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Post by elcoyote on May 11, 2021 7:52:57 GMT -6
Interesting that you'd take the time to come over here to see or care what anybody here thinks. Seek professional help. It’s ok. Today I learned that punching down is the way of the “contender”, and its not at all classless. The next time we have a major accomplishment in a sport, we should all remember to go out of our way to chastise any fans of other programs that produce any “sour grapes” comments (instead of just celebrating the accomplishment).“The way of the contender” Somewhat ironic that a fan of SDSU would call out anyone seeing that they're the pros at belittling anything and everything that a Coyote athlete accomplishes. What impressed me the most about the SDSU football team this spring was how they were able to be the only team in the MVFC, maybe even in the nation, that avoided having even one single case of Covid on their entire squad, especially given that South Dakota was a hotbed of the disease and virtually no restrictions were in place here. Incredible!
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Post by steelsd on May 11, 2021 8:01:45 GMT -6
Well, I'm seeing a couple of posters here who don't seem to demonstrate the level of "class" or mental health they seem to hold others too. Speaking of the need to seek out professional help... I was pointing out how the playoff field for this season is a field of the same powerful programs that you would see in any typical year. I just found it interesting that one poster was dismissing the accomplishments of the teams in the field based on, reasons, was somehow less impressive than it would be in a typical year. To me it seems the teams left standing at the end of the year overcame more obstacles than similar teams in a typical year. So it's interesting that someone would so dismiss the accomplishments of these student athletes. Heck, I applaud athletes for all the teams for putting their best foot forward in the face of all adversity. And yes, I would say the same thing and call out a poster on my own board if the roles were reversed. Coyote Fan and Captain Coyote raised good points earlier in the post so it's not like my opinion is unheard of here. No one is dismissing that this season has been different from a normal season. All teams faced challenges that they would not face in a typical year. And there is certainly no guarantee that the upcoming season that is being played at it's typical time won't face cancellations or teams giving up when thing turn sour for them (ie Illinois State). Do we honestly think there won't be positive tests this upcoming season? How many games need to be cancelled before we put an * next to that year as well? What's to stop a team from "opting out" from next season for the reasons they used in the Spring? Are people really going to call them out for it when, not if, it happens? Basketball was played at it's normal time but that didn't stop teams from "opting out" due to health concerns (although all the teams that did that were having bad years). Do we put an * next to Baylor and Stanford's titles? Idk, I don't think we are going to see a "normal" season for awhile yet in any sport. Likely not until a positive Covid case is treated the same as a positive flu test anyway. To deny respect to the teams that overcame all the obstacles outside of just W's and L's is dismissing the efforts of these athletes, and yes, that is sour grapes no matter who your favorite team is. I think this weird season will have some interesting overall impact for the upcoming season. Some teams, like SDSU, will come into it with a lot of momentum and confidence based off how the season played out. Some teams, like Illinois State, may have set their programs back for years by how poorly they handled it. Their coach quit on them and players jumped ship. I guess I'm curious how USD fans see this last season impacting the upcoming season. The teams that took the lessons they learned about their team from this season and quickly can make the best adjustments will have a leg up on the next season. I didn't really see any of the USD games so I'm curious what positive things you all saw that you can build off. I sense the line play was a negative and needs to be addressed based off comments I have read. Totally throwing the BS flag on this one. Anyone from USD who is bold enough to post on your board with either a positive or negative comment gets ridiculed and summarily dismissed. Nobody gets called out for it. But thanks for taking the time to come over here and inform us all on how wonderful you are. You mean like you are doing with me? I'm just curious why (outside of self righteousness) you are responding to me if you don't have anything to say regarding the substance of what I posted. Of all the things I said in that post that is what you focused on? Just move along to something more worthy of your precious time then. I suspect you are projecting when you think I need professional help.
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Post by steelsd on May 11, 2021 8:03:43 GMT -6
It’s ok. Today I learned that punching down is the way of the “contender”, and its not at all classless. The next time we have a major accomplishment in a sport, we should all remember to go out of our way to chastise any fans of other programs that produce any “sour grapes” comments (instead of just celebrating the accomplishment).“The way of the contender” Somewhat ironic that a fan of SDSU would call out anyone seeing that they're the pros at belittling anything and everything that a Coyote athlete accomplishes. What impressed me the most about the SDSU football team this spring was how they were able to be the only team in the MVFC, maybe even in the nation, that avoided having even one single case of Covid on their entire squad, especially given that South Dakota was a hotbed of the disease and virtually no restrictions were in place here. Incredible! The team had a pre-season meeting where the captains laid out the goals for the season. Number one on that list was "protect your teammates." I'm not sure what the measures they took was, but it was interesting that the players really took it into their own hands to protect each other. I'm sure many other teams had the same goals, but definitely kudos to the student athletes for making that a priority and following through on it.
