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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Feb 8, 2021 14:44:14 GMT -6
The biggest subplot for me for college basketball below the highest levels on the men's side is the fact that this season doesn't count eligibility-wise. Anybody heard anything or have any idea regarding whether or not any or all of Sjerven, Lamb or Korngable intend to return next season?
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Post by yotefan90 on Feb 8, 2021 14:45:25 GMT -6
I thought I saw in the story that Mick did on Chloe indicated that she was coming back for next season.
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Feb 8, 2021 14:54:00 GMT -6
That'll be huge. It'll also give her an outside shot at becoming the all-time leading scorer in program history and a lock for top 3 if she stays healthy. It's going to be so interesting to see how having a bunch of youngsters that essentially get two freshman seasons develop over the years as well. The ripple effects of how kids and coaches use this season could be big.
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Post by seayote on Feb 8, 2021 15:10:40 GMT -6
If Monica Arens doesn't come back this year, I wonder if she'll have two seasons left, if she so chooses? This "super-senior" opportunity exists for everyone, and I can't imagine the impact it will have on recruiting. There's an entire class of high schoolers out there who will be affected. I don't know what Coach P's strategy is, but if some of our women return for an extra season and we have a chance at some strong recruits, I'd imagine some of this years reserves transfer out.
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Feb 8, 2021 15:16:21 GMT -6
That's just it. I don't think anybody knows how this is going to play out and what the effect will be on recruiting and roster construction. Playing it all right or wrong is going to have serious long-term implications for programs.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 8, 2021 17:02:05 GMT -6
I've also heard that at least "some" of the seniors are considering it. Nothing definite. I'm sure they don't have to know right now.
I was thinking about exactly this last night, and I have to assume that this will be a boost to women's sports a little more than men's (playing pro is less of a draw), and mid-majors more than high-majors (especially in football, basketball, baseball due to pros luring the best players away).
Some schools will not be in a financial situation to be able to offer additional scholarships, (especially after Covid) so that will be a haves/have nots factor.
Bottom line is that the quality of the sports product should be slightly improved across the board, and the opportunities for high school athletes will be slightly dampened.
Because it affects current freshmen as well, the effects will linger for four years.
Uncharted territory.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 8, 2021 17:03:08 GMT -6
The grad transfer market is about to get even stupider.
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Feb 8, 2021 17:14:23 GMT -6
Agreed on all counts, kiyoat. Can't imagine it changes a ton for the high-level men's sports with big money ... but it could be a game-changer for careers on the court and the sideline at the lower D-I and D-II levels.
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Post by gopheryote on Feb 8, 2021 17:16:17 GMT -6
Got to think if Sjerven is WNBA draft worthy right now (no idea if she is), she tries that path. If not, I can't see her being in a better situation to get drafted by going to a P5 team and re-learning a system. Now, on the men's side - throughout the entire SL - I suspect that is a VERY different story. I have to think any all-conference-level senior/grad transfer eligible player will look at either ending a 5 year career at P5 or playing 2 at P5 if they have redshirted previously. The Mooney path will suddenly make sense for a lot of guys...
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Feb 8, 2021 17:20:06 GMT -6
Sjerven is definitely the one I wonder about. She graduated from high school in 2016. She's been on two campuses already, sat out a transfer season and may have pro opportunities. It'll be an interesting decision.
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Post by GoYotes on Feb 8, 2021 17:28:28 GMT -6
I believe Selland will complete her undergrad degree this year. I heard at one time she planned on going on to get a physical therapy degree after completing her undergrad. Is there any school in SD that has a PT program?
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Post by oldhare on Feb 8, 2021 19:03:50 GMT -6
I believe that the scholarship situation for those that stay beyond the normal senior year will not be effected. It will require the school to fund extra scholarships for additional freshman. It would move the number from 15 to include "seniors" as additional scholarships during this time. Some schools may not be able to afford the cost in the programs. This is where the earlier statement about haves and have nots comes to focus. If you have 3 players remain for another season, then you would be able to fund 18 scholarships. I am not sure how the second year will be viewed. That is where the fund raising becomes reality for each school. It is possible some schools will not be able to take advantage of this situation.
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Post by ndfan on Feb 8, 2021 21:07:59 GMT -6
I am from North Dakota saw this thread here and was wondering how this is going to work with roster construction in the future because my understanding all programs were limited to 15 scholarships and now if you have all these players staying on for extra year how are you going to sign new people if you are limited to 15 scholarships. I have to believe some of these players if they do stay on they will have to pay their way or teams will have limited scholarships for future players. Or is this question of real stars in small and mid majors getting money from the big schools to fill out there teams for this extra year of playing time. I think this is going to be real problem for teams like in Summit conference where they recruit young highly talented players by giving full rides and immediate playing time now number of these recruits may have to sit extra year where they may look else where when deciding on school. I also agree this is going to make gap between the have and have nots even get wider i believe. What were seeing here in North Dakota higher education has had to adjust to less funding and it also reflects back into sports at UND i am wondering if that is same in South Dakota. It seems that schools in Summit each have their sports that they invest into and excel at but very few seem to have that across the board ability to highly invest in all their sports. I wish i could say that we do but i don't see it anymore not like when we were part of old North Central Conference days.
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Post by yotefan90 on Feb 8, 2021 22:11:57 GMT -6
Each school will be different due to their senior class situation, transfers and the like. USD women have 5 seniors listed on their 15 player roster and 3 signed commits for next year. If no one left this year's team, they would be 2 over the normal limit of 15. Seems very manageable for Dawn and staff.
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Post by yoteforever on Feb 9, 2021 7:14:20 GMT -6
I am from North Dakota saw this thread here and was wondering how this is going to work with roster construction in the future because my understanding all programs were limited to 15 scholarships and now if you have all these players staying on for extra year how are you going to sign new people if you are limited to 15 scholarships. I have to believe some of these players if they do stay on they will have to pay their way or teams will have limited scholarships for future players. Or is this question of real stars in small and mid majors getting money from the big schools to fill out there teams for this extra year of playing time. I think this is going to be real problem for teams like in Summit conference where they recruit young highly talented players by giving full rides and immediate playing time now number of these recruits may have to sit extra year where they may look else where when deciding on school. I also agree this is going to make gap between the have and have nots even get wider i believe. What were seeing here in North Dakota higher education has had to adjust to less funding and it also reflects back into sports at UND i am wondering if that is same in South Dakota. It seems that schools in Summit each have their sports that they invest into and excel at but very few seem to have that across the board ability to highly invest in all their sports. I wish i could say that we do but i don't see it anymore not like when we were part of old North Central Conference days. No. This year is going to be a one time exception for all sports that qualify. In essence, if you had 3 seniors supposed to be graduating and 3 incoming freshman taking their scholarships, next year all 18 can be on roster with scholarships IF the university elects to fund them. So using my example if you had 3 staying, UND funds them for next year then after the 2022 season those 3 players plus any new seniors would be gone. So let’s say between carryover seniors (3) and this years juniors (4) you would have 7 players depart after 22 season and only 4 schollies available for the 4 natural seniors departing. I’ve been told not all schools are going to fund the extra year though due to budget complications. Plus I do think many athletes that have the so called “extra season” if they want will depart and get on with your life. That being said, what a great opportunity for those girls to get your masters or work towards PhD.
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