they're found guilty they'll have to deal with the consequences and if exonerated there will be another university where they can continue their education, which should be their priority anyway, and maybe play some ball. I also think that the university is doing a good job in its handling of this situation so far. They're taking it seriously and not trying to sweep it under the rug like an FSU. +1on this comment |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 31, 2017 18:29:33 GMT -6
If someone is bothered by this then don't click the topic. No one is ever forced to read anything and no one should be forced not to read either. It's called America. Every media outlook is all over this story so why on the Coyote message board should we not talk about it. Actually they are interviewing students right now on KELO TV and they are talking about it as well. I prefer not to sweep things under the rug just because they are unpleasant to talk about. I don't think anyone is pulling info out of their asses but instead commenting based on what has already been reported. Not this yoteforever taking sides with Cousin Eddie again, Shocker |
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Post by jackjd on Oct 31, 2017 18:59:31 GMT -6
yoteforever taking sides with Cousin Eddie again, Shocker Reasonable people do that. You can learn from that. |
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Post by Yotes on Oct 31, 2017 18:59:39 GMT -6
yoteforever taking sides with Cousin Eddie again, Shocker Everyone seems to agree with his statement. It's a wise one. |
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Post by usdcoyote on Oct 31, 2017 19:04:53 GMT -6
If someone is bothered by this then don't click the topic. No one is ever forced to read anything and no one should be forced not to read either. It's called America. Every media outlook is all over this story so why on the Coyote message board should we not talk about it. Actually they are interviewing students right now on KELO TV and they are talking about it as well. I prefer not to sweep things under the rug just because they are unpleasant to talk about. I don't think anyone is pulling info out of their asses but instead commenting based on what has already been reported. Couldn't agree with this more. If you don't want to talk about it stay out of the thread, it's not hard. To your other point coyotefan forcible rape needs force, threats of harm, or coercion, not sure where it would fit in if the finger was put in without her knowing. I realize most want nothing to do with this topic so I don't expect any replies from those people. |
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