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Post by yoteforever on Feb 24, 2013 7:50:14 GMT -6
R.J. is a very faithful Coyote, there is absolutely no doubt about that. But as a journalist, you are suppose to be unbiased. I have never heard a Division I basketball broadcast that is just absolutely so one-sided and makes the refs seem like the enemies every game. They are officiating a Division I ball game, so I don't think they are always wrong on their calls, which is what R.J. will want you to believe. I am able to listen to the UNI women's broadcasts here, and have really enjoyed the broadcasts. He is able to give an objective call and I rarely EVER hear any bashing of the officials whatsoever. Actually, I don't know if I ever have. He is able to be enthusiastic on the calls without having to shout Kaboom after every 3 just with the enthusiasm in his voice. As for the women's team. This has turned out to be a great year for the ladies with everything that went against them before the year started. There was no buzz with this team except for negative and coach Williams has found a way to make this such a positive season. Well done Lady Yotes and coach Williams. I understand the argument, trust me. Where I might differ is when you say as a journalist you are supposed to be unbiased. That's probably true, but is RJ considered a journalist? As I understand journalism ( not...lol) I would have to say that RJ is the VOICE of the lady Coyotes and therefore an employee/embassador of USD. Now in all fairness to all, as I stated earlier, I haven't listened to a broadcast, so I won't judge. But for my money, if the refs are sucking, I think that's fair game to say so. Can you do it to much? Sure. But that comes back to seeing if RJ is ever critiqued. If not, like I said, I think everyone has a right to improve their ways. In this case, I just happen to believe in the Golden Rule, merely out of respect. That's all. |
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Post by sdsportsfan2010 on Feb 24, 2013 7:50:25 GMT -6
RJ is pretty much doing USD games the same way he use to do DWU games. The "kaboom" and blaming the officials. DWU always seemed to get screwed by the refs, according to him. I think he can be good but he has to change. This is D1, not NAIA.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Feb 24, 2013 11:24:25 GMT -6
R.J. is a very faithful Coyote, there is absolutely no doubt about that. But as a journalist, you are suppose to be unbiased. I have never heard a Division I basketball broadcast that is just absolutely so one-sided and makes the refs seem like the enemies every game. They are officiating a Division I ball game, so I don't think they are always wrong on their calls, which is what R.J. will want you to believe. I am able to listen to the UNI women's broadcasts here, and have really enjoyed the broadcasts. He is able to give an objective call and I rarely EVER hear any bashing of the officials whatsoever. Actually, I don't know if I ever have. He is able to be enthusiastic on the calls without having to shout Kaboom after every 3 just with the enthusiasm in his voice. As for the women's team. This has turned out to be a great year for the ladies with everything that went against them before the year started. There was no buzz with this team except for negative and coach Williams has found a way to make this such a positive season. Well done Lady Yotes and coach Williams. I understand the argument, trust me. Where I might differ is when you say as a journalist you are supposed to be unbiased. That's probably true, but is RJ considered a journalist? As I understand journalism ( not...lol) I would have to say that RJ is the VOICE of the lady Coyotes and therefore an employee/embassador of USD. Now in all fairness to all, as I stated earlier, I haven't listened to a broadcast, so I won't judge. But for my money, if the refs are sucking, I think that's fair game to say so. Can you do it to much? Sure. But that comes back to seeing if RJ is ever critiqued. If not, like I said, I think everyone has a right to improve their ways. In this case, I just happen to believe in the Golden Rule, merely out of respect. That's all. I have also done radio, so yes, radio is journalism. If you look at the CMJ department at USD, it's newspaper, TV and RADIO. So yes, it is journalism. In terms of the refs, it seems like the refs are always against USD in EVERY game they play. The refs are always the enemy according to RJ and that has to stop. Most high school broadcasters I listen to blame the refs FAR less than R.J. does, and it is rare for high school refs to be as bad as R.J. describes them. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 24, 2013 21:36:20 GMT -6
Yoteforever and anyone else,
I should probably just focus on what USD should do to get the casual fan involved. I agree with the policy of points earned through donations, season tickets etc. I think just buying one ticket to one game should get you on the map somewhere when it concerns receiving these points. Obviously not as big as the bigger donors and season ticket holders but a simply single game ticket should count for something. I have bought a few season tickets over the years as well as several single game tickets as well.
When there is a game in Kansas City and a Coyote family traveled 5 hours to see the Yotes on the road believe it or not I think that should count for something as well. Not much but something. What that shows is investing time into Coyote athletics instead of just purely money. What if a group of 50 decided to go down to Omaha together to cheer on the Yotes. When if that 50 people decided they were gonna rock the house for the Coyotes. What if they made a commitment to cheer as loud as they could for the Yotes. I could gaurantee you those 50 fans would go along ways toward helping the Coyotes play better.
