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Post by aldewitt on Sept 17, 2018 9:02:53 GMT -6
To prove the point Look at these stats.
JMU rushes for 218 and gives up 86
UND rushes for 214 and gives up 89
ISUr rushes for 223 and gives up 83
NDSU rushes for 325 and gives up 114
USD rushes for 93 and gives up 162
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Post by yotefbfan on Sept 17, 2018 9:25:55 GMT -6
My take on the offense is that the O-coordinator needs to take some pressure off the O-line by calling more running plays. Simply put, we don't run the ball enough. It makes us one dimensional and allows the defense to pin their ears back, pass rush, and dial up blitzes. We're just in love with the pass and throwing the ball too dang much. You could argue that the run game isn't working, I would counter by saying you need to give it time to work. Rushes that go for 1 or 2 yard gains in the first quarter become 5-6 yard gains in the 4th when you keep going to body with a pounding run game. It also keeps the defense honest, they still need to respect the run because you're calling run plays. The O needs more balance, simple as that. Running the ball will help the O-line out a ton. You know who else this helps out, the defense. Running the ball increases our TOP and keeps the D off the field and prevents them from getting worn out. I was screaming at the TV Saturday night that we needed to RUN THE DAMN BALL! I agree totally, As part of the RPO offense the R stands for Run and is listed first for a reason. If we establish the run it will slow the pass rush, holds the linebackers and open more passing lanes. Obviously, we need the line to open the holes and when we have ran run specific plays they have been fairly successful, but with the straight RPO, they struggle and seem more on their heels in Pass Pro rather than being aggressive to establish running lanes first. This comes down to our mindset of being a run first team or a pass first team? As far as the RBs are concerned, coaches felt confident enough during spring and summer ball to move Fredrick to the D and stick with Henry, Klett, and Brooks. So far we have seen a lot of Henry and just a little of Klett and Brooks. I would like to see more of them as Henry has struggled so far as the starter. The pressure to perform as the main back might be tough on a true Sophomore plus his pass blocking has been average at best. After 3 games and 2 weeks to prep for SIU I would like to see if someone else could get the job done as the #1 and get our mindset correct on being Run first. |
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Post by howlingyote on Sept 17, 2018 9:48:16 GMT -6
My take on the offense is that the O-coordinator needs to take some pressure off the O-line by calling more running plays. Simply put, we don't run the ball enough. It makes us one dimensional and allows the defense to pin their ears back, pass rush, and dial up blitzes. We're just in love with the pass and throwing the ball too dang much. You could argue that the run game isn't working, I would counter by saying you need to give it time to work. Rushes that go for 1 or 2 yard gains in the first quarter become 5-6 yard gains in the 4th when you keep going to body with a pounding run game. It also keeps the defense honest, they still need to respect the run because you're calling run plays. The O needs more balance, simple as that. Running the ball will help the O-line out a ton. You know who else this helps out, the defense. Running the ball increases our TOP and keeps the D off the field and prevents them from getting worn out. I was screaming at the TV Saturday night that we needed to RUN THE DAMN BALL! I agree totally, As part of the RPO offense the R stands for Run and is listed first for a reason. If we establish the run it will slow the pass rush, holds the linebackers and open more passing lanes. Obviously, we need the line to open the holes and when we have ran run specific plays they have been fairly successful, but with the straight RPO, they struggle and seem more on their heels in Pass Pro rather than being aggressive to establish running lanes first. This comes down to our mindset of being a run first team or a pass first team? As far as the RBs are concerned, coaches felt confident enough during spring and summer ball to move Fredrick to the D and stick with Henry, Klett, and Brooks. So far we have seen a lot of Henry and just a little of Klett and Brooks. I would like to see more of them as Henry has struggled so far as the starter. The pressure to perform as the main back might be tough on a true Sophomore plus his pass blocking has been average at best. After 3 games and 2 weeks to prep for SIU I would like to see if someone else could get the job done as the #1 and get our mindset correct on being Run first. Agreed. Ben Klett looked good again on Saturday running AND blocking. He needs more touches so he can punish the LB and DB when they try and tackle him. I’m a huge fan of these coaches, but when we have 3rd and short, give the ball to the 230lb back not to Kai. Simple physics. |
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Post by ontheyote on Sept 17, 2018 9:53:56 GMT -6
