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Post by easmus on May 28, 2020 11:47:51 GMT -6
The old NCC is not getting back together, ever, so I don't even know why you are bringing up that is the "reason for the MVFC/Summit arrangement". There is no arrangement. Morningside is long gone, SCSU has just dropped football and is teetering, UNC is in the Big Sky. The only group any of us wanted "back together" were the Dakota core of USD, SDSU, NDSU, and UND. That has now happened in the MVFC and Summit. Our old rivalries can now continue. Augustana was never a part of that group or that plan. The school just doesn't fit like the rest of the Dakota schools. Seems none of our fan bases really want to be associated with the Vikings. This result is the way it should be. Augustana should focus on being the best D2 school it can be and forget about Division 1. If Augie really wants to raise its profile and become elite they should aspire to be Grinnell College. Bravo! |
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Post by kickingbird on May 28, 2020 13:09:50 GMT -6
All those in favor of giving Augie a fast track D1 transition directly into the Summit League need to remember that USD, SDSU, UND & NDSU all had to spend time in the Great West or as independents prior to reaching the Summit. If they want to join the Summit, they need to establish a track record of their commitment to D1 prior to being invited. Augie's D1 aspirations hinge on Summit League or bust so they can get in the sandbox with the USD and SDSU again and "raise their national profile". I don't see any inclinations they would ever ride it out in the WAC or as an independent, which is exactly my frustration. That's not a profile of a D1 school to me. They need the Summit more than the Summit needs Augie. |
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Post by kiyoat on May 28, 2020 14:15:15 GMT -6
Meh. fine with me. Really, the main reason I was in favor of the Augie option was selfish; more USD teams playing in Sioux Falls, where I can easily attend. Hopefully we will continue to see some BB and VB games in the Pentagon, and the SLT in the T. Denny. There were loads of negatives, or potential negatives with Augie that we no longer have to worry about.
Let's move on, indeed. Let's go Tommies! I have zero issues with planning some trips to the Cities.
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Post by usdguy99 on Jun 16, 2020 18:42:49 GMT -6
According to the Star Tribune, the St Thomas decision will be made tomorrow by the NCAA
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Post by kickingbird on Jun 17, 2020 16:46:49 GMT -6
According to the Star Tribune, the St Thomas decision will be made tomorrow by the NCAA
Looks like UST and the Summit League's plan to have them get a waiver will likely happen, and the NCAA will work on creating a formal process for future programs to make a similar jump. |
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Post by Yotes on Jun 17, 2020 21:30:54 GMT -6
According to the Star Tribune, the St Thomas decision will be made tomorrow by the NCAA
Looks like UST and the Summit League's plan to have them get a waiver will likely happen, and the NCAA will work on creating a formal process for future programs to make a similar jump. That is excellent news! St Thomas is a boon for the Summit. Plus I can't wait to see the Yotes playing in St Paul on a regular basis  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 10:41:00 GMT -6
It's about time Minnesota has more than one Division 1 football and basketball program.
Currently, only Alaska has no DI BB or FB programs.
These states only have one: Hawaii, Maine, Minnesota, Vermont and Wyoming.
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Post by kiyoat on Jul 15, 2020 9:00:52 GMT -6
Ok, I'm back on the Douple Bandwagon:
I've mentioned this as a smart option multiple times in this thread and others. It just makes too much sense. The WAC and the Summit are essentially equal for UNC as far as travel cost, and they might even be able to make it cheaper with travel partners. Who knows? This is great insurance to keep the basketball auto-bid in a sport that is critically important to maintain. Add St Thomas and we are in even better shape in that sport.
This could be the start of more collaboration in sports with UNC, as they compare travel costs for their other sports. They also compete in women's swimming and diving in the WAC, since the Big Sky doesn't sponsor that sport. Let's get them as an affilliate there, too. Bringing back a football school could bring other options to the table, like a football-playing Summit League.
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Post by elcoyote on Jul 15, 2020 9:22:49 GMT -6
Nothing but good can come from UNC collaborating with the Summit. I hope it eventually evolves into a full time membership in all sports.
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Post by GoYotes on Jul 15, 2020 9:31:24 GMT -6
UNC would be a good travel partner for Denver and would also provide a regional opponent for the Pioneers.
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Jul 15, 2020 14:56:58 GMT -6
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Post by Yotes on Jul 15, 2020 18:43:58 GMT -6
I am so happy the Summit was able to go outside of the box and get St Thomas (plus UNC for baseball). It's a move none of us considered a couple years ago but it makes so much sense. They bring a strong alumni base, with lots of funding, and it opens the league to the Twin Cities. Recruits and alumni of all the Dakota schools are going to enjoy that. I dare say it even helps all of us recruit football players from Minnesota too as we will finally have an athletic presence there.
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Post by Yotes on Jul 15, 2020 18:59:43 GMT -6
I'll add that St Thomas could be very successful, very soon. It is insane that a state with 5.6 million residents has only ever had one D1 school, and a lot of Minnesota recruits who can play D1 but don't get that Big 10 Gopher offer have to go elsewhere.
Without doing any research I'd guess Minnesota has the least D1 schools per resident of any state in the US, maybe by a long shot too. There is so much untapped potential here. I'm sure I'll be hating St Thomas soon enough for their on-court presence. I'm gonna love the short trip to the games though as I live 20 minutes from their campus.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 22:23:21 GMT -6
I'll add that St Thomas could be very successful, very soon. It is insane that a state with 5.6 million residents has only ever had one D1 school, and a lot of Minnesota recruits who can play D1 but don't get that Big 10 Gopher offer have to go elsewhere. Without doing any research I'd guess Minnesota has the least D1 schools per resident of any state in the US, maybe by a long shot too. There is so much untapped potential here. I'm sure I'll be hating St Thomas soon enough for their on-court presence. I'm gonna love the short trip to the games though as I live 20 minutes from their campus. Alaska has no DI for Basketball or Football. Minnesota is the most populous state with only one DI school (Hawaii, Maine, Minnesota, Vermont and Wyoming) so you're probably right. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Jul 17, 2020 2:18:42 GMT -6
Does anyone know if Saint Thomas is going to be playing FCS scholarship football. I certainly hope so because the Summit's goal should be to only include schools that do so. I would favor UNC because they could get the conference closer to a true all sports conference. The further away SD and the Summit can get from having non football schools making decisions from them the better.
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