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Post by kiyoat on Mar 4, 2020 6:14:30 GMT -6
Who's next?
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 4, 2020 8:13:12 GMT -6
I voted for Billups and Turgeon. Getting into the SLT won't save his (Billups's) job.
Turgeon is a good coach, but whatever reason he is on admin leave might mean a "lateral move" in his future, especially with the success they have now had at the end of the season.
Nelson already weathered the storm with her administration, so I think they'll give her some time to rebuild.
Lange hasn't shown much, but... she must have something on Trev Alberts.
Brewster has one more year on his contract. UND can't afford to fire him yet.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 4, 2020 8:55:13 GMT -6
Joe Scott and Rodney Billups records at Denver (with average attendance) | coach | year | record | conf | postsn | attend | | Scott | 2008 | 11-19 | SBC 7-11 |
| 2454 | | Scott | 2009 | 15-16 | SBC 9-9 |
| 2128 | | Scott | 2010 | 19-13 | SBC 10-8 |
| 1979 | | Scott | 2011 | 13-17 | SBC 9-7 |
| 3388 | | Scott | 2012 | 22-9 | SBC 11-5 |
| 7360 | | Scott | 2013 | 22-10 | WAC 16-2 | NIT 2nd | 3312 | | Scott | 2014 | 16-15 | Sum 8-6 |
| 3119 | | Scott | 2015 | 12-18 | Sum 6-10 |
| 1963 | | Scott | 2016 | 16-15 | Sum 7-9 |
| 1675 | | Billups | 2017 | 16-14 | Sum 8-8 |
| 1629 | | Billups | 2018 | 15-15 | Sum 8-6 |
| 1204 | | Billups | 2019 | 8-22 | Sum 3-13 |
| 1158 | | Billups | 2020 | 7-23 | Sum 3-13 |
| 990 |
Clearly the attendance at Denver is tightly correlated with the W/L record (as with most places). The potential is there for a money-making program with the right coach IMO. Their fans probably showed up better in the Sun Belt, too, but I think winning is the bigger factor. |
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Post by yote18 on Mar 4, 2020 14:45:16 GMT -6
I think Lange is gone after this season. She just hasn’t shown the results that would justify her staying. After this season across summit basketball, I think all schools outside of the Dakota’s need to take a deep look at their staffs to determine if there are areas they can improve on.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 11, 2020 8:45:40 GMT -6
Brewster out at UND.... Poll locked.
Who are the two voters that preditcted it?
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 11, 2020 8:56:17 GMT -6
Impressed with this decision. I think Brewster was recruiting OK, but his coaching was turrible. Better for them to nip it in the bud than let things degrade any further. Their fan support was starting to wane along with their chances of competing in the Summit. If they hadn't fired Brew, they would be turning into NDSU WBB 2.0 IMO. Now let's see if they make a good hire.
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Post by elcoyote on Mar 11, 2020 10:17:47 GMT -6
Impressed with this decision. I think Brewster was recruiting OK, but his coaching was turrible. Better for them to nip it in the bud than let things degrade any further. Their fan support was starting to wane along with their chances of competing in the Summit. If they hadn't fired Brew, they would be turning into NDSU WBB 2.0 IMO. Now let's see if they make a good hire. Seemed like his teams were more interested in fouls and cheap shots than they were in making baskets. Didn't they lead the nation, or were close, in fouls the past two seasons? That certainly has to be on the coach to a large degree. |
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Post by hoopsmom on Mar 11, 2020 10:44:02 GMT -6
Brewster out at UND.... Poll locked. Who are the two voters that preditcted it? Me |
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 11, 2020 10:45:35 GMT -6
Impressed with this decision. I think Brewster was recruiting OK, but his coaching was turrible. Better for them to nip it in the bud than let things degrade any further. Their fan support was starting to wane along with their chances of competing in the Summit. If they hadn't fired Brew, they would be turning into NDSU WBB 2.0 IMO. Now let's see if they make a good hire. Seemed like his teams were more interested in fouls and cheap shots than they were in making baskets. Didn't they lead the nation, or were close, in fouls the past two seasons? That certainly has to be on the coach to a large degree. They led the Summit. Not sure about nation. This year his strategy seemed to be: go fast and don't play defense. There is some talk on the UND board about upgrading size or talent on their roster. I think they actually have decent size and talent. Certainly better than their record would suggest. I think the right coach could turn that program around a lot easier than what Collins has had to do in Fargo. It will be interesting to see. While I like having the SD schools dominate the Summit, we need a better conference as a whole to raise our profile. Collins is doing that, and the attendance should follow. Fans actually care about this sport in the Dakotas, and having all four teams playing well will really raise the national profile IMO. |
