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Post by teamsd on Oct 13, 2018 20:40:41 GMT -6
Simple. 3 turnovers resulted in 3 panther scores. Zero pass rush too. Out played big time. Better team won tonight. Playoff chance really slim now. YUP. 1. Too many turnovers. 2. Did not create turnovers. 3. OL could not block (again) 4. Little to no running game. 5. No pass rush |
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Post by sd4ever on Oct 13, 2018 20:42:22 GMT -6
Well congratulations UNI. You're still the better team. Good for you. Yotes seem to have a long ways to go yet. When you get dominated on the line of scrimmage basically the whole game it is tough to win. Throw in the turnovers and there is no chance.
Pick yourself up and get the win in Youngstown.
Go Coyotes.
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Post by fightsd on Oct 13, 2018 21:35:17 GMT -6
Well that sucked.
Once again the defense held their own and the managed to give the game away. No hard hitting analysis from me, just a bitter fan tonight.
On another note, I hope that's the last night game. The dome seemed flat and so did the team. The novelty of a night game is kind of lost when you play inside. I was actually pleasantly surprised with the number of fans in the stands. On both sides of the field. Students proved me wrong. I thought there would be a hundred kids there maybe but it looked pretty full for the first half.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 13, 2018 22:31:23 GMT -6
10 times as many students as I expected.
Good on the PA guy for asking people to stand up on 2nd down. I sit a couple rows behind Joe Glenn and he seemed self conscious cheering before 3rd. Need more energy on all downs.
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Post by teamsd on Oct 13, 2018 23:08:08 GMT -6
Tonight was not our best performance. We lost the battle, but we haven’t lost the war. I think we are more resilient than last seasons team. There is a ton of football left to play. Time to get back to work and focus on the penguins.
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Post by fightsd on Oct 14, 2018 7:07:29 GMT -6
Tonight was not our best performance. We lost the battle, but we haven’t lost the war. I think we are more resilient than last seasons team. There is a ton of football left to play. Time to get back to work and focus on the penguins. I was actually thinking the same thing last night as I was watching the disaster unfold in the fourth quarter. My thought was this team is more consistently better than last year's. The biggest difference is the Strev factor. He was just that good. Last year's team lived and died with him. When he was healthy and playing great, the upside was huge. I really think there were days when the Yotes could have beat any team in the country. When he was banged up we just couldn't get the offense going enough to keep up in the shootouts we found ourselves in every week. This year, the tables have flipped a little bit but it's not as drastic. The defense is good enough to keep us in games and the offense isn't bad either. I keep telling people we really don't know how good this coyote team is because they haven't played a complete game yet. There's always a quarter or even a couple series where the wheels come off and everything goes to hell. But here we are 6 games in. Is this how good the coyotes are? |
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Post by usdcoyote on Oct 14, 2018 9:22:45 GMT -6
[quote author=" fightsd" source="/post/54179/tI keep telling people we really don't know how good this coyote team is because they haven't played a complete game yet. There's always a quarter or even a couple series where the wheels come off and everything goes to hell. But here we are 6 games in. Is this how good the coyotes are? [/quote] I have been waiting for the complete game as well, but I think I've finally come to accept that this might just be how good we are. About middle of the conference. The two teams we beat may very well end up at the bottom with Indiana st. |
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Post by sportschic on Oct 14, 2018 9:42:22 GMT -6
3 turnovers for short yardage touchdowns ...21 points is going to win every time in this conference. Did you all notice the cramp gate strategy? Does anyone have any take on the OL? They are pretty much starters from last year?
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Post by elcoyote on Oct 14, 2018 10:24:17 GMT -6
3 turnovers for short yardage touchdowns ...21 points is going to win every time in this conference. Did you all notice the cramp gate strategy? Does anyone have any take on the OL? They are pretty much starters from last year? I've really been disappointed in the offensive line with, as you said, all the experience we had back. I thought at the beginning of the year that it could be a strength. Do we miss Coach O'Boyle that much? Too many of the losses we've had we've been our own worst enemy. |
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Post by pressboxvet on Oct 14, 2018 10:26:04 GMT -6
Yes.
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Post by obc on Oct 14, 2018 10:52:46 GMT -6
Thoughts on the UNI game:
Congratulations to UNI - they were the better team in multiple facets of the game last night and won convincingly on the road. Road wins in the MVFC do not come easy, and UNI came to Vermillion with the mindset to take it to the Yotes and executed on that mindset. This game reinforced several truisms of what it takes to win in the game of football: win the physical battle at the LOS, win the turnover battle, and convert TDs in the redzone. UNI did each of those exceptionally well and in my opinion, USD was fortunate to be as close as they were when time expired.
The positives from last night: Allen was the best athlete on the field last night and showcased that athleticism several times. He had 6 receptions for 98 yards with some top 10 ESPN worthy catches. Simmons targeted him several times, and I think USD could go to that well even more. UNI was forced to make a decision to either give safety support over the top on Allen or leave themselves exposed over the middle or down the seam. Our TEs were open frequently in the middle of the field - Samson had 5 catches for 57 yards. The USD defense had one stinker series where they let UNI drive the field quickly and score after USD had fought to get the game tied up in the second half. Other than that, against a capable UNI offense they held up well considering the short fields they were defending. The defense ended up with 7 TFLs for -22 yards on the night. Andrew Gray had another solid game with 12 tackles and one TFL. Our corners gave up some plays but they are an improved unit from where we were earlier in the year. I like their progress. Schutt punted well averaging over 50 yards per punt. Lorber converted all of his Xtra points as well as 2/2 on FGs matching his longest make of the season.
