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Post by Yotes on Oct 20, 2018 20:02:29 GMT -6
I should walk back my comment that someone should lose their job. It's obvious that movement on the staff is warranted, but that doesn't have to mean termination.
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Post by sportschic on Oct 20, 2018 21:15:40 GMT -6
Does anyone have any insight on why Simmons doesn’t run more? He has proved he is capable.
Weber exposed our weaknesses and tour opponents are capatalizing on them. We haven’t done anything to improve in those areas. Ya can’t be a one dimensional team and win games!
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Post by teamsd on Oct 20, 2018 21:28:52 GMT -6
Growing pains, folks. Growing pains. Bobs not going away. He’ll turn this team into a program
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Post by teamsd on Oct 20, 2018 21:40:14 GMT -6
As for the team, does anyone else feel like this team is missing a leader?
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Post by coyote70 on Oct 20, 2018 21:51:50 GMT -6
I didn't see the game. Went to my daughter's and raked leaves. Made a good choice.
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Post by sdyotefan on Oct 21, 2018 0:03:38 GMT -6
Worst first half of Coyote FB I've seen for years and years!! Good news is that they clawed back in 2nd half. Then I believe 2 critical bad play calls--1st and Goal at 2 run wide and lose 4 and after incomplete passes settle for FG. Then in 4th Q 3rd and 6 at YSU 35 yd line and throw a 30 yd sideline pattern IC then IP penalty so now 4th and 11 and punt. I agree that there does seem to be lack of any real fiery leadership and the team for half of a game (not just this one) appears to be sleepwalking??? Often little or no passion especially if things aren't going right. This team is far more talented than they are showing!! I'm still hoping for a COMPLETE game!! Might as well start with the #1 team in the nation! GO YOTES!!!
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Post by DuluthYote91 on Oct 21, 2018 0:46:51 GMT -6
At what time is a QB change warranted? I believe there are other talented QB’s waiting for their chance. Do they deserve their chance at this point?
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Post by aldewitt on Oct 21, 2018 2:05:06 GMT -6
Boys, we're average. We've always been an average school at football. I don't know how to turn that around. The administration has done everything they have needed to do. Steal away and hire one of the best coaches in the Valley. Make the investment in scholarships, resources, and FCOA for our athletes so we can compete on the recruiting trail. Build one of the best sports performance facilities in the upper Midwest. Now we have Dome upgrades and expansion going on. Still we are average, and we lose games like this. I don't know what else to say. It was a disappointing game. This is why it’s such a tough league. There were a lot of us that thought it was going to be a win but it was going to be close. Too bad we couldn’t put the breaks on them a little earlier. 22-0 was a pretty deep hole. Right now now this is a one team league and the rest of us. 7-4 is not out of the question but we are in our darkest hours of a championship run. There is a 6 place tie at second with teams at 2-2. If the playoffs is the goal this is not over and won’t be for several weeks yet. There are 4 games left. The post season may be boiling down down to the SDSU game. YSU was on the ropes. We thought they may have already hit the showers. Instead they came ready to play. That’s where USD is right now. A good game next week, it doesn’t even have to be a win, would go a long way in preperation for the final 3 games where our fate for this season will be decided. |
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Post by gopheryote on Oct 21, 2018 7:02:34 GMT -6
OL was dominated in the first half, made some adjustments that worked in the second half. Similar with DL, but couldn't stop the run when YSU wasn't even pretending to pass much of the 2nd half.
It feels like the scheme on D is to play soft and hope the other team making a mistake or stiffen in the red zone. Last year the D took aggressive chances that sometimes gave up easy scores, but also some quick 3-and-outs (Mr. Greenfield and Mr. Schultz making plays). That would allow the O to play uptempo and run a ton of plays, even when they went 3-and-out too. Not sure uptempo works for us when the D scheme is to bend-but-don't-break, and allow the other team's O to be on the field for a long time?