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Post by Yote 53 on May 11, 2021 8:33:21 GMT -6
Somewhat ironic that a fan of SDSU would call out anyone seeing that they're the pros at belittling anything and everything that a Coyote athlete accomplishes. What impressed me the most about the SDSU football team this spring was how they were able to be the only team in the MVFC, maybe even in the nation, that avoided having even one single case of Covid on their entire squad, especially given that South Dakota was a hotbed of the disease and virtually no restrictions were in place here. Incredible! The team had a pre-season meeting where the captains laid out the goals for the season. Number one on that list was "protect your teammates." I'm not sure what the measures they took was, but it was interesting that the players really took it into their own hands to protect each other. I'm sure many other teams had the same goals, but definitely kudos to the student athletes for making that a priority and following through on it. So you don't think every team had that meeting? You're implication is that the USD players didn't have that meeting or didn't care enough about the football season to avoid COVID? Because you can 100% control a freaking virus. Maybe instead of putting Dr. Fauci in charge the country should have put Coach Stig in charge of Covid policy. He seems to have eradicated it from his football program. You are implying that the "power programs" all persevered and avoided the COVID outbreaks because they cared more and were willing to sacrifice. Do you really think that to be true or is it just as plausible that they cared so much about football results that they swept Covid positives under the rug or suppressed testing. I mean, can't test positive if you don't test, amirite? No, the season is an asterisk and doesn't count because too many teams didn't participate, too many teams didn't get their season in, too many teams flat out quit on the season. USD only played half their games and only had one home game and that was entirely beyond their control. I've also been saying this since the beginning of the season and been very consistent about how this season really doesn't count. It's not something I came up with last Saturday because SDSU won a game.
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Post by kiyoat on May 11, 2021 8:45:17 GMT -6
It’s ok. Today I learned that punching down is the way of the “contender”, and its not at all classless. The next time we have a major accomplishment in a sport, we should all remember to go out of our way to chastise any fans of other programs that produce any “sour grapes” comments (instead of just celebrating the accomplishment).“The way of the contender” Somewhat ironic that a fan of SDSU would call out anyone seeing that they're the pros at belittling anything and everything that a Coyote athlete accomplishes. What impressed me the most about the SDSU football team this spring was how they were able to be the only team in the MVFC, maybe even in the nation, that avoided having even one single case of Covid on their entire squad, especially given that South Dakota was a hotbed of the disease and virtually no restrictions were in place here. Incredible! Just hold on a second. Are you s omehow suggesting that the fo otball program might have covered up something that would have hurt them competitiv ely? No way.
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Post by GoYotes on May 11, 2021 9:10:26 GMT -6
The team had a pre-season meeting where the captains laid out the goals for the season. Number one on that list was "protect your teammates." I'm not sure what the measures they took was, but it was interesting that the players really took it into their own hands to protect each other. I'm sure many other teams had the same goals, but definitely kudos to the student athletes for making that a priority and following through on it. So you don't think every team had that meeting? You're implication is that the USD players didn't have that meeting or didn't care enough about the football season to avoid COVID? Because you can 100% control a freaking virus. Maybe instead of putting Dr. Fauci in charge the country should have put Coach Stig in charge of Covid policy. He seems to have eradicated it from his football program. You are implying that the "power programs" all persevered and avoided the COVID outbreaks because they cared more and were willing to sacrifice. Do you really think that to be true or is it just as plausible that they cared so much about football results that they swept Covid positives under the rug or suppressed testing. I mean, can't test positive if you don't test, amirite? No, the season is an asterisk and doesn't count because too many teams didn't participate, too many teams didn't get their season in, too many teams flat out quit on the season. USD only played half their games and only had one home game and that was entirely beyond their control. I've also been saying this since the beginning of the season and been very consistent about how this season really doesn't count. It's not something I came up with last Saturday because SDSU won a game. Stig can't even protect his team from the common cramp, let alone a virus that has a mind of it's own.
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Post by Yote 53 on May 11, 2021 9:16:31 GMT -6
Somewhat ironic that a fan of SDSU would call out anyone seeing that they're the pros at belittling anything and everything that a Coyote athlete accomplishes. What impressed me the most about the SDSU football team this spring was how they were able to be the only team in the MVFC, maybe even in the nation, that avoided having even one single case of Covid on their entire squad, especially given that South Dakota was a hotbed of the disease and virtually no restrictions were in place here. Incredible! Just hold on a second. Are you s omehow suggesting that the fo otball program might have covered up something that would have hurt them competitiv ely? No way. Joose cures Covid, duh.
