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Post by gopheryote on Feb 4, 2019 12:08:18 GMT -6
Am I the only USD fan ok with losing in Frost & likely going into the SLT as 2 seed and less perceived pressure of possibly sweeping the SDSU wbb? I guess the optimist would say that game puts odds in USD's favor regardless of outcome: A) Yotes win, an invite would seem inevitable (assuming no other losses before SLT) B) Yotes loss improves the odds of a Yotes win in SLT (IIRC, the last 3 times one of the teams swept conference play, the other team won in SLT - Yotes twice, SDSU once)
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Post by usdcoyote on Feb 4, 2019 13:15:24 GMT -6
I do agree that we would go in with less pressure as the #2 seed and I do think that would help us in the tournament. However, I also feel our only chance at an at large (if we need it) would be to win the rest of the regular season games. As far as the SLT, we will always be underdogs playing the Jacks there regardless of seed. Our teams just need to deal with the added pressure of being a road team, unfortunately. We might be the underdog in reality, but if you sweep a team in the regular season and you are the conference champion (as has been the case two other times with us and State) then you are going to feel that pressure of having to do it a 3rd time. I feel like there is a reason that our only team to win the SLT was like a 5 seed. The two times we swept State we played very poorly against them in the SLT. A lot of those years that State was rolling through the Summit and then winning the SLT they were just squeaking out wins in the title game. They played pretty bad in some of those games, but they were so much better than the rest of the teams at that time that they were able to hold on for the victory, but you could tell that they were definitely the ones carrying the pressure at that time. I hope you are right about the numbers being there for an at large if we can win out in the regular season. When it comes to an at large for the Summit, for me it will be one of those things I will believe it when I see it. I do feel like this year we have some better wins than we ever have before. That will obviously help. I hope Iowa St and Missouri finish the year strong.
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Post by elcoyote on Feb 4, 2019 15:17:24 GMT -6
All three of you make really good points. Beating a good team, or any team, three times in a row is tough. I've always been a firm believer in "third time's a charm" in sports, especially when you're talking two evenly matched squads. Seen it happen too many times. So it boils down to, for me anyway, just win the tournament and not stress about any of the other stuff. No matter how deserving this is the life of a mid-major.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 4, 2019 15:43:30 GMT -6
Am I the only USD fan ok with losing in Frost & likely going into the SLT as 2 seed and less perceived pressure of possibly sweeping the SDSU wbb? I guess the optimist would say that game puts odds in USD's favor regardless of outcome: A) Yotes win, an invite would seem inevitable (assuming no other losses before SLT) B) Yotes loss improves the odds of a Yotes win in SLT (IIRC, the last 3 times one of the teams swept conference play, the other team won in SLT - Yotes twice, SDSU once) You are correct, the last 3 times someone swept the regular season they lost in the SLT. Still, you never hope for a loss.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 11, 2019 10:47:19 GMT -6
Feb 2 Standings: SDSU---9-1 USD ----8-1 WIU ----6-4 Denver -5-4 ORU ----5-5 UND ----4-6 NDSU --3-6 PFW ----2-8 Omaha -1-8 Feb 11 Standings: USD ---10-1 SDSU -10-1 WIU ----8-4 Denver -6-5 ORU ----6-6 UND ----5-7 NDSU --3-8 PFW ----2-9 Omaha -1-10 Omaha isn't eliminated yet, but it's not looking good. Fort Wayne has shown some improvement, so I'll guess they surpass NDSU. Although Western looks safe at #3 based on standing, they actually have a more difficult schedule finish than ORU and Denver. To me that's a three-way tie that could go either way, and I'll give ORU the edge. My prediction for seeding: 1 USD 2 SDSU 3 ORU 4 Den 5 WIU 6 UND 7 PFW 8 NDSU
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 12, 2019 16:56:23 GMT -6
So, I may want to revise my prediction...
