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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 17, 2011 23:14:29 GMT -6
Very good effort by the ladies and congradulations on the win.
As far as tickets we are not anywhere close to having to worry about seats being at a premium just yet so Howling Pack still not a high priority, unless they put the entire span of bleachers off limits to non howling pack members. That would be a way to put good seating at a premium. Put the non howling pack members in the football seats period, afterall they don't deserve to sit close to the court being the second class fans that they are. Putting the second class fans in the football seats until they become howling pack members would be an interesting experiment for next year. Admittingly there are many fans on this board and in general that care about football and football only, so the heck with the rest of it. Maybe if that attitude would change USD could actually have a chance to have basketball tickets be at a premium.
I think it's funny how they are trying to make this game as if it was a huge hard to get ticket. Lets make sure those golden Howling Packs members get first dips that way the second class fans can only have their choice of the one-third full bleachers by game time.
Now on a more serious note maybe instead of worrying so much about getting members to join the focus should be on the ordinary everday fan that just wants to see a good game. It seems like those are the forgotten ones. Maybe that is why attendance is and has been such a problem. Focusing on the select few and forget about the rest doesn't seem to be a formula I see as building a fan base but rather really taking care of the select few and really not caring about the others. Maybe the marketing people and Learfield (if they are truley going to happen) should worry about just getting people through the turnstyles. So what is USD doing to make every fan feel a part of Coyote Nation and not just the select few that have larger purses and wallets than some.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 17, 2011 23:54:38 GMT -6
The extreme high rate of activity on this thread combined with the attendance should tell us how much as a fan base we really care about this game, answer - not much.
If this was SDSU at this same point in their transition in their first post season appearance they would have had 3-4K at the game. They had that many easily for their NIT games when they hosted.
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Post by yotemeal on Mar 18, 2011 1:05:51 GMT -6
The extreme high rate of activity on this thread combined with the attendance should tell us how much as a fan base we really care about this game, answer - not much. If this was SDSU at this same point in their transition in their first post season appearance they would have had 3-4K at the game. They had that many easily for their NIT games when they hosted. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. |
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Mar 18, 2011 3:04:22 GMT -6
Coyote Fan, I get home from Aberdeen at 3 in the morning to see your stupid ramblings after a long day of covering basketball. Then you don't have a single thing to offer and delay when I have to go bed because I have to read your idiocy. YOU are the reason people don't post on this board by thinking you are the king, plain and simple. Go cry to your mom about it, got it? Throw yourself a pity party, until you get over yourself.
Now can anyone tell me about the game since I was in Aberdeen all day?
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 18, 2011 7:32:33 GMT -6
It's funny CF#1, you want to always say that I like to always have things be about me. Well guess what you are the one that makes them about me more often than not. Just stick to the topic at hand and don't make this about me. BTW you dont have to read anything or delay when you go to bed, that a YOU problem not a ME problem. I have the freedom to write and you have the freedom not to read. Don't complain to me about you having to read anything. I suggest putting me on ignore. By the way more people read and post because of me being here not the opposite. When I left the board it died, plain and simple. Just the facts.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 18, 2011 8:58:48 GMT -6
The extreme high rate of activity on this thread combined with the attendance should tell us how much as a fan base we really care about this game, answer - not much. If this was SDSU at this same point in their transition in their first post season appearance they would have had 3-4K at the game. They had that many easily for their NIT games when they hosted. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. So lets see we can further reduce the fan base at USD and further increase the fan base at SDSU. Is that what we really want. 900 (as reported but very possibly less than that) were at the game and I basically said that the attendance sucked. Was there not truth to that or do we consider that a good number? Than I compare it to what SDSU would have likely drawn in a similar senario. Point is that I would like to see USD support all of their non football programs MUCH, MUCH better than what they do. Either fans can whine and cry that I am actually bringing to light a relevant observation or maybe just say "hey you are a trader, or a cappy fan so just leave and support the dark side". If a program never has anything to strive for or anything to compare to they will never get better. If USD just simply blows off what is happening around them, guess what, it will never get better. I think many of the Northern Sun programs outdraw USD right now at the gates. That is a problem Yote Fans, sorry if I had to burst the incubator bubble but things need to get much better. Maybe the person that works for Sayler that is in charge of getting people to the games needs a bit of a fire lit under his/her ass to think or a different strategy because what is happening now isn't cutting it with fans in the stands. BTW the more USD pampers to the Howling Pack members and the more they make the ordinary fan less relevant pushes me further and further away from attending games, NOT more likely to attend. Think about this. A family of four can buy seasons tickets for basketball and football and spend close to $1000.00 on the athletic department but if they are not a howling pack member they do not receive the same benefit as a fan that might be a howling pack member that never supports the programs with being in attendance. Even the non howling pack member can not have season tickets, go to about half the games, spend about $500.00 and not get the same benefit as a member. What is more valuable to USD. The howling pack member that pays a membership fee to not show up most of the time, but yet get benefits over a more dedicated fan that happens not to be a member but shows up to many games, cheers loud etc. I believe the entire system is flawed and more should be made for people in attendance that pay for tickets period. Whatever it is the bottom line is that attendance is a major problem right now and i think more needs to be done to get the average fan to games instead of just giving benefits to the select few, catering to them and forgetting about the rest, btw those same people that aren't showing up for games like the one yesterday. |