My take on the offense is that the O-coordinator needs to take some pressure off the O-line by calling more running plays. Simply put, we don't run the ball enough. It makes us one dimensional and allows the defense to pin their ears back, pass rush, and dial up blitzes. We're just in love with the pass and throwing the ball too dang much. You could argue that the run game isn't working, I would counter by saying you need to give it time to work. Rushes that go for 1 or 2 yard gains in the first quarter become 5-6 yard gains in the 4th when you keep going to body with a pounding run game. It also keeps the defense honest, they still need to respect the run because you're calling run plays. The O needs more balance, simple as that. Running the ball will help the O-line out a ton. You know who else this helps out, the defense. Running the ball increases our TOP and keeps the D off the field and prevents them from getting worn out. I was screaming at the TV Saturday night that we needed to RUN THE DAMN BALL! I agree totally, As part of the RPO offense the R stands for Run and is listed first for a reason. If we establish the run it will slow the pass rush, holds the linebackers and open more passing lanes. Obviously, we need the line to open the holes and when we have ran run specific plays they have been fairly successful, but with the straight RPO, they struggle and seem more on their heels in Pass Pro rather than being aggressive to establish running lanes first. This comes down to our mindset of being a run first team or a pass first team? As far as the RBs are concerned, coaches felt confident enough during spring and summer ball to move Fredrick to the D and stick with Henry, Klett, and Brooks. So far we have seen a lot of Henry and just a little of Klett and Brooks. I would like to see more of them as Henry has struggled so far as the starter. The pressure to perform as the main back might be tough on a true Sophomore plus his pass blocking has been average at best. After 3 games and 2 weeks to prep for SIU I would like to see if someone else could get the job done as the #1 and get our mindset correct on being Run first. I agree that establishing the run is one of the most important aspects to winning a football game. BUT an RPO is completely based off of a read player. Depending on where that player moves on the snap determines if we run or pass the ball. Simmons is either missing the read and forcing the pass, or Weber states D coordinator did a better job of scouting us and schlafke wasnt able to get us in winnable situations, or their defensive players were flat out beating our o line. I'm guessing it's a combination of all 3. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Sept 17, 2018 10:19:13 GMT -6
Then start calling more straight run plays and use RPO plays less often. Our offensive problems really are as simple as we don't run the ball enough and establish control of the LOS. We ran the ball a ton in previous years, our offenses were well balanced, and it's pretty common knowledge that if you are going to win the MVFC that you need to be able to run the ball and play defense.
Oddly enough, all across the MVFC you are seeing a movement to more pass happy, up tempo offenses. At the same time the MVFC is suffering one of its worst OOC record in years. Coincidence? Nope.
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Post by ontheyote on Sept 17, 2018 10:32:49 GMT -6
Then start calling more straight run plays and use RPO plays less often. Our offensive problems really are as simple as we don't run the ball enough and establish control of the LOS. We ran the ball a ton in previous years, our offenses were well balanced, and it's pretty common knowledge that if you are going to win the MVFC that you need to be able to run the ball and play defense. Oddly enough, all across the MVFC you are seeing a movement to more pass happy, up tempo offenses. At the same time the MVFC is suffering one of its worst OOC record in years. Coincidence? Nope. You are not wrong. Good teams across all levels establish the LOS and run the football at all costs. Coach Glenn's teams (beschorner at OC) wanted to establish this mentality. Although the offense was not putting up huge numbers in the games they did win those years, they were able to finish out games by running over a defense for a first down. Since nielson took over with Schlafke at OC they have put up ridiculous numbers, but not been able to close out games by running out the clock. They rely on getting off more plays and defensive has an emphasis on creating turnovers to give our O more possessions. What I am saying is the offensive we run now establishes the run in a different way (through tempo and rhythm). Very difficult to just say "hey let's line up and run over these guys" |
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Post by fightsd on Sept 17, 2018 10:32:52 GMT -6
Then start calling more straight run plays and use RPO plays less often. Our offensive problems really are as simple as we don't run the ball enough and establish control of the LOS. We ran the ball a ton in previous years, our offenses were well balanced, and it's pretty common knowledge that if you are going to win the MVFC that you need to be able to run the ball and play defense. Oddly enough, all across the MVFC you are seeing a movement to more pass happy, up tempo offenses. At the same time the MVFC is suffering one of its worst OOC record in years. Coincidence? Nope. I think the offense is about the same as when Strev was here. The big difference is Simmons isn't a run-first guy like Strev was a lot of the time. |
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Post by sportschic on Sept 17, 2018 11:28:58 GMT -6
Opposing defense's need to be worried about the run period. If you don't or can't run the ball for whatever reason, you are now a one-dimensional team. One-dimensional opponents are a defensive coordinators dream! Frankly, I think there are several obstacles presenting themselves which is presenting a poor running game for the last three games. The reads, the lanes, etc. This coaching staff will figure it out and make whatever adjustments are needed in order to improve quickly even if it means changing up the depth chart. I did notice while watching the game that when they picked up the tempo, they executed better. It didn't let Weber's defense adjust and it was evident that was helping the offense execute. it didn't seem as though the offense was able to keep the tempo up consistently throughout the game. The personal fouls and penalties must stop, they are killing momentum and rhythm for the offense and placing the defense in tough positions. This is inexcusable and out of character for a team coached by this staff.
