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Post by announcerbob on Feb 6, 2022 17:07:55 GMT -6
What are the expectation for the TV Announcers doing games for Midco Sports? Home and Away!!! I know my thoughts but wanted to hear what others think!!!
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 6, 2022 17:10:57 GMT -6
Not sure what you are getting at but we are lucky to have Midco covering the Coyotes and I really like Jay doing the play by play. I will admit I do kind of miss Kevin Culhaine. He called it like he saw it and didn't have much of a filter. He didn't always sugar coat things.
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Post by coffeedrinker11 on Feb 6, 2022 18:15:32 GMT -6
I believe Jay is spot on with his take on the games he does. We are fortunate to have him in my opinion.
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Post by elcoyote on Feb 6, 2022 19:57:39 GMT -6
I liked the lady who did the color analysis for our women's game at UND. Her accent was straight out of a character from the movie "Fargo" doncha know.
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Post by hoopsmom on Feb 6, 2022 22:50:40 GMT -6
I know that people on the bunny board are complaining about the announcers. I get the feeling they expect that the announcers should say good things about only their team when they are the home team. In other words, they should be like the guy who was doing Western Illinois games a couple years ago, who would always say “they somehow lucked out on another basket”, whenever a coyote would score…. I like the recent announcers we have had, at both games in North Dakota, and for the game in Frost this week. They are complimentary of talent on both teams, and call it like they see it, rather than being cheerleaders for the home team. They realize that their audience is made up of fans of both teams.
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Post by fightsd on Feb 7, 2022 8:10:35 GMT -6
Not too homer-ish in any one direction is what I'm looking for. I don't remember exactly when it was but there were a couple UND games in years past where the color person was an ex player that was clearly pulling for the home team.
This is reminding me of some of the football color guys we've had over the past couple seasons. It's usually at some school that nobody cares about like WIU or SIU where I'm sure it's a struggle finding people to do it, but they usually have some old DB that vocally chears for the home team or is constantly making comments about the refs blowing the game or something. Not all ex DBs are bad, talking to you Andre lol.
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Post by dave on Feb 7, 2022 9:35:59 GMT -6
I know that people on the bunny board are complaining about the announcers. I get the feeling they expect that the announcers should say good things about only their team when they are the home team. In other words, they should be like the guy who was doing Western Illinois games a couple years ago, who would always say “they somehow lucked out on another basket”, whenever a coyote would score…. I like the recent announcers we have had, at both games in North Dakota, and for the game in Frost this week. They are complimentary of talent on both teams, and call it like they see it, rather than being cheerleaders for the home team. They realize that their audience is made up of fans of both teams. Nope I don't like Brad Knew-It, he's a master of the backhanded compliment. I don't mind if the broadcast crew is somewhat biased toward the team they regularly cover, most of the people watching are probably fans of that team. |
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 7, 2022 10:17:50 GMT -6
I know that people on the bunny board are complaining about the announcers. I get the feeling they expect that the announcers should say good things about only their team when they are the home team. In other words, they should be like the guy who was doing Western Illinois games a couple years ago, who would always say “they somehow lucked out on another basket”, whenever a coyote would score…. I like the recent announcers we have had, at both games in North Dakota, and for the game in Frost this week. They are complimentary of talent on both teams, and call it like they see it, rather than being cheerleaders for the home team. They realize that their audience is made up of fans of both teams. Nope I don't like Brad Knew-It, he's a master of the backhanded compliment. I don't mind if the broadcast crew is somewhat biased toward the team they regularly cover, most of the people watching are probably fans of that team. I disagree. I think Newitt does a good job of not only being objective but also providing quality color commentary. He knows what he is talking about with his coaching background, and also now covers a good deal of high school basketball in this state. I mean, the game is still available for replay on ESPN+. I'd love for Jacks fans to show us "where on the doll Brad hurt them". Give me some literal examples with timestamps of his bias and backhanded compliments or it didn't happen. If I find some time, I might go back through it myself. |
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Post by jacks6106 on Feb 7, 2022 16:16:39 GMT -6
Nope I don't like Brad Knew-It, he's a master of the backhanded compliment. I don't mind if the broadcast crew is somewhat biased toward the team they regularly cover, most of the people watching are probably fans of that team. I disagree. I think Newitt does a good job of not only being objective but also providing quality color commentary. He knows what he is talking about with his coaching background, and also now covers a good deal of high school basketball in this state. I mean, the game is still available for replay on ESPN+. I'd love for Jacks fans to show us "where on the doll Brad hurt them". Give me some literal examples with timestamps of his bias and backhanded compliments or it didn't happen. If I find some time, I might go back through it myself. There are a few people on our board that all they do is complain about the announcing. It gets very old reading through a game thread and half of it is them complaining about Newitt. These same people have been complaining about him for years so you would think they would just give it up eventually cause he isn’t going anywhere. |