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Post by steelsd on May 11, 2021 9:22:09 GMT -6
The team had a pre-season meeting where the captains laid out the goals for the season. Number one on that list was "protect your teammates." I'm not sure what the measures they took was, but it was interesting that the players really took it into their own hands to protect each other. I'm sure many other teams had the same goals, but definitely kudos to the student athletes for making that a priority and following through on it. So you don't think every team had that meeting? You're implication is that the USD players didn't have that meeting or didn't care enough about the football season to avoid COVID? Because you can 100% control a freaking virus. Maybe instead of putting Dr. Fauci in charge the country should have put Coach Stig in charge of Covid policy. He seems to have eradicated it from his football program.
I'm sure they did. In fact had you kept reading I said that very thing. And Idk, maybe the government should have put him in charge. Seems the sample indicates the SDSU program was better at controlling the spread than the government. And yes, this is sarcasm...You are implying that the "power programs" all persevered and avoided the COVID outbreaks because they cared more and were willing to sacrifice. Do you really think that to be true or is it just as plausible that they cared so much about football results that they swept Covid positives under the rug or suppressed testing. I mean, can't test positive if you don't test, amirite?
Wow, you are really inferring a lot from what I said. So you are basically accusing SDSU of cheating? You have proof of this do you? Does your board allow for posters to make allegations like this with no proof? Just interesting that a moderator of a board would blatantly accuse another team of cheating without any proof to back it up. Interesting... And I never indicated that the "power programs" did anything outside of be there at the end, like in a normal year. I don't know that they avoided outbreaks any better than other teams that quit or just flat out sucked. Did NDSU not have positive tests that forced the cancellation of the game with you? I'm assuming other teams in the playoffs had positive tests as well and missed games because of that. But I believe the Southern Conference had no missed conference games, so good on them (or bad on them for cheating per Yote 53). But at the end, they won the games they played and were there come playoff time. Like in a normal year. I can't speak for JMU, SHSU, etc. Maybe they cheated too, Idk. But they put a product on the field and given the same circumstances as other teams, they won. The playoff field included JMU, SHSU, SDSU, NDSU, EWU, JSU, and Weber State. What teams were missing that makes this a weak playoff field?No, the season is an asterisk and doesn't count because too many teams didn't participate, too many teams didn't get their season in, too many teams flat out quit on the season. USD only played half their games and only had one home game and that was entirely beyond their control. I've also been saying this since the beginning of the season and been very consistent about how this season really doesn't count. It's not something I came up with last Saturday because SDSU won a game.SDSU had 2 home games, do you have a point here? We played UNI, NDSU, SIU, and UND all on the road. We had a month layoff before traveling up to Fargo. But we didn't make excuses, we played the games we could and made the best of an adverse situation. As did many other teams. And in the end, the playoff field included all the usual suspects and some other good stories and the usual conference champions from weak conferences who didn't belong there. What missing teams did you expect to bump the afore mentioned teams from the playoffs? So I guess it doesn't count because you say so? And you would seriously being saying this if USD and not SDSU was playing in Frisco on Sunday? I think not.
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Post by GoYotes on May 11, 2021 9:34:56 GMT -6
Past events, a/k/a crampgate, do indicate a history of cheating.
I continue to find it amusing that after perhaps the biggest win in the history of SDSU football, granted with an *, a SDSU fan feels the need to come to the USD message board. It indicates one of 2 things: (1) a college student just engaging in some trolling for amusement or (2) an individual with an inferiority complex.
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Post by steelsd on May 11, 2021 9:54:31 GMT -6
Past events, a/k/a crampgate, do indicate a history of cheating. I continue to find it amusing that after perhaps the biggest win in the history of SDSU football, granted with an *, a SDSU fan feels the need to come to the USD message board. It indicates one of 2 things: (1) a college student just engaging in some trolling for amusement or (2) an individual with an inferiority complex. I would be a little careful going there. It's not as though your program is without it's own "events." But this from the guy who thinks a virus has a brain, so... Hopefully you aren't a med school grad.
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Post by gopheryote on May 11, 2021 10:50:59 GMT -6
Somewhat ironic that a fan of SDSU would call out anyone seeing that they're the pros at belittling anything and everything that a Coyote athlete accomplishes. What impressed me the most about the SDSU football team this spring was how they were able to be the only team in the MVFC, maybe even in the nation, that avoided having even one single case of Covid on their entire squad, especially given that South Dakota was a hotbed of the disease and virtually no restrictions were in place here. Incredible! Though off topic a bit, and certainly black-helicopter, I believe SDSU also had the only WBB and MBB teams in the SL without having a Tier 1 case/close contact too. Quite an amazing result to look back on. If that was really the case, then how they handled all those kids through all those months should shared far and wide, and a model for all large groups to follow. I'll give Brooking credit that they required masks earlier than most SD towns. EDIT: depending on where you want to take this, it could be moved to the smack thread.