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Post by usdlaw on Mar 18, 2011 10:01:56 GMT -6
Coyote Fan I rarely take the opportunity to exchange in a direct discussion with you because I'd rather visit the dentist, but your comments about the Howling Pack require a response. As anyone knows from my posts I am heavily involved in the HP and I was offended by your comments. Do you even know the primary goal of the HP? It is to raise scholarships for our student athletes. I, along with several others, spend a great deal of time working to raise money so USD can offer the scholarships that it does. Why, so we have a better product on the field/court so people like you don't complain to high heaven about USD losses. Next, the athletic department offers primary seating to HP members because that is how it is done at all universities across the country. You've done enough research into facilities, maybe you could have figured that out. It's called a reward to those that are giving of their hard earned money and time to the University. There is nothing wrong with that. Moreover, you act like the HP is some prestigious expensive club. It is not. You can join for $0.01 technically, but have to give at least $100 a year to be able to take advantage of the benefits, which include, as you seem to allude, primary seating. That is $8.33 a month. Last time I checked, even a college kid can probably afford that if they really wanted to budget for it. I recognize you haven't joined for your own personal reasons as we have discussed, but don't knock the very individuals who are giving of their time and money to this University. I take great offense to that. Additionally, in case you haven't figured it out, the HP has spent considerable time and effort in the past few years to appease the "ordinary everyday fan", as you call them. The changes and increases in benefits have been specifically done for the lower $ clubs in the HP. What I assume your biggest beef is that only HP members were allowed to buy seats prior to game day. There is nothing wrong with that, considering there were only two business days prior to game day. That is how other universities do it too. They take care of donors first. It's not an arm and a leg to be a donor. It's $8.33 a month. Hit the dollar menu at McDonald's one day a month instead of Subway and you are there. Attendance may have been under a 1,000 people because it was St Patty's Day and basically opening round of March Madness. I was glad to see about 20 football players there. Were you even there? I didn't see you. Lastly, in case you haven't figured it out in a perfect world every fan would be a HP member. But I recognize that won't happen. You complain so much- about losses, certain coaches, the HP, certain athletic department people, that no one comments on your facilities posts, that attendance is low, that USD doesn't win enough to your standards, that basically every coach should be fired, I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on, but yet you expect everyone else to do the dirty work and provide the financial support for the U's transition to D1. If you don't want to join, fine. I recognize not everyone is in a financial position to join, or have the desire to join. But don't specifically target those people who care enough about the U to provide their own financial support to it. The HP welcomes anyone and everyone, and the athletic department welcomes any and all fans to come whether they are HP members or not. The athletic department has never treated a non HP fan as a second class citizen. Man I wish the saying you are only as strong as your weakest link weren't true.  |
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Post by Yote 53 on Mar 18, 2011 10:56:44 GMT -6
I echo those comments. Thank you for taking the time to formulate such a well thouht out post. It saved me the time putting together a rebuttal, though mine would have been shorter and full of expletives.
Oh, and good job ladies.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Mar 18, 2011 11:57:57 GMT -6
It's funny CF#1, you want to always say that I like to always have things be about me. Well guess what you are the one that makes them about me more often than not. Just stick to the topic at hand and don't make this about me. BTW you dont have to read anything or delay when you go to bed, that a YOU problem not a ME problem. I have the freedom to write and you have the freedom not to read. Don't complain to me about you having to read anything. I suggest putting me on ignore. By the way more people read and post because of me being here not the opposite. When I left the board it died, plain and simple. Just the facts. Coyote Fan, you rambling idiot, I do have to read EVERY post because I am the ADMIN and that's my job as the ADMIN of this board, so I do have to read EVERY STUPID THING YOU TYPE! Good job ladies, and it would be nice to know what happened in the game since Coyote Fan wants this to be about a "bad" seat for him and not USD advancing in the WBI. |
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Post by usdlaw on Mar 18, 2011 12:00:30 GMT -6
Thanks Yote 53. Sorry, I was long winded before law school.  What frustrates me even more is to not only wake up to this negative dribble, but that we should be focusing on a first for USD athletics. The women won the first ever post season D1 basketball game in school history, heck isn't this the first ever post season win by any team in D1 history. But no, we have to read another negative rant by Coyote Fan. I'm sorry I added to the non-focus of what is really important, the ladies excellent win, but I was fired up when I read his posts. |
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Mar 18, 2011 12:01:39 GMT -6
