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Post by gopheryote on Oct 4, 2021 14:07:50 GMT -6
Every other conference tournament resets every year, it was time. The timing of Douple's retirement seems odd to me. Most commissioners do whatever the college presidents say. Sure seems like Douple's retirement, adding St. Thomas, rumor of SLT to rotate with MSP, and changing the ticketing policy is all connected. It would make sense for all the non-SD schools to say rotate it, and the compromise was to re-seat the building. Why would UMKC or the Tommies want to join knowing they are squeezed out of seats from a decision made 10 years ago? That said, it sounds like current ticket holders still get the first shot?
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Post by Yote 53 on Oct 4, 2021 15:27:25 GMT -6
Sounds to me like a total reset every year with a variety of different ticket packages and an opportunity for fans of all schools to get into some ticket packages. That's as it should be. The place will still be packed with blue and red but at least every other fan base will get their shot at tickets.
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Post by usdguy99 on Oct 7, 2021 15:06:58 GMT -6
Let the schools sell the tickets to each of their fan bases and those schools that don't sell their allocation can go back to public purchase. The allocations for schools is a relatively small number of the total tickets sold and normally those tickets would be the seats behind the team during the game the team is involved. After that, the team ticket is not any particular seat. The session tickets are the lion's share of ticket sales which do not involve the tickets for seats behind the team. You can also plan to buy session tickets for all games in order to lock in a spot. Individual game tickets will likely be the last ticket sold before walk up sales. The tickets will be sold before we know the seedings. Also, consider the idea that this is a perfect time to increase ticket revenue for the facility and conference with "premium" seating defined in the arena. Yes, I know that as far as "allocation". What I am saying is to give each school additional tickets to sell in the lower bowl.
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Post by kiyoat on Jan 27, 2022 14:48:36 GMT -6
The new format of the expanded Summit League Tournament (BB) has been released: thesummitleague.org/news/2022/1/27/mens-basketball-summit-league-basketball-championships-set-for-expansion.aspx-I don't think there is any new information than what we had already heard, except this: -No mention of what would happen if UST wins the tournament, either (would the bid go to the runner-up or the regular season champ?) -Basically it adds two play-in games for the bottom 4 teams. I like that the top 2 seeds will get a first-round opponent that just played the day before, and it maintains the day off that they earned on Saturday, too.
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Post by GoYotes on Jan 27, 2022 15:06:31 GMT -6
Per the article you linked "St. Thomas must complete the five-year Division I transition period to be eligible for the NCAA Tournament. The earliest the Tommies could qualify is in 2026. If the Tommies were to win either the men’s or women’s tournament from 2023-25, then the regular season champion or highest-finishing team besides St. Thomas in the regular season standings would earn the league’s automatic bid to the NCAA Tournament."
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Post by Yotes on Jan 27, 2022 21:14:57 GMT -6
I desperately desire the situation where St Thomas wins the tournament and a different team's fans storm the court because it puts them into March Madness.
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Post by captaincoyote on Jan 27, 2022 21:24:58 GMT -6
I desperately desire the situation where St Thomas wins the tournament and a different team's fans storm the court because it puts them into March Madness. How could you ever repay them?!
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Post by Yotes on Mar 8, 2022 21:14:50 GMT -6
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Post by seayote on Mar 8, 2022 21:34:04 GMT -6
So technically, the Coyotes did beat a tournament qualifier this year. We got Bellarmine by 14 in December.
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Post by Yote 53 on Mar 9, 2022 8:47:59 GMT -6
That was confusing as hell. I was watching with no sound while working out and when Bellarmine won the fans stormed the court, hugs, high fives, then the ticker flashed Jacksonville will receive an NCAA bid. I was like, no way that Jacksonville team receives a bid and this is a two bid conference. Then I figured out what had happened. My first thought was, yep, that could be St. Thomas.
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Post by yote18 on Mar 10, 2022 13:10:39 GMT -6
Speaking of future SLT. The UND fans want the tournament moved out of Sioux Falls due to the competitive advantage it gives to the SD schools. No offense to the ND schools but who would ever attend it in Fargo or GF’s? If you want to kill the leagues crown jewel by putting it in a city no one wants travel to between October-June every year then go for it I guess. They can barely afford to pay for travel now, you’d think a bus trip would be desirable for them (now that they won’t be left out next year). There’s only one other city that would make sense and that’s the TC for media market exposure. Leave it where it is though, simple as that.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 10, 2022 15:57:18 GMT -6
The longer it stays in SF and keeps drawing 8K to 12K a game in the finals, the more confident I am in saying it absolutely can not go anywhere else. Unless we get a completely insane commissioner.
