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Post by kiyoat on Nov 3, 2017 5:47:46 GMT -6
Northern AZ jumped from 16/18 to #9? Wow.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 3, 2017 7:11:28 GMT -6
5 is what I was hoping for. I wanted to see that the committee has full recognition of USD in our first year as a contender. Now we just gotta win out and probably get that 2 seed for home field advantage.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 3, 2017 7:42:22 GMT -6
Lets see if Saban is saying that if he drops a game before the end of the regular season and winning the SEC title game still is not enough to get them in. He's a good talker. I think he is a little more than a good talker. His teams have won consistently and he may go down as the greatest CFB coach ever. I agree with you. I'm not sure I ever said he wasn't. Simply that he is a good talker. One more piece of the Saban puzzle that makes him a great coach is his press conferences stating how he doesn't care about rankings, calling press "rat poison" etc. He benefits from the SEC being like the MVFC right now. When that changes and the rankings/high praise do not work in his favor he wont say the same thing. |
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Post by usdtator on Nov 5, 2017 8:08:31 GMT -6
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 5, 2017 8:26:50 GMT -6
I saw this as well, but the problem ( in my opinion ) with the analogy is that they have NDSU, SDSU, and USD as hosting, but I have to believe UNI wins out and finishes the league at 6-2, with wins over both SDSU and USD. The committee has to take that into consideration. I think the Coyotes have to win out to host. Certainly they have to beat SDSU.
The loss yesterday hurt a lot, but wasn't crippling. The only good news I see coming out of this is the fact that we now fall back into the role of the "hunter" instead of the "hunted". Sportschic properly identified the fact that Chris's running game has changed, and I also believe it's because he's banged up. If he's 100% I think the playbook is opened back up. If not, then somehow we have to get wins solely on his arm. And that's not awful...34/51 for 401 yards yesterday. Not bad.
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Post by easmus on Nov 5, 2017 13:46:15 GMT -6
I fear finishing 7-4 and losing out on a tiebreaker with UNI and getting left out. Go from #5 in initial rankings to out would be an unceremonious drop, and I hope doesn’t happen.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 5, 2017 14:40:02 GMT -6
Think about this for a moment. The Coyotes could go from a team that is a top 4 seed (potentially top 2) to a team that completely misses out on the playoffs all together. If the Coyotes beat NDSU and SDSU they would win a co conference title have beaten both other teams that would be tied with them and would be 9-2 with a 6-2 Valley record and would be hot. If they lose both games they would finish the season 1-4 with very few quality wins including losing to every team that is now currently above .500 in the Valley. Technically the Coyotes still do have their goals in their control but they now have to do it the extreme hard way.
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Post by gopheryote on Nov 5, 2017 16:04:36 GMT -6
Think about this for a moment. The Coyotes could go from a team that is a top 4 seed (potentially top 2) to a team that completely misses out on the playoffs all together. If the Coyotes beat NDSU and SDSU they would win a co conference title have beaten both other teams that would be tied with them and would be 9-2 with a 6-2 Valley record and would be hot. If they lose both games they would finish the season 1-4 with very few quality wins including losing to every team that is now currently above .500 in the Valley. Technically the Coyotes still do have their goals in their control but they now have to do it the extreme hard way. Or there is the much more reasonable win 1 lose 1. |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 5, 2017 18:29:05 GMT -6
I fear finishing 7-4 and losing out on a tiebreaker with UNI and getting left out. Go from #5 in initial rankings to out would be an unceremonious drop, and I hope doesn’t happen. Considering that 6-5 teams have made it from the MVFC the past two years, I'm pretty sure we are in the playoffs for sure at 7-4 (especially with an FBS win). The committee clearly thinks highly of our wins if they had us at #5 before UNI. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 5, 2017 19:13:07 GMT -6
At one point in time 7-4 was kind of the mark to all but clinch a playoff spot. Now the big word in that is "But". Here is a senario where the Coyotes could be in trouble.
