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Post by kiyoat on Jan 24, 2024 10:11:34 GMT -6
Well, let's hope that this is a get-right week where we start to look like we belong in the upper-half of the conference. Arguably we DID get a lot of things right in our 18-point loss to State. It was just hard to see that amid a convincing loss. If we play with that tenacity on the boards and the better ball-control that we saw in that game, we should be good in these two games this week. Now, if we get fundamentally better in our defense, THEN we can start a conversation about the SLT finals. But until that happens, it would be nice to just stay in the conversation for a 2 or 3-seed, and not turn the ball over 20 times a game. I think that's where we are right now.
Predictions:
Yotes beat Pios 72-59 (-13) Massey
Yotes beat Pios 74-56 (-18) Warren Nolan
Yotes beat Roos 72-60 (-12) Massey
Yotes beat Roos 72-60 (-12) Warren Nolan
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Post by kiyoat on Jan 24, 2024 12:10:17 GMT -6
There has been a bit of discussion about Duffney, and her minutes and confidence shooting. I decided to take a closer look. The last three games have seen Duffney playing an average of 23.3 minutes, as opposed to the 17 minutes she is averaging on the season. So I'll compare last year to this year, and then look at the last 3 games..... | stat | 2023 | 2024 | vs ORU | @ UST | vs SDSU | | minutes played | 22.6 | 17.0 | 19 | 22 | 29 | | points/20 min | 9.2 | 5.6 | 2.1 | 6.4 | 5.5 | | 2-Pt FG% | 50.6% | 50.0% | 25.0% | 66.7% | 50.0% | | 3-Pt FG% | 23.8% | 29.2% | 0.0% | 33.3% | 0.0% | | 3-PT Attempt Rate | 19.8% | 30.0% | 20.0% | 50.0% | 20.0% | | FT Attempt Rate | 54.2% | 31.3% | 0.0% | 0.0% | 100.0% | | FT % | 87.0% | 76.0% | 0.0% | 0.0% | 80.0% | | --- |
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| | | Assists/ 20 min | 1.25 | 2.9 | 2.1 | 4.5 | 2.8 | | TO/ 20 min | 1.5 | 2.3 | 3.2 | 1.8 | 2.8 | | A/TO Ratio | 0.82 | 1.26 | 0.67 | 2.50 | 1.00 | | Rebounds/ 20 min | 3.1 | 2.8 | 1.1 | 0.9 | 4.1 | | Steals/ 20 min | 0.6 | 0.4 | 0.0 | 0.9 | 0.0 |
So my take is that she needs to be more of a cutter than an arc-shooter. She never was a 60% or 70% 2-point shooter on-average. she's more 50%. But she IS really good at drawing contact, and she is an excellent FT shooter. Another thing is that her assist efficiency has really gone up. She's decent at ball-control and seeing the open shooter. Not PG-level, but pretty good. And better than last year. In the SDSU game she had 5 FT attempts on just 5 field-goal attempts! That's really good. And she hit 4 of them, which is right at her average. Attack the basket even more with her and you are putting opposing post players on the bench. JMO |
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Post by jorjo on Jan 24, 2024 16:15:15 GMT -6
I couldn’t find this anywhere on the usd site so I did some calculations. Season true shooting percentages. Good way to judge scoring efficiency.