Coyote Fan I rarely take the opportunity to exchange in a direct discussion with you because I'd rather visit the dentist, but your comments about the Howling Pack require a response. As anyone knows from my posts I am heavily involved in the HP and I was offended by your comments. Do you even know the primary goal of the HP? It is to raise scholarships for our student athletes. I, along with several others, spend a great deal of time working to raise money so USD can offer the scholarships that it does. Why, so we have a better product on the field/court so people like you don't complain to high heaven about USD losses. Next, the athletic department offers primary seating to HP members because that is how it is done at all universities across the country. You've done enough research into facilities, maybe you could have figured that out. It's called a reward to those that are giving of their hard earned money and time to the University. There is nothing wrong with that. Moreover, you act like the HP is some prestigious expensive club. It is not. You can join for $0.01 technically, but have to give at least $100 a year to be able to take advantage of the benefits, which include, as you seem to allude, primary seating. That is $8.33 a month. Last time I checked, even a college kid can probably afford that if they really wanted to budget for it. I recognize you haven't joined for your own personal reasons as we have discussed, but don't knock the very individuals who are giving of their time and money to this University. I take great offense to that. Additionally, in case you haven't figured it out, the HP has spent considerable time and effort in the past few years to appease the "ordinary everyday fan", as you call them. The changes and increases in benefits have been specifically done for the lower $ clubs in the HP. What I assume your biggest beef is that only HP members were allowed to buy seats prior to game day. There is nothing wrong with that, considering there were only two business days prior to game day. That is how other universities do it too. They take care of donors first. It's not an arm and a leg to be a donor. It's $8.33 a month. Hit the dollar menu at McDonald's one day a month instead of Subway and you are there. Attendance may have been under a 1,000 people because it was St Patty's Day and basically opening round of March Madness. I was glad to see about 20 football players there. Were you even there? I didn't see you. Lastly, in case you haven't figured it out in a perfect world every fan would be a HP member. But I recognize that won't happen. You complain so much- about losses, certain coaches, the HP, certain athletic department people, that no one comments on your facilities posts, that attendance is low, that USD doesn't win enough to your standards, that basically every coach should be fired, I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on, but yet you expect everyone else to do the dirty work and provide the financial support for the U's transition to D1. If you don't want to join, fine. I recognize not everyone is in a financial position to join, or have the desire to join. But don't specifically target those people who care enough about the U to provide their own financial support to it. The HP welcomes anyone and everyone, and the athletic department welcomes any and all fans to come whether they are HP members or not. The athletic department has never treated a non HP fan as a second class citizen. Man I wish the saying you are only as strong as your weakest link weren't true. Also add in the fact that the state tournaments are going on in SF, Aberdeen and Rapid City. That didn't help either. Coyote Fan, wake up and smell the coffee. USD law is right, this has been going on for a LONG time at other universities. How about you join us in reality some day. |
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Mar 18, 2011 12:02:57 GMT -6
Thanks Yote 53. Sorry, I was long winded before law school. What frustrates me even more is to not only wake up to this negative dribble, but that we should be focusing on a first for USD athletics. The women won the first ever post season D1 basketball game in school history, heck isn't this the first ever post season win by any team in D1 history. But no, we have to read another negative rant by Coyote Fan. I'm sorry I added to the non-focus of what is really important, the ladies excellent win, but I was fired up when I read his posts. It's all good USDlaw, I enjoyed your post. Were you at the game? And yes, congrats to the women, even if Coyote Fan doesn't care about them. |
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Post by usdlaw on Mar 18, 2011 12:07:38 GMT -6
Back to the game - if the women play defense like that they are tough to beat. Boss just dominated their big girl #15 I think. Stacia Robertson played well too in her defensive minutes guarding her. The only girl that played well offensively for them was the girl covered in tatoos, I think #24.
Offensively we struggled quite a bit really. Free throws were not good, we missed several down the stretch - good thing the game was not close. I think USD started 0-9 or close to it, didn't score the first 5+ minutes. But the defense kept it close, and never let Idaho get comfotable.
Our guards defended the perimeter well. Such a great effort. Hegge and Wilson played well offensively. Robertson has some good quick moves and good feet work. THe defender didn't know which way she was turning most of the time. We missed some easy bunnys at the end too.
Really, the game could easily have been won by 30 points. But I think the girls were either nervous or too tenative to start the game - offesively anyway.
They said Boss had seven blocks, I thought she had a dozen easy. She altered sooooooooo many shots.
A great win, and I'm glad I made the trip to Verm last night.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Mar 18, 2011 12:57:08 GMT -6
Thanks USD law! Yeah I am a big fan of Robertson and I think she is going to be a STUD offensively and defensively. I was thinking Boss could have a big game defensively so it was good to see that. Hopefully the offense plays better against Cal-Bakersfield, and now that they have a game under their belt that should help.
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Post by yoteforever on Mar 18, 2011 13:47:26 GMT -6
Overall, it was a very entertaining game. The Coyotes really ran the floor well compared to Idaho, and that transition accounted for a few easy baskets. Hegge, Boss, and Robertson were all pretty good. The Bledsoe got hot in a 3 minute stretch with 2 long 3's and a layup and a great pass for a layup.
The only overall negative for us was the start. We were ICE COLD the first 5-6 minutes. But Idaho couldn't stretch the lead, and once we hit our stride, we did what we do best.
Nice win for the coaches and players. Good luck in Bakersfield.
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