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Post by fightsd on May 11, 2021 11:37:24 GMT -6
Well, I'm seeing a couple of posters here who don't seem to demonstrate the level of "class" or mental health they seem to hold others too. Speaking of the need to seek out professional help... I was pointing out how the playoff field for this season is a field of the same powerful programs that you would see in any typical year. I just found it interesting that one poster was dismissing the accomplishments of the teams in the field based on, reasons, was somehow less impressive than it would be in a typical year. To me it seems the teams left standing at the end of the year overcame more obstacles than similar teams in a typical year. So it's interesting that someone would so dismiss the accomplishments of these student athletes. Heck, I applaud athletes for all the teams for putting their best foot forward in the face of all adversity. And yes, I would say the same thing and call out a poster on my own board if the roles were reversed. Coyote Fan and Captain Coyote raised good points earlier in the post so it's not like my opinion is unheard of here. No one is dismissing that this season has been different from a normal season. All teams faced challenges that they would not face in a typical year. And there is certainly no guarantee that the upcoming season that is being played at it's typical time won't face cancellations or teams giving up when thing turn sour for them (ie Illinois State). Do we honestly think there won't be positive tests this upcoming season? How many games need to be cancelled before we put an * next to that year as well? What's to stop a team from "opting out" from next season for the reasons they used in the Spring? Are people really going to call them out for it when, not if, it happens? Basketball was played at it's normal time but that didn't stop teams from "opting out" due to health concerns (although all the teams that did that were having bad years). Do we put an * next to Baylor and Stanford's titles? Idk, I don't think we are going to see a "normal" season for awhile yet in any sport. Likely not until a positive Covid case is treated the same as a positive flu test anyway. To deny respect to the teams that overcame all the obstacles outside of just W's and L's is dismissing the efforts of these athletes, and yes, that is sour grapes no matter who your favorite team is. I think this weird season will have some interesting overall impact for the upcoming season. Some teams, like SDSU, will come into it with a lot of momentum and confidence based off how the season played out. Some teams, like Illinois State, may have set their programs back for years by how poorly they handled it. Their coach quit on them and players jumped ship. I guess I'm curious how USD fans see this last season impacting the upcoming season. The teams that took the lessons they learned about their team from this season and quickly can make the best adjustments will have a leg up on the next season. I didn't really see any of the USD games so I'm curious what positive things you all saw that you can build off. I sense the line play was a negative and needs to be addressed based off comments I have read. You're not wrong, but go pound sand. What did you want to happen when you posted over here? Did you expect people to congratulate you on your patronizing post? Yeah state is still playing and no s*** USD fans would like to be booking flights to Frisco. But what's your point here? Go back to the bunny board where you guys can all j*** each other off talking about state making it through the EASIEST run in the playoffs in the last 20 years.
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Post by Coyote Fan on May 12, 2021 2:03:55 GMT -6
There should be no asterix on this season but I will admit that the Jacks have had a very easy path to the final and I would not call Sam Houston State as tough of an opponent as NDSU seems to get most years.
Why were the Jacks given the #1 seed over at least 2 other undefeated teams.
Holy Cross, Southern Illinois and Delaware is an extremely easy path to Frisco. I will agree with SteelSD that the Jacks had a very tough road schedule to get through but they did drop a game. I would take any national title but this year is by far the title that I would take last of any other year. One advantage for Sam Houston is that they get to stay in state and a very hot day could play to their advantage. Now that I look it could be in the 70's with rain.
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Post by Coyote Fan on May 12, 2021 2:11:56 GMT -6
as far as SteelSD
I have no problem with him here. If he chooses whether on purpose or inadvertently to piss off Coyotes fans than good, because as a fan base or a program we don't get pissed off enough. It needs to happen more often. Remember when Terrell Owens of the 49ers went over to the Dallas 50 yard line and did something derogatory to their precious Star logo. Maybe a rabbit player should do the same. It would be of poor sportsmanship but it seems like there is no internal will to win so maybe something like that would get the team fired up. Disrespect can be the biggest motivator. SteelSD should be welcomed and a great counter debate should be presented. It's not his fault that the SDSU football program has every advantage on the Coyote program that can almost be had. It's the Coyotes job to do something about it.
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Post by Coyote Fan on May 12, 2021 2:14:35 GMT -6
Oh one more thing. Lets give Sam Houston no chance whatsoever. Ha Ha.
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