Grace 62%
Holmes 55%
Deperry 58%
Nat 56%
Hempe 47%
Walker 55%
Ambrosi 50%
Duffney 53%
Kieffer 52%
Hansen 62%
Broughton 93%
Haydon 43%
Grange 40%
Mason 33%
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Post by jorjo on Jan 24, 2024 16:39:11 GMT -6
SDSU top 5 scorers for comparison
B Meyer 55%
P Meyer 61%
Mathiowetz 56%
Nelson 47%
Vlastuin 58%
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Post by kiyoat on Jan 24, 2024 17:41:20 GMT -6
Wow, great stats! True Shooting% is something I've heard about but haven't really looked at much. Looks like having a % over 60 is pretty elite? So Grace, Hansen and Broughton fall into that category (small sample size for the kids at the bottom of your list, and sometimes those kids go in in garbage time, so I won't make to many judgements. But Broughton's number...... wow. that girl doesn't miss much! I'm seeing different ways to calculate it, though.... POINTS / 2*(FGA + (0.44 * FTA) looks like the correct calculation. Warren Nolan uses something else, unless it is a typo: POINTS / 2 * (FGA + (0.475 * 3PA) this would give a very different outcome, I think. link: www.warrennolan.com/basketballw/2024/stats-adv-true-shooting-percent |
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Post by jorjo on Jan 24, 2024 18:55:05 GMT -6
Using warrens formulas
Grace efg 56% ts 62%
Holmes efg 51% ts 47%
Deperry efg 55% ts 71%
Nat Efg 56% ts 51%
Hempe Efg 44% ts 39%
Demers Efg 51% ts 58%
Ambrosi efg 48% ts 42%
Duffney Efg 48% ts 53%
Kieffer Efg 50% ts 47%
Hansen Efg 63% ts 48%
Broughton efg 92% ts 101%
Haydon Efg 44% ts 47%
Grange Efg 40% ts 47%
Mason Efg 33% ts 28%
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Post by soofooyote on Jan 25, 2024 19:44:19 GMT -6
This team is capable of blowing any lead, losing any game, and looking like an absolute train wreck at any time. Then they will look like a top tier team in the Summit the next quarter. Where does consistency come from? Where do they find it?
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Post by sdyotefan on Jan 26, 2024 6:58:45 GMT -6
Kudos to the Lady Yotes on several points. First after 9 TOs the 1st half they had ONE the 2nd half which is great! The Coyotes made 12 of 14 FTs and their bench had 35 points to Denver's 12! Depth was important too since Grace missed at least a quarter of total time due to foul trouble.
The good news is too that even though Grange didn't play due to a recent concussion, she is cleared to play which will be a great help!
So they just need to continue to strive for consistency on D and TOs and they can beat any Summit team in a given game!
Go Yotes!!
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Post by 90yote on Jan 26, 2024 10:25:21 GMT -6
There were definitely some positive aspects to the game...when Minnett was out of the game for Denver, the staff and players did a good job of taking advantage of mismatches in the post with Mazurek and Duffney. The lack of turnovers on all these post-entry passes was notable.
But when you lead a bad team 26-8 at HOME, you can't allow a 31-11 run to put them right back into the game. Denver has a couple very strong players, but their record is what it is. They are not a good team. I know this is hyperbole and prisoner-of-the-moment stuff, but I think that second quarter was one of the worst quarters in the D-1 era. I just don't know what else to say. I think this team is headed to 8-8 in the conference and at best one win in the tourney. Hope they prove me wrong.
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Post by 90yote on Jan 26, 2024 10:34:04 GMT -6
I feel really bad for Grange. It's going to be really tough for her to come in now and establish a role. I hope Kayla carves out enough time for her to so that she has a chance to make a difference in some of these games.
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Post by kiyoat on Jan 26, 2024 11:28:57 GMT -6
I think this team is headed to 8-8 in the conference and at best one win in the tourney. Hope they prove me wrong. Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure we beat any of SDSU, ORU, or NDSU the second time around. That's 6 losses to start off with. The way we are playing very very close games with the rest of the teams, two losses to that group would not surprise me either. 8-8 and a 4-seed or 5-seed. Destroyed by State in the Semifinals. If we made the postseason, we would be backing in/ limping in with a 20-13 record. Best case scenario is we start being consistent, playing to our potential and sweep the bottom half of the conference and pull off a win against either ORU or NDSU. That would be an 11-5 conference record and likely a 3-seed. Then we have a slightly better chance of making it to the finals, but still no guarantee. At least in that scenario, we would feel better about postseason opportunities at 23-10 or 24-10. |
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Post by marco on Jan 26, 2024 11:29:43 GMT -6
Bad 2nd quarter. Hurt Grace was in foul trouble. I do not like when we run a zone defense its not very good. Passing in the paint was the best I seen this year so that was good that's been a real week point
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Post by yotewannabe on Jan 26, 2024 11:50:09 GMT -6
Turnovers were better. Not sure if that tells us much because of who we were playing. Offense looked disorganized yet at times, but offense seems to be our strength. We are just