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Post by usdtator on Sept 17, 2018 14:00:17 GMT -6
I was very upset about our Yotes performance last Saturday... but my optimism is returning. We have a VERY young team with very few upperclassmen to provide that leadership that is so desperately needed right now. They'll find it. And we'll be a better football team because of it. Seeing what our coaching staff has done in three short years, the tribulations we experienced last Saturday can, and will, become a great motivator.
We'll be contenders by the end of the year.
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Post by sportschic on Sept 17, 2018 16:01:44 GMT -6
Interesting I just read that USD leads the nation in tackles for a loss and is the only team with 5 100 yard receivers. That is impressive and hopeful!
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Sept 17, 2018 18:41:07 GMT -6
News and notes goyotes.com/news/2018/9/17/football-notable-quotable-from-weber-state.aspxSouth Dakota took a 27-10 loss to nationally-ranked Weber State Saturday in Ogden, Utah, in a matchup of top-25 teams. It marked the first time in two-plus seasons under Bob Nielson that the Coyotes were limited to less than 14 points and the second time the team was held to less than 20. Here are some other notes from week three: The Coyote defense more than held its own, limiting Weber State to 250 yards of offense and generating 13 tackles-for-loss including three sacks South Dakota is tied for the national lead in TFLs thru three weeks with 29. Darin Greenfield (5.5), Alex Gray (4.5) and Luis Peguero (4.5) lead the Coyotes in that category. Weber State started four drives in Coyote territory and was limited to three field goals. The Wildcats' lone touchdown drive needed 53 yards following a turnover. Weber State's average starting position: own 44; best: USD 20 (stopped on fourth down) South Dakota's average starting position: own 23; best: own 39 (one of two outside the 25) Weber State converted 1 of 13 third downs and was stopped on a 4th-and-1 from the 2. WSU running back Josh Davis, who ran for 177 yards on 23 carries against Cal Poly one week earlier, netted 104 yards on 27 totes against the Coyotes The Coyotes are one of three teams nationally with five 100-yard receivers thru three games (Falck, Allen, Baker, Jackson, Ducker) Wideout Kody Case competed for the first time in 2018 and led the Yotes with six catches against Weber State (totaled 57 yards) Austin Simmons was pressured on 28 of 54 drop backs to pass Saturday. On those 28 pressures, he was sacked eight times, hit six other times, and completed 7 of 18 passes for 72 yards. If Simmons wasn't a mobile quarterback, he would have been sacked four other times. When not pressured, Simmons was 18 for 26 for 139 yards and a touchdown. Four of the eight incompletions were dropped passes. Simmons ranks fourth nationally in passing, completing 80 of 140 passes for 929 yards South Dakota's offense has converted 11 of 12 red zone opportunities this season with eight touchdowns and three field goals Mason Lorber has made a field goal in each game this season |
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Post by easmus on Sept 19, 2018 8:06:14 GMT -6
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Sept 27, 2018 6:50:32 GMT -6
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