IMO many of the legitimate arguments that could have been made in exclusionary ticket sales practices have been addressed and fixed this year.
Arguments now are essentially just sour grapes. If you want great seats, get on the ball and purchase them when they come out. If you want lower bowl seats, purchase through your team's allotment. Simple as that. Hell, you can now find lower bowl tickets for single sessions at the last minute if you know where to look.
The league office is in Sioux Falls. The geographic center of the conference is now near Plainview, NE. Omaha is probably the closest "Large City" to the center, but they don't care about Summit Basketball. USD is the closest school to the center, followed by UNO, then SDSU.
The SLT didn't make women's basketball important in Vermillion and Brookings, and it isn't the thing that is keeping the North Dakota programs from improving. ND does have fans that will support women's teams, but right now they don't yet have elite coaching, recruiting and program momentum. Don't blame Sioux Falls.
As far as NDSU, I think their fans just blow their travel budgets on Football. That's the only explanation I have for why they don't have a large contingent in the SLT. Their men's team has won plenty of times in a hostile blue arena. Don't tell me it's too hard to travel from ND to Sioux Falls when football fans fly all over the place. It's a matter of priorities.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 10, 2022 16:28:25 GMT -6
I'm sure the Twin Cities would be a more fun destination for fans flying in, but you won't have better attendance. It's like how Las Vegas gets a ton of national conventions and sports tournaments. The community as a whole is pretty jaded to it. Minneapolis won't care as much as Sioux Falls does. Local leaders, businesses, media, sponsors, casual fans, etc. All of that matters to create a buzz around the games.
The only thing I'd change is the fact that the arena is in a crappy part of town. That ship sailed when the new arena was built several years ago. The decision came down to parking availability. The rail yard downtown had not yet been vacated, so they would have had to build a parking ramp or two to get it downtown. Cheaper to use the existing parking around the old arena. Typical cheap Midwesterner plan.
Would have been worth it IMHO. A downtown arena would have been amazing, and would have grown the downtown even more than it already is.
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Post by wrj on Mar 10, 2022 16:45:49 GMT -6
The longer it stays in SF and keeps drawing 8K to 12K a game in the finals, the more confident I am in saying it absolutely can not go anywhere else. Unless we get a completely insane commissioner. IMO many of the legitimate arguments that could have been made in exclusionary ticket sales practices have been addressed and fixed this year. Arguments now are essentially just sour grapes. If you want great seats, get on the ball and purchase them when they come out. If you want lower bowl seats, purchase through your team's allotment. Simple as that. Hell, you can now find lower bowl tickets for single sessions at the last minute if you know where to look. The league office is in Sioux Falls. The geographic center of the conference is now near Plainview, NE. Omaha is probably the closest "Large City" to the center, but they don't care about Summit Basketball. USD is the closest school to the center, followed by UNO, then SDSU. The SLT didn't make women's basketball important in Vermillion and Brookings, and it isn't the thing that is keeping the North Dakota programs from improving. ND does have fans that will support women's teams, but right now they don't yet have elite coaching, recruiting and program momentum. Don't blame Sioux Falls. As far as NDSU, I think their fans just blow their travel budgets on Football. That's the only explanation I have for why they don't have a large contingent in the SLT. Their men's team has won plenty of times in a hostile blue arena. Don't tell me it's too hard to travel from ND to Sioux Falls when football fans fly all over the place. It's a matter of priorities. Well stated.
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Post by hoopsmom on Mar 10, 2022 17:14:33 GMT -6
All the North Dakota site, they say we should host the tournament in whatever school wins the regular season. That would be a nightmare to plan. First of all, where are you going to find hotel rooms for the teams, let alone for the fans, one week in advance? Can you imagine trying to house that many people in the limited hotels in Macomb Illinois? Oh and what about the facilities? You’re not going to be able to fit 10,000 fans in several of the gyms/Arenas in our conference.
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