In other words, I'm not a fan of the scheme change on D, as it seems to take away an advantage our O used to have. (Plus it seems like it hand-cuffs Greenfield a bit.) That may just be frustrating post-loss-rambling too.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 21, 2018 8:23:28 GMT -6
At what time is a QB change warranted? I believe there are other talented QB’s waiting for their chance. Do they deserve their chance at this point? Simmons didn't look great yesterday. On the year he is completing 59% of his passes, and has 12 TDs to 5 INTs. That is with the very limited protection he is getting. I don't think a change would help unless one of our backups has the intangible leadership quality in spades. |
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Post by coyote70 on Oct 21, 2018 9:12:00 GMT -6
Hey, let's put a positive spin on this.
Instead of someone stating that one (or some) coaches should lose their jobs, they state said coaches should find another job?
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Post by easmus on Oct 21, 2018 9:19:38 GMT -6
As for the team, does anyone else feel like this team is missing a leader? Absolutely. Appears a void left by Streveler that no one filled. |
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Post by usdyotes on Oct 21, 2018 9:29:10 GMT -6
At what time is a QB change warranted? I believe there are other talented QB’s waiting for their chance. Do they deserve their chance at this point? Simmons didn't look great yesterday. On the year he is completing 59% of his passes, and has 12 TDs to 5 INTs. That is with the very limited protection he is getting. I don't think a change would help unless one of our backups has the intangible leadership quality in spades. Take out the UNC game. Only that game and what are his stats? Easy to blow up your stats against a horrible team. What are his stats against teams with a 500 or better record. I know o line sucks. You can include K State in those stats even though they are 3-4 |
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Post by obc on Oct 21, 2018 9:31:00 GMT -6
Thoughts on the YSU game:
This week it feels like I am writing a eulogy for the 2018 USD football team. Maybe not for the team, but for the thought of sustained year over year success for the program and a second trip to the playoffs this season. Hope the team makes these reports of their death premature and just an over-reaction to what I observed last night and again on film this morning. While the first half against Weber St was very bad too, the first half last night in Youngstown felt even worse. For me it was a confirmation that these issues are not just isolated rare problems, but enduring and playoff-hopes-ending.
I would encourage anyone that is tossing and turning over the USD struggles this year to go back and re-watch the game - and this time just watch the USD OL. That can be hard to do, even when the camera work is good, and even harder when it looked like the game was being filmed from an old iPhone. When you go back and watch - you will see a few things regarding the OL play. Our tackles are giving up a soft edge. We had one OL that looked like he had a decent game last night. All it takes for a play to break down is for one player to not do their job. On many plays there were two or three of our OL that were getting beat on their assignments. Other times there was a defender shooting a gap that the OL didn't even touch. That is both an execution and assignment issue for them. So why is the OL performing so poorly? My thought is three-fold. The coaching change at the OL position has hurt. The loss of Stetson Dagel - the leader of the group from last year has left a leadership void in the unit. Finally, and perhaps the most significant - Streveler was just that good. His pure athleticism overshadowed a very bad offensive line last year. Great athletes like that can really conceal other deficiencies.
The team came out flat. Mick said in his article from the game: "lack of conviction and enthusiasm." Nielson said "It was terrible.... we didn't come out ready to play." Football is supposed to be played with passion. Why do the players look like they have no fight or energy at the start of a game? It is a fun sport and a fun time in their lives. Enjoy it!
While every player needs to challenge himself to be ready to play - the team needs leaders to step forward and take control. Get the players focused during the week and ready to explode with energy and passion on Saturday. As I have heard one coach from another team say: "Come at the other team with shocking effort." USD came out in the first half with shocking non-effort and non-passion. I will never accept losing, but understand it does happen in sports. Lack of effort is disgusting. What we saw was truly disgusting. The coaches for USD did not have the team ready either. They lit a fire at half and in the 3rd quarter the team responded. In my experience watching football you see that frequently. That energy fades though if the team lacks leadership on the field during the game to sustain it. That spark did fade as the second half wore on.
