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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 9, 2015 22:34:21 GMT -6
Here are the current Summit League Mens RPI's
Oral Roberts 42
SDSU 76
USD 83 and moving up big time
IPFW 90
Western Illinois 94
NDSU 155
Omaha 231
IUPUI 246
Denver 288
Minnesota is 122
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Post by jackl on Dec 14, 2015 16:16:44 GMT -6
Here are the current Summit League Mens RPI's Oral Roberts 42 SDSU 76 USD 83 and moving up big time IPFW 90 Western Illinois 94 NDSU 155 Omaha 231 IUPUI 246 Denver 288 Minnesota is 122 Updated: ORU 16 IPFW 81 SDSU 83 WIU 114 NDSU 132 USD 159 UNO 161 Denver 239 IUPUI 273 Jacks get vote in coaches poll:http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/ |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 16, 2015 22:54:36 GMT -6
I wonder if jackl will update the new RPI ratings after the results from tonights Summit League Men's action.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 1:01:01 GMT -6
I wonder if jackl will update the new RPI ratings after the results from tonights Summit League Men's action. Why? Because SDSU lost to Texas Tech (7-1, 21 RPI) on the road without George Marshall? SDSU RPI will probably go up even though they lost. |
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Post by jackl on Dec 17, 2015 7:42:46 GMT -6
I wonder if jackl will update the new RPI ratings after the results from tonights Summit League Men's action. I sure will: ORU 32 SDSU 55 IPFW 94 WIU 109 NDSU 135 UNO 167 USD 168 Denver 230 IUPUI 266 |
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Post by golfingyote on Dec 17, 2015 8:06:51 GMT -6
Watching you 3 have your slap fights is painful. Also, careful putting too much/any stock in a metric that has ORU at 32. Almost every other widely used analysis or rankings have them outside the top 100. the RPI is too easily manipulated and becoming more and more obsolete.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Dec 17, 2015 8:18:01 GMT -6
ORU just lost to Missouri State who is 4-6, but looks like MSU losses are all to some tough teams.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 17, 2015 11:45:13 GMT -6
Watching you 3 have your slap fights is painful. Also, careful putting too much/any stock in a metric that has ORU at 32. Almost every other widely used analysis or rankings have them outside the top 100. the RPI is too easily manipulated and becoming more and more obsolete. This captures my thoughts on the entire matter. RPI pissing matches at any point, let alone mid-December, are painful to watch. Maybe talk about it in February. |
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Post by GoYotes on Dec 18, 2015 10:14:49 GMT -6
I am not sure how statistically accurate RPI by conference rankings are, but FWIW the Summit League is now up to #9 of 32 conferences.
Some other conferences are Mountain West #10, Missouri Valley #13, MAC #14, Horison #15 & Conference USA #19
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Post by GoYotes on Dec 19, 2015 11:05:42 GMT -6
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 29, 2015 1:47:25 GMT -6
Updated RPI with Strength of Schedule included this time
RPI Team SOS
44 SDSU 135
65 Oral Roberts 64
82 IPFW 223
108 USD 114
153 NDSU 321
178 Omaha 247
216 Western Illinois 328
240 IUPUI 156
242 Denver 333
Interesting how SOS factors in. IPFW may be high in RPI but their SOS is very mediocre. Look at ORU's SOS, they have been playing stiff competition. NDSU has really taken a nose dive. Their RPI isn't bad but there is no comparison between their SOS and USD's. Western Illinois is still receiving votes in the mid major poll because of a win over Wisconsin. They have basically done nothing else in the non conference with a very weak SOS. They are a joke to have in those rankings/poll ahead of other more deserving Summit teams. One thing I love about the Yotes is that they are very battle tested with their schedule and know how to win close games against good teams. The Coyotes have gone out on the road and on neutral courts and picked up alot of meaningful W's so far this year. Other than at Frost which the Yotes will be a certain underdog I don't see any other road games that the Yotes don't have a very good chance in. I think the goal should be to get into that 2 or 3 slot which would give the Yotes a good chance to play for the Summit Tourney Championship game. The Coyotes are probably right up there with Oral Roberts for the 2nd most impressive Summit team after the first two games of the year.
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Post by golfingyote on Dec 29, 2015 13:18:14 GMT -6
Updated RPI with Strength of Schedule included this time RPI Team SOS 44 SDSU 135 65 Oral Roberts 64 82 IPFW 223 108 USD 114 153 NDSU 321 178 Omaha 247 216 Western Illinois 328 240 IUPUI 156 242 Denver 333 Interesting how SOS factors in. IPFW may be high in RPI but their SOS is very mediocre. Look at ORU's SOS, they have been playing stiff competition. NDSU has really taken a nose dive. Their RPI isn't bad but there is no comparison between their SOS and USD's. Western Illinois is still receiving votes in the mid major poll because of a win over Wisconsin. They have basically done nothing else in the non conference with a very weak SOS. They are a joke to have in those rankings/poll ahead of other more deserving Summit teams. One thing I love about the Yotes is that they are very battle tested with their schedule and know how to win close games against good teams. The Coyotes have gone out on the road and on neutral courts and picked up alot of meaningful W's so far this year. Other than at Frost which the Yotes will be a certain underdog I don't see any other road games that the Yotes don't have a very good chance in. I think the goal should be to get into that 2 or 3 slot which would give the Yotes a good chance to play for the Summit Tourney Championship game. The Coyotes are probably right up there with Oral Roberts for the 2nd most impressive Summit team after the first two games of the year. I guess I am confused on what Oral has done that is all that impressive. Nice win over Tulsa, about it. I would assume on the mens side it will be SDSU 1.. and then could 2-8 is going to be wild this year I think. At this point, its really hard to distinguish any one team that sticks out for 2 or for 8-9 for that matter. You could say IUPUI hasnt looked great, but they have played a tough schedule as well. Road wins are tough to come by in this conference. You could easily see 10 wins get 2nd this year. |
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Post by 91jack on Dec 29, 2015 16:20:39 GMT -6
SDSU might be the favorite but they will need to get healthy before the conference tournament or I don't see them winning it. I think that Marshall is supposed to come back this weekend and Bittle is supposed to come back around January 18th but we will see. If those two are out, you are missing two (preseason) 1st team all conference players. I don't know if they will be all conference at the end of the season but they might be. You are missing your starting PG and SF who are both seniors. SDSU only has 10 players playing right now and only 4 of them are guards. One of the four is a walk-on. They only play about 8 of those 10. I don't think that SDSU will be able to play three games in four days with that short of a bench.
I hope that I am wrong and they both should be back by then but we will see.
The rest of the conference has some good teams. The RPI wouldn't be as high as it is without good teams. You would think that the #1 seed would beat the #8 seed but there should be good games throughout the tournament.
In the women's, it's a different story #1 and #2 are the best and #3 is a threat but after that, it's a mess.
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