In the new arena maybe they could have one section devoted to the loudest Coyote fans. To sit there cheering would be considered a must. Have it be a fairly close to the court section and make fans earn their seats by cheering, instead of just being there because they decided to pay the most. I can gaurantee that I could help that section be loud. I couldn't necessarily gaurantee USD $200 a year in donations. At least not yet. What I will do is invest money at the turnsyles and invest my emotions in cheering for the team.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 24, 2013 21:37:39 GMT -6
I am a fan of the Stampede hockey club. They have an announcer that actually makes me tune into games just the way he calls them. He brings out the right emotion in a listener. yeah Jim something, I can't remember his name, or maybe it's changed, but he is a really good example. He is great. His name is Jim Olander. I would like nothing more than for him to be the voice of the Yotes. That would be awsome. I think he likes hockey too much to leave it though. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 24, 2013 21:49:34 GMT -6
I understand the argument, trust me. Where I might differ is when you say as a journalist you are supposed to be unbiased. That's probably true, but is RJ considered a journalist? As I understand journalism ( not...lol) I would have to say that RJ is the VOICE of the lady Coyotes and therefore an employee/embassador of USD. Now in all fairness to all, as I stated earlier, I haven't listened to a broadcast, so I won't judge. But for my money, if the refs are sucking, I think that's fair game to say so. Can you do it to much? Sure. But that comes back to seeing if RJ is ever critiqued. If not, like I said, I think everyone has a right to improve their ways. In this case, I just happen to believe in the Golden Rule, merely out of respect. That's all. I have also done radio, so yes, radio is journalism. If you look at the CMJ department at USD, it's newspaper, TV and RADIO. So yes, it is journalism. In terms of the refs, it seems like the refs are always against USD in EVERY game they play. The refs are always the enemy according to RJ and that has to stop. Most high school broadcasters I listen to blame the refs FAR less than R.J. does, and it is rare for high school refs to be as bad as R.J. describes them. What I like in a broadcaster is objectivity to the point where an accurate picture can be painted by discription. I want to know the simple truth. What I also like is a passion being showed for the team that is being represented and in this case it is obviously the Coyotes. Both of those things can be done at once and should be done as once. For making baskets simple things can be used such as "Got it, Count it, YYYYEEEESSS, swish, It's good" words like that generally always work and to put energy into those simple words makes it tollerable. I think going forward we need to have people working for the Coyote Athletic depart in any or every purpose that have the credentials and qualifications to be there. This goes from the 11th guy off the bench in basketball, to the line coach in football, to the person working the scoreboard clock on the scorers table all the way up to the AD desk and all the way down to the smaller levels. |
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Post by canislatrans on Feb 25, 2013 6:02:56 GMT -6
I was simply enjoying the Lady Yotes broadcast and thought it worthy of a post, didn't realize the sentiments towards Yotes announcing were so deep. That's good. I think that broadcasting, despite the tendency from the networks to make cookie-cutter announcers, ultimately comes down to personality and hard work. The hard work produces the ability to have knowledgeable statistics, follow the action and deliver it in the best detail to the listener.
RJ provides good detail in the flow of the game. I have rarely heard him miss the details of players touching the ball, from rebound, to outlet pass, to which side of the court, to who made the assist, the foul, or the basket (with emphasis sometimes, KABOOM). And his personality is full of passion and enthusiasm, which I would think for a developing D1 program, is just what the doctor ordered. I have yet to hear an announcer that covers a team, who is objective. And why would you want that? They are all homers, in my opinion, including all that have been mentioned previously.
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Post by azsod73 on Feb 25, 2013 10:29:41 GMT -6
I was simply enjoying the Lady Yotes broadcast and thought it worthy of a post, didn't realize the sentiments towards Yotes announcing were so deep. That's good. I think that broadcasting, despite the tendency from the networks to make cookie-cutter announcers, ultimately comes down to personality and hard work. The hard work produces the ability to have knowledgeable statistics, follow the action and deliver it in the best detail to the listener. RJ provides good detail in the flow of the game. I have rarely heard him miss the details of players touching the ball, from rebound, to outlet pass, to which side of the court, to who made the assist, the foul, or the basket (with emphasis sometimes, KABOOM). And his personality is full of passion and enthusiasm, which I would think for a developing D1 program, is just what the doctor ordered. I have yet to hear an announcer that covers a team, who is objective. And why would you want that? They are all homers, in my opinion, including all that have been mentioned previously. RJ is far more good than bad. He keeps you informed, and while his enthusiasm/love for USD ahtletics sometimes goes over the top, it sure beats the 'funeral procession' coverage of some broadcasters. He needs to cut the bad-call stuff out and clean up some other minor things but in the end he can be very good. |
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