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Post by yoteforever on Jan 30, 2017 12:44:48 GMT -6
I'm of the mindset that the threat of two teams missing the SLT every year should provide ample incentive to improve or get left at home and will likely help elevate overall RPI and quality of play across the League. I agree. The flip side is if USD or SDSU is left out, ticket sales will more than likely tank. More so SDSU right now, but that's all changing fast as well. Just playing devils advocate.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 30, 2017 14:07:44 GMT -6
So if SDSU is left out of this year's tournament we can count on an expansion in the future?
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Post by yoteforever on Jan 30, 2017 16:16:58 GMT -6
I'm not sure if you're directing the question to me or not. All I was saying is if either South Dakota school is out it would harm ticket sales, so to ensure that both teams play, there would be expansion where everyone plays. I'm not advocating that, I merely raised the issue. I doubt if they will expand, and that's ok with me.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 30, 2017 18:09:51 GMT -6
I'm not sure if you're directing the question to me or not. All I was saying is if either South Dakota school is out it would harm ticket sales, so to ensure that both teams play, there would be expansion where everyone plays. I'm not advocating that, I merely raised the issue. I doubt if they will expand, and that's ok with me. It wasn't a serious question, rather a jab at SDSU's record this year. Agree that leaving a Dakota school out would hurt attendance. I'm still for all 10 teams making it but not if it's in the name of including a struggling local team.
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Post by yoteforever on Jan 30, 2017 20:09:28 GMT -6
I'm not sure if you're directing the question to me or not. All I was saying is if either South Dakota school is out it would harm ticket sales, so to ensure that both teams play, there would be expansion where everyone plays. I'm not advocating that, I merely raised the issue. I doubt if they will expand, and that's ok with me. It wasn't a serious question, rather a jab at SDSU's record this year. Agree that leaving a Dakota school out would hurt attendance. I'm still for all 10 teams making it but not if it's in the name of including a struggling local team. We are on the same team. Always have been and always will be. Go Yotes
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Post by wrj on Jan 30, 2017 21:24:49 GMT -6
Most of the tickets are sold well in advance of the tournament. Unless one of the Dakota schools fails to make the tournament on a regular basis I doubt that ticket sales will suffer.
I would argue that the intent of the tournament is to crown the team that is the best at the end of the season as the conference tournament champion and award the NCAA automatic bid to that team. It is highly doubtful that the 9th or 10th place team will ever be deserving of that championship and that automatic bid. Leaving them out will not hurt the integrity of the tournament and is probably the most merciful way to bring an end to a dismal season.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 10, 2017 9:26:41 GMT -6
Just an update on UND Basketball....
Their Women's team is #1 in the Big Sky standings with an RPI of 123 (would be #5 of 10 in Summit)
Their Men's team is #2 in the Big Sky standings with an RPI of 223 (would be #6 of 10 in Summit)
I think they will be a good fit competitively. Right at the average, and could get better with better competition.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 27, 2017 8:24:36 GMT -6
Not to beat a dead horse, but looking at other 10-team basketball leagues, two of the two I looked at included all 10 in the tournament. basically the bottom 4 would have an extra play-in game. Both the Horizon and MVC do this.
I agree that an 8-team tournament makes more sense from a competitive standpoint, but excluding two teams leaves money on the table from a financial standpoint. (and money is what drives the bus) I think the SLT will be a 10-team in the future, like it or not. This will further minimize the regular season.
On the bright side, UND fans actually support their team, and will show up at the tournament. This further legitimizes the Sioux Falls location.
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Post by Yote 53 on Feb 27, 2017 8:58:12 GMT -6
A 10 team tournament would be fine but the stipulation should be that seeds 7-8-9-10 have a first round play-in for the 7-8 seeds. After that the normal tournament can take place. No way should a 9 or 10 team get the opportunity for even a fluke win against atop 2 seed without earning I even a little bit.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 27, 2017 17:07:36 GMT -6
Very few conferences don't let all their teams participate. If the Summit had all 10 involved I agree that it would be better to have 7-10 do a play-in round, rather than giving byes to top seeds. Interest for these games would be lower, so they could have the games at the Arena on Friday night or campus sites in the middle of the week.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 27, 2017 17:11:46 GMT -6
UND is leading the Big Sky and only needs to win one out of their last two games to take the 1 seed into the conference tournament (in Reno, Nevada haha). ESPN Bracketology has them as a 16 seed. The Big Sky is not a strong basketball conference, currently 29 out of 32 (Summit is 17), and has 5 teams with sub-300 RPIs.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Feb 27, 2017 17:17:10 GMT -6
Let all 10 make the tourney with the bottom 4 teams playing in.
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Post by yote14 on Mar 1, 2017 13:41:24 GMT -6
Agreed. Part of march madness is that everyone has a shot.
The regular season still means something with seeding and achieving that dream easier.
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Post by lakesbison on Mar 4, 2017 14:27:43 GMT -6
dumbest thing tom douple has ever done, horrible school, horrible fans, horrible finances. just embarassing for the league
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Post by Yote 53 on Mar 4, 2017 20:18:28 GMT -6
C'mon Lakes. The sun will come up tomorrow, everything will be alright tomorrow.
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