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Post by elcoyote on Mar 11, 2020 11:06:18 GMT -6
Seemed like his teams were more interested in fouls and cheap shots than they were in making baskets. Didn't they lead the nation, or were close, in fouls the past two seasons? That certainly has to be on the coach to a large degree. They led the Summit. Not sure about nation. This year his strategy seemed to be: go fast and don't play defense. There is some talk on the UND board about upgrading size or talent on their roster. I think they actually have decent size and talent. Certainly better than their record would suggest. I think the right coach could turn that program around a lot easier than what Collins has had to do in Fargo. It will be interesting to see. While I like having the SD schools dominate the Summit, we need a better conference as a whole to raise our profile. Collins is doing that, and the attendance should follow. Fans actually care about this sport in the Dakotas, and having all four teams playing well will really raise the national profile IMO. Pretty sure I read somewhere it was one or two nationally. Anyway, agree with you 100% on the need for other teams to get better because, let's face it, although it's nice to appreciate the talent and skill of the players, blowout games really aren't all that much fun to watch. I'd trade one Drake game for a hundred Ft Wayne games. |
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 11, 2020 11:11:48 GMT -6
Totally missed this yesterday:
Not a huge surprise. I was hoping the changes she had made would pay off. They were marginally more competitive this year than last, but it didn't translate into wins. Not good enough.
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Mar 11, 2020 11:29:49 GMT -6
They led the Summit. Not sure about nation. This year his strategy seemed to be: go fast and don't play defense. There is some talk on the UND board about upgrading size or talent on their roster. I think they actually have decent size and talent. Certainly better than their record would suggest. I think the right coach could turn that program around a lot easier than what Collins has had to do in Fargo. It will be interesting to see. While I like having the SD schools dominate the Summit, we need a better conference as a whole to raise our profile. Collins is doing that, and the attendance should follow. Fans actually care about this sport in the Dakotas, and having all four teams playing well will really raise the national profile IMO. Pretty sure I read somewhere it was one or two nationally. Anyway, agree with you 100% on the need for other teams to get better because, let's face it, although it's nice to appreciate the talent and skill of the players, blowout games really aren't all that much fun to watch. I'd trade one Drake game for a hundred Ft Wayne games. I actually thought they had improved quite a bit this year with a pretty young team. |
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Mar 11, 2020 11:31:23 GMT -6
Totally missed this yesterday: Not a huge surprise. I was hoping the changes she had made would pay off. They were marginally more competitive this year than last, but it didn't translate into wins. Not good enough. This one is pretty disappointing. |
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 11, 2020 11:56:48 GMT -6
Pretty sure I read somewhere it was one or two nationally. Anyway, agree with you 100% on the need for other teams to get better because, let's face it, although it's nice to appreciate the talent and skill of the players, blowout games really aren't all that much fun to watch. I'd trade one Drake game for a hundred Ft Wayne games. I actually thought they had improved quite a bit this year with a pretty young team. Fort Wayne or UND? I'll agree with you on Fort Wayne. I think Nelson is a good coach. She has probably the least talent on her roster than anyone in the Summit. Part of that is the shakeup and transfers after her administrative leave incident. If she can recruit a little, she will have some success in the Horizon, I think. As for UND, they regressed through the year. |
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Mar 11, 2020 12:02:51 GMT -6
I actually thought they had improved quite a bit this year with a pretty young team. Fort Wayne or UND? I'll agree with you on Fort Wayne. I think Nelson is a good coach. She has probably the least talent on her roster than anyone in the Summit. Part of that is the shakeup and transfers after her administrative leave incident. If she can recruit a little, she will have some success in the Horizon, I think. As for UND, they regressed through the year. UND I thought was improved they were awful last year. Fort Wayne should be able to some what compete IUPUI won the Horizon tournament this season. |
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