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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 18, 2010 12:11:50 GMT -6
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 18, 2010 15:56:37 GMT -6
I agree that there are bright days ahead if USD as a whole including fans, alumni and administration come together and make a three pronged dedication to athletics, in this case football.
What I don't agree with is that is seems like this writer is rationalizing the season as somehow being good or acceptable, which it truley is not. The case that he makes is generally the case most make that believe the football program under it's current leadership is on the right track. There is no room for mediocracy if suceess in the MVFC is to follow. Close losses don't hold any water because it's the trend with this football program. USD almost exclusively loses those types of games and being in the MVFC is only going to stress that even further.
USD has one large step to make before the true building on the field is likely to take place and that step needs to happen NOW.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 18, 2010 16:01:46 GMT -6
It wouldn't bother me at all if USD welcomed the Yankton P&D and the Sioux City Journal and kicked the Argus right out of the dome. It's quite embarrassing the difference in coverage that SDSU gets over USD. I believe the P&D does live chats at some of the events. Maybe the Sioux City Journal can work out some kind of a deal where the beat righter can get some free travel or something. |
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 18, 2010 16:11:42 GMT -6
Why just the Journal and not the P&D? The P&D has been more dedicated to USD than the Journal and the Argus combined with a lot less resources.
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Post by GoYotes on Nov 18, 2010 16:22:40 GMT -6
Reach out your right hand, reach over your shoulder and pat yourself on the back. Just kidding - I do appreciate the coverage the Yotes receive from the P&D. Nothing to do with the Yotes, but I also appreciate the P&D coverage of area high school sports. The AL pretty much only covers the AA Sioux Falls schools, whereas the P&D does a good job of getting people to all area games within about a 90 mile radius, including into Nebraska.
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Post by pierreyote on Nov 18, 2010 16:29:49 GMT -6
I also want to say thanks to the P&D. They, and others, do a great job covering the Yotes on a much smaller, I presume, budget than the Argus Leader. I like Mick and he does an OK job but the Univeristy has now stepped up. It is time that he do the same. Chris Solari and Terry V., sdsu beat writers, really changed the coverage landscape a beat writer must have at the Argus Leader, even though I sometimes view Terry V. more of a PR/cheerleader of sdsu. Don't get me wrong he does a fantastic job. I assume it is a business decision so we, as fans, must be loud and proud. The AL might take notice and step up our coverage as well.
Again, I appreciate the P&D coverage and read their material daily.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 18, 2010 16:39:23 GMT -6
I think Chris Solari is up in Michigan now covering some Michigan State stuff with one of the papers there. Just shows where you can from covering South Dakota teams.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 18, 2010 17:06:23 GMT -6
I don't know if it's just Mick's personal lack of committment or if it's the Argus not allowing him to cover the Yotes as much. The blogging is almost non existant compared to what Vandrovec does. I do like Mick's live chats and like his sense of humor. It seems like Mick kind of has a slightly negative slant on USD but Terry is ridiculously biased toward SDSU.
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Post by Iceman on Nov 18, 2010 23:19:14 GMT -6
I really doubt that it is Mick's lack of committment. I would guess that the AL won't let him go to all the games because he has to cover high school sports too. I agree that it is a joke that he is not full time covering USD, but I highly doubt it is his fault.
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Post by drake on Dec 25, 2010 19:27:58 GMT -6
Mick has many more duties at the Argus than Terry V. Ex.: Mick spends one night each week helping to put the paper together. TV has nothing else to do but be a cheerleader for SDSU. You would think he is on their payroll sometimes.
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Post by sdsportsfan2010 on Dec 26, 2010 8:35:04 GMT -6
Mick has many more duties at the Argus than Terry V. Ex.: Mick spends one night each week helping to put the paper together. TV has nothing else to do but be a cheerleader for SDSU. You would think he is on their payroll sometimes. TV does a good job of covering SDSU sports. Thats his job, dont blame him for doing his job. If there is lack of coverage for USD, blame the Argus, not TV or Mick. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2010 14:26:51 GMT -6
Mick has many more duties at the Argus than Terry V. Ex.: Mick spends one night each week helping to put the paper together. TV has nothing else to do but be a cheerleader for SDSU. You would think he is on their payroll sometimes. When TV tore Fred Oien a new one, with that article of half truths, I called him out in private messages on a few comments. One of his return comments to me off the board, was that he was not an employee of SDSU and his job was to report. He works for the Argus Leader he reminded me. If you are concerned about the Argus coverage, complain to the sports editor Stu Whitney. Stu is no fan of SDSU so you got something going in that direction. Note his video conferences which have included Ed Mierkort more than once have never included John Stiglemeire. So tell me why the imbalance in that department. I think Mick does a great job. He has written many great articles about athletics at USD. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 27, 2010 8:40:00 GMT -6
Ed is on the video conferences because he is willing to go on those interviews. The USD athletic dept practically begs the Argus for coverage while it is just given to SDSU. It's not just the AL but all of the Sioux Falls media. The USD men beat Loyola Marymount, which is historically a pretty well known mid-major school, and the lead story on the nightly news is SDSU getting ready for an upcoming game with Minnesota. The game was still a day away...and meanwhile USD beat LMU blah, blah, blah.
It gets old and they have lost viewers and readers. I don't even bother with the AL anymore and watch Sioux City stations instead.
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Post by usdlaw on Dec 27, 2010 9:26:07 GMT -6
The Argus cares about one thing: the Argus. They measure stories based upon how many people click the "recommend" button. I usually read the print version - old school, but unfortunately they measure by on-line "recommending". So now and then I go to the Argus.com and click recommend on all the USD stories. Either SDSU is better at clicking recommend, or they hire some intern in the athletic department to sit there all day and click recommend over and over. Just kidding.
From my perspective, Mick does a good job with what he is allowed to do. Terry V does an excellent job and is aggressive, hungry and motivated. SDSU is lucky to have him covering them. I wish he covered USD. I'm guessing at his age the Argus is not his dream job, so he's trying to move up the ladder. I don't see Mick going anywhere.
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Post by yotemeal on Dec 27, 2010 9:32:18 GMT -6
Ed is on the video conferences because he is willing to go on those interviews. The USD athletic dept practically begs the Argus for coverage while it is just given to SDSU. It's not just the AL but all of the Sioux Falls media. The USD men beat Loyola Marymount, which is historically a pretty well known mid-major school, and the lead story on the nightly news is SDSU getting ready for an upcoming game with Minnesota. The game was still a day away...and meanwhile USD beat LMU blah, blah, blah. It gets old and they have lost viewers and readers. I don't even bother with the AL anymore and watch Sioux City stations instead. To be fair, I was at the LMU game, and we need to start putting more butts in the seats if we are to expect media outlets to notice a demand for USD sports info. That goes for all sports. If 5,500 people show up to a USD football game, and 13,000 show up for an SDSU game, which event deserves bigger media play? If you're looking to sell newspapers, how do you incorporate these figures into your strategy? I know what I'd do. I don't think any of us can seriously argue that the media are turning their heads from the #1 show in town in favor of a lesser act. SDSU is ahead of us. Did the Argus Leader make it that way, or did SDSU make that happen? We need to give the media something they can't ignore (and I really don't think they've been neglecting us), and that begins with fan support. |
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