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 18, 2019 10:20:19 GMT -6
Feb 11 Standings: USD ---10-1 SDSU -10-1 WIU ----8-4 Denver -6-5 ORU ----6-6 UND ----5-7 NDSU --3-8 PFW ----2-9 Omaha -1-10 Feb 18 Standings: SDSU -12-1 USD ---11-1 WIU ----8-5 Denver -7-5 ORU ----8-6 UND ----5-8 NDSU --3-10 PFW ----2-11 Omaha -2-11 Nothing is locked up at this point, other than the field being narrowed for first and last place. North Dakota is a virtual lock for a #6 seed, I think. ORU still has the most favorable schedule to get to a #3 seed. Everyone still has a lot to play for.
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Post by yotefan90 on Feb 22, 2019 10:32:42 GMT -6
Interesting quirk to the scheduling for this weekend. Based on standings of today, current 8th place team Omaha is playing at current 7th place NDSU. Current 5th place Denver is playing at current 6th place UND. Current 4th place ORU is at current 3rd place Denver while 1 and 2 are facing off at Brookings. It is like a position round!!
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 25, 2019 9:44:38 GMT -6
Feb 18 Standings: SDSU -12-1 USD ---11-1 WIU ----8-5 Denver -7-5 ORU ----8-6 UND ----5-8 NDSU --3-10 PFW ----2-11 Omaha -2-11 Feb 25 Standings: (and remaining sched) SDSU -14-1-------------@wiu USD ---12-2-----NDSU---UND ORU ----9-6-----Oma Denver -8-6-----WIU-----Oma WIU ----8-6-----@den---@sdsu UND ----5-9-----@pfw-- usd NDSU --4-10---- usd --@pfw PFW ----2-12----UND----NDSU Omaha -2-12---@oru--@den SDSU has clinched a share of the reg season title, and a top-2 seed. In the event of a tie with USD, the seed would be determined by the Denver/WIU finish. USD still has a chance at a share of the title, but needs help. They have clinched a top-2 seed. ORU/Denver/WIU have clinched the 3-5 seeds, but the order is not determined. ORU has the easiest path. UND has clinched the 6 or 7 seed. NDSU could finish anywhere from 6-9. They have split series with UND, Omaha and could split with PFW. They have a win over WIU in a tie-breaker. PFW/Omaha can both finish anywhere from 7-9. Even with just two games left there are several scenarios. PFW's previous win over Denver and Omaha's tougher schedule doesn't bode well for Omaha.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 25, 2019 10:03:00 GMT -6
Most likely finish IMO: 1 SDSU 15-1 2 USD 14-2 3 Den 10-6 (beats WIU at home, win over USD breaks tie) 4 ORU 10-6 5 WIU 8-8 6 UND 6-10 7 NDSU 5-11 8 PFW 2-14 (win over Denver breaks tie)
9 Omaha 2-14
The WIU @ Denver and WIU @ SDSU games will have a large role in determining USD's tourney match-ups. SDSU probably won't have trouble with WIU, but stranger things have happened. A WIU upset over Denver would put ORU in the 3-seed, likely.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 27, 2019 14:36:26 GMT -6
Long story short: Root for Denver over WIU on Thursday so we can avoid a 3rd meeting with ORU in the semifinal.
The possibility of USD getting the 1-seed is pretty remote. WIU would have to beat both Denver and SDSU, and ORU would have to lose both of their games against conference doormats. That would put WIU in the 3-seed, and their win over SDSU would give us the tie-breaker. The probability of all that happening is extremely small. Probably not worth considering. We will be the 2-seed.
The likelihood of a co-title with State is a little less remote. We just need to win out, and WIU needs to pull the upset.
So root against WIU on Thursday, and root for them on Saturday. Confused yet?
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 27, 2019 14:56:04 GMT -6
A regular season title for the Yotes rides on a Leatherneck upset of the Jacks....
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 28, 2019 14:21:35 GMT -6
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 28, 2019 14:51:48 GMT -6
Denver up 48-43 at the half over WIU. If you like offense, this is the match-up for you.
Denver is shooting 50%/46%/100%, but getting out-rebounded (by WIU?) 26-20. Nelson needs to step it up on the glass.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 28, 2019 15:25:50 GMT -6
WIU coming back in the 2nd half, up 71-69 after 3Q.
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