NDSU is already in with 8 wins
SDSU is likely in with 7 wins with the win over NDSU but just needs one more to be sure
Illinois state would get to 7 wins with a win at SDSU or home vs NDSU
Western Illinois is at Indiana State and vs SIU and would get to 8 wins in that case
UNI is at Missouri State and vs Indiana State and would get to 7 wins in that case
If USD loses to NDSU there is no question that NDSU is in over USD
If USD loses to SDSU there is no question that SDSU is in over USD
If WIU wins their last two there is no question that they are in over USD
if UNI wins their last two they are at 7 wins and wins the head to head plus has better wins and are likely in over USD
Illinois State is an intereting wild card but if they win one more they are possibly in over USD because of head to head and a win over SDSU or NDSU. They would have better wins and be playing better as well.
USD could very well end up the 6th most worthy MVFC school and I would not count on 6 teams making it. If USD loses 4 of their last 5 with hardly any good wins that is going to hurt quite a bit in the committees eyes. Even if USD is the 5th most worthy team the committee might only take 4 MVFC teams. One never knows what they will be thinking. The best way to ensure a berth is to get at least one last quality win to lock in that spot. IMO despite the strength of the Valley the Coyotes wouldn't deserve a playoff spot if they lost their last 2 and in turn 4 out of their last 5.
Every year is different. Just because a 6-5 conference team makes in one year does not mean a 7-4 team will make it the next. There are many variables that go into a teams worthiness and much of that has to do with the luck of the draw and how many teams around the country come in with 7 or 8 wins. If there are too many then resumes start to be compared and if most things are equal suddenly quality wins and how teams finished the year could come into play. I am guessing that the Coyotes will have a 70% chance if they have 7 wins but I don't want to rely on a 70% chance.
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Post by easmus on Nov 6, 2017 9:27:29 GMT -6
I think we have to root for Illinois st to lose out so they finish 6-5. UNI & Western are both likely to win out making them 7-4 & 8-3 respectively. NDSU & SDSU are both probably in in some fashion. This would make us the 5th playoff team in our worst case scenario of losing our next 2 games. Win even 1 of 2, we don’t have to do any scoreboard watching.
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Post by nccyote on Nov 6, 2017 12:23:19 GMT -6
I think we have to root for Illinois st to lose out so they finish 6-5. UNI & Western are both likely to win out making them 7-4 & 8-3 respectively. NDSU & SDSU are both probably in in some fashion. This would make us the 5th playoff team in our worst case scenario of losing our next 2 games. Win even 1 of 2, we don’t have to do any scoreboard watching. Exactly...win and you're in. That needs to be our attitude. Control what you can control and don't worry about the rest. Nielsen and Co. have post-season and championship experience. This is not their 1st go round when it comes to post-season pressure. I am certain they will stress this notion of "Do your part" and let the rest fall where it may. If the Coyotes win 1 of the next 2, we will be in the post season. |
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Post by easmus on Nov 6, 2017 14:02:29 GMT -6
Yes, team needs to play to win the game.
We fans will do the scoreboard watching.
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Post by thebacksackdad on Nov 6, 2017 15:17:59 GMT -6
I think we have to root for Illinois st to lose out so they finish 6-5. UNI & Western are both likely to win out making them 7-4 & 8-3 respectively. NDSU & SDSU are both probably in in some fashion. This would make us the 5th playoff team in our worst case scenario of losing our next 2 games. Win even 1 of 2, we don’t have to do any scoreboard watching. Exactly...win and you're in. That needs to be our attitude. Control what you can control and don't worry about the rest. Nielsen and Co. have post-season and championship experience. This is not their 1st go round when it comes to post-season pressure. I am certain they will stress this notion of "Do your part" and let the rest fall where it may. If the Coyotes win 1 of the next 2, we will be in the post season. I'm on that train! Now let's do our part and keep those USD tx against SDSU in USD fans hands!!! (from what I've seen posted here it sounds tough but we can try?) |
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Post by usdtator on Nov 7, 2017 11:10:35 GMT -6
Current projections by Hero Sports of where the playoff projections are if the season were to end today. The road to the national championship seems much better on this path...  |
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