There are certainly individuals on the team that are playing with passion and energy. Just not enough of them. My message to them, is you need to step up and be a leader. I don't care if you are a true freshman or a 5th year senior. Be the leader the team needs. Challenge your teamates. Get in their faces and draw out some focus and fire. You only get one go-around in life - and I am positive they don't want what we have seen several times this year to be how they are remembered as a team. There is still time, but that leadership has to emerge today.
The defense was by far the better unit yesterday. They seem to have a little leadership out there and much more fight than the offense. They gave up 22 points to an average but physical team on the road. The offense gave up a pick 6 and also turned the ball over to YSU at the 36 on the opening drive. My belief is USD's defense is designed to compliment USD's supposed high octane tempo offense. If USD even comes out a little more fired up in the first half, they could have won the game, even executing as poorly as they did throughout. It may not seem like it, but both USD and YSU had the same number of tackles for losses. USD had 6 for 27 yards and YSU had 6 for 29 yards. The USD defense also had three take-aways last night. Reed and Andrew Gray led the way in tackles and Greenfield had 9 tackles, 2 TFLs, 2 forced fumbles and 3 QB hurries. His best game in a while. The Yote defense was gassed at the end of the game and couldn't muster up a stop when YSU was determined to run the ball. YSU had the ball for 40 minutes of the 60 minute game.
Nielson summed up our QB and WR play: " Didn't catch the ball very well.... we didn't throw the ball very well." Sure didn't! Several drops and several poor throws. Simmons was staring down his WRs again and this time paid for it with a long pick 6 to put the game out of reach. Not sure what the coaches are telling him, but he looks like he is holding himself back from running the ball. USD needs to use his athleticism running the ball to loosen up the defense. Was surprised that against a defense that runs lots of man coverage, the coaches didn't unleash some QB draws up the middle once the DBs turn to run downfield and cover. My guess is Bo was set on trying to stop our slot position from hurting him this year after Shamar Jackson torched them last year. Mission accomplished. Our slot receivers in total had 1 catch for 12 yards. They also took away our TE passing game - only 1 catch for 5 yards. Several of our WR/TEs were blanked on the day with no catches.
There is the skill and athleticism on this team to win several more games. That skill has been there all along though and it has still led to some lackluster performances. Coaches need to get a hold of this team and make sure they are all-in. Bench any player that isn't all-in or has a poor attitude. Leaders need to rally their units. I think the team could win 3 of their next 4 with great discipline, energy, and passion. They will lose all of them with an effort like was put forth in Youngstown.
Right now Nielson has 9 wins in the MVFC out of 20 total. Glenn won 6 out of 32 MVFC games. Nielson has made progress but the reality is USD is performing at a bottom-third MVFC level right now. As Yote53 alluded to in an earlier post - it is frustrating because now the Yotes are trying. They are investing in the program fully. This cannot be the result. I do not believe it will ultimately be the result, but I sense it may get worse before it gets better. I sense some big issues in the locker room at the heart of what we are seeing. Prove me wrong Yotes! I will be rooting for you as loud as I can next Saturday.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 21, 2018 10:02:10 GMT -6
Simmons didn't look great yesterday. On the year he is completing 59% of his passes, and has 12 TDs to 5 INTs. That is with the very limited protection he is getting. I don't think a change would help unless one of our backups has the intangible leadership quality in spades. Take out the UNC game. Only that game and what are his stats? Easy to blow up your stats against a horrible team. What are his stats against teams with a 500 or better record. I know o line sucks. You can include K State in those stats even though they are 3-4 He would be at 56% passing, 8 TDs to 5 INTs. The conference games are the ones that matter the most. He's at 60.5% with 6 TDs to 3 INTs there. Maybe we could cherry pick further? Maybe we can whittle this down further until we just have the bad passes isolated and use it as proof that Simmons has no business under center? You hate the guy for ulterior motives, but the source of the problem here isn't Simmons. |
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