The crowd actually did a good job showing up compared to my expectation, and at times it seemed loud. I thought the gameday crew running the scoreboard and the PA announcer did their best job to date working to get the crowd cheering. The students actually had as good of a showing at the game as they did on D-Days. The student tailgate area before the game was a ghost town though.
The Struggles: The USD OL consistently struggled in run and pass blocking. Net 38 yards rushing on 40 attempts. USD did actually gained 96 yards, but also lost 58 yards, 25 of which came from Simmons getting sacked. Simmons was sacked 5 times and had one other official hurry. He seemed to be under duress virtually every play. On the flip side - UNI's QB was only sacked once for an 8 yard loss with one official QB Hurry. Turnover Chuckie was tormenting USD last night finishing -3 in that category - and they were not just run of the mill turnovers - they proved to be catastrophic turnovers in the USD red zone directly resulting in UNI TDs. UNI showed tremendous ball security and decision making and did not give USD any easy opportunities to get a take-away. UNIs punter punished USD all night - he placed 5 punts inside the 20 forcing fair-catches. That was a factor keeping the heat on USD's offense. Once again USD gave up a rather long KO return. UNI's kicker pounded the ball causing mostly touchbacks. Wish he had hit his kick before the end of the second half a little deeper in the endzone and maybe USD wouldn't have returned it out only to fumble. That KO return fumble to end the half was a momentum changer. To add insult to injury, the UNI player that recovered that fumble and returned it 7 yards to the USD 4 was a player that had committed to USD originally only to flip to UNI late in the recruiting process (Alphonso Soko). Looks like Andrew Gray has a broken bone in his hand and played much of the second half with one arm completely wrapped up. Safety was a deep and strong spot heading into the season, and the injury bug is attacking that depth. Powell appears out for the season at that position.
It is easy to over-react after a heart wrenching loss. We are now past the mid-way mark in the regular season. It is fair to look at the season to this point though and see what the trends are. My prevailing take-away is that USD's OL is not executing at level that is even adequate. With OL execution like we have seen so far this year against Weber St, UNC, and UNI - the USD team will struggle to beat even bottom third MVFC teams. USD lost 58 yards last night cumulatively. Let that sink in. A surprising stat last night was UNI gained 121 yards and USD gained 96 yards. From watching the game in person I would have thought the spread would have been much wider - UNI was in control of the LOS. The USD OL on paper should be improved over last year. Last year our OL was inconsistent and struggled at times too. Perhaps it did not look as bad, due to the elite athleticism of Streveler. An elite player like that can certainly hide deficiencies at other positions. That is not a criticism of Simmons. He is also an elite talent in my assessment. He very well may also be making the OL look better than they are playing at times (as scary as that may be to think about). Imagine a less-mobile qb back there with the protection we are witnessing. Klett and Thull are the two most productive RBs USD has. Henry is capable, but has shown a propensity to get more negative yards at times than those two. Was also surprised that C Brooks did not appear at all yesterday. He has officially burned his RS status this year and didn't see the field yesterday. Not sure I understand why his RS would be burned and then not used at all - would expect to see him on special teams coverage at least. That is disappointing.
Going on the road next week at YSU will be a big challenge and will test the leadership on the USD team as much as anything. This is a crossroads for the team and there is zero margin for error going forward. USD has done a tremendous job recruiting and cultivating some dynamic skill position players. They appear to not have been able to do that with the OL to this point - at least it has not shown up consistently as I have watched. That is very concerning. I cannot tell if it is athleticism, failure to execute good technique, or scheme. I would guess it is a mix of all three. It would be hard for anyone to convince me that trying to single block #7 on UNIs defense on a passing down was a good idea. We will need the OL to perform much better on potentially cold-windy days in Youngstown, Terre Haute, and Brookings to have a chance at victory. Next week will be a strong indicator for us if it will be a winning or losing season for the team this season.
On to the next!
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Post by flagshipU on Oct 14, 2018 11:02:21 GMT -6
O-line play definitely disappointing as others have said. Have seen some improvement with the segment, but still a work in progress.
Regarding our pass rush, it seems to me that there has been a change in technique with a decision to go with more bull-rush and "collapse the pocket". We have certainly cut back on the line stunts that led to a large portion of the sacks last year.
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Post by aldewitt on Oct 14, 2018 12:27:09 GMT -6
Overall it wasn’t that poor of performanc3 for the Yotes. Both offensively and defensively it was about average, which should have given them a narrow victory except for rushing. 38 yards net is all. They went in expecting at least 113 and the chance was there for more.
UNI got 4 passing TDS.
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Post by easmus on Oct 14, 2018 12:45:03 GMT -6
OB always had the white board out coaching guys in between series. From a guy who sits front row tells me, all Prevost does is drop F bombs and say we’ll get em next series with no instructions. |
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Post by usdyotes on Oct 14, 2018 20:22:49 GMT -6
I don't understand why everyone is blaming the o line for everything. Yes they are not as good as last year but they don't fumble the ball or throw interceptions or drop a kick off. How about throw the ball away or don't hold it for ever on a screen. Protect the ball when running with it. Also the running backs need to go north and south. Stop trying to juke the defenders just take 3 or 4 yards and don't worry about getting 30. We beat the crapy teams and everyone goes crazy about how great we are. We are what we are period. I have said it a million times and get ripped all the time it starts with the qb. He will never beat a good team. He freaks out and makes mistakes but everyone blames others for his mistakes. They will lose to ndsu and sdsu. They will win 2 of the other 3 games remaining.
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