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 7, 2022 17:31:09 GMT -6
I disagree. I think Newitt does a good job of not only being objective but also providing quality color commentary. He knows what he is talking about with his coaching background, and also now covers a good deal of high school basketball in this state. I mean, the game is still available for replay on ESPN+. I'd love for Jacks fans to show us "where on the doll Brad hurt them". Give me some literal examples with timestamps of his bias and backhanded compliments or it didn't happen. If I find some time, I might go back through it myself. There are a few people on our board that all they do is complain about the announcing. It gets very old reading through a game thread and half of it is them complaining about Newitt. These same people have been complaining about him for years so you would think they would just give it up eventually cause he isn’t going anywhere. Fair enough. I suppose a message board isn't always a good representation of the entire fanbase as a whole, anyway. Thanks for the contrasting perspective. I may give the game another watch anyway, because I'm curious, although it will be painful... ... since I'm not likely to get a response from Jacks fans with evidence of Brad's anti-blue bias, maybe I'll check out your game thread for those examples.... or maybe not. |
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Post by fightsd on Feb 7, 2022 20:24:31 GMT -6
If you want an example of objective commentators, turn on the men's game. I hate the Bison but WDAY does a great job with broadcasts.
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Post by dave on Feb 7, 2022 23:00:12 GMT -6
If you want an example of objective commentators, turn on the men's game. I hate the Bison but WDAY does a great job with broadcasts. I agree with this post 100% the Bison crew do a good job, and for the record when my team plays on the road I don't expect the announcers to be unbiased. I expect and am OK with a certain amount of homerism. Since I'm the one who brought up Newitt let me clarify my position on him, first I agree he is very knowledgeable about the game and I like and respect that part of his broadcast. In my original post I said he was the master of the backhanded compliment, maybe that was a poor choice of words on my part. It's more like he can't pay the Jacks a compliment without a qualifier. As an example if the Jacks have a good play he will point it out and his remarks are complimentary, but immediately he has to go off on how the other team had a lapse in defense, implying IMO that the Jacks got lucky. I get tired of that, sometimes you just need to comment on the good play and leave it alone, don't over analyze. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 8, 2022 1:35:22 GMT -6
The Jacks fan base is the perfect example of not complimenting their opponents especially the Coyotes. The Coyotes only win because the other team was bad or played a bad game. Never because the Coyotes were impressive or played well. It is definitely never because the Coyotes are definitely a good team.
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Post by wrj on Feb 8, 2022 11:51:01 GMT -6
This is a tough question because there are so many different dynamics going on in a broadcast. The announcer should always speak to the audience he or she is selected to target. If announcing specifically for one team's fans, a little hometown preference is expected. If a national or regional audience is the target, objectivity is mandatory. Tone of voice is important, but cannot really be defined. The same is true for word and phrase choice. Two well known examples come to mind, Dicky V and Joe Buck. Different people love or hate one of both of their styles. It's a complicated question to answer because it is so difficult to define voice tone, word flow, phrase choice, etc unless you want to just describe the horrendously awful.
I tuned in to one MVC team's football broadcast last fall when I didn't have a dog in the fight. I literally felt pity for that team's fans for having to put up with that week after week.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 8, 2022 13:04:33 GMT -6
...If announcing specifically for one team's fans, a little hometown preference is expected. If a national or regional audience is the target, objectivity is mandatory... I mean, I get what you are saying, but I disagree that being a homer has to be an expected thing for a local announcer. I think we have grown used to that, but it shouldn't be an expectation, IMHO. Take the examples of two different guys that are currently hired by our own University to call games, Thayer and Woodiel. They are both really good at play-by-play with some thrown-in color commentary in multiple sports. I enjoy listening to both of them. IMHO, Thayer is a major Homer, and Woodiel is a lot more objective. Woodiel doesn't often inject his opinion of the officiating, for example, and Thayer does. That fact doesn't really make me dislike either one more or less. They are both good at what they do, and entertaining. If we are expecting the home announcer to be a homer, what does that say about us? That we can't handle objective opinions or criticism? That's kind of sad, if you ask me. Also, many people get angry if they have to listen to broadcasts that are homerish to another team. It doesn't bother me that much, I guess. For example, the Western Illinois football guys were so bad, it was humorous and entertaining to me. They were like characters in a mockumentary like Spinal Tap or Best In Show. I certainly wasn't offended, triggered or angry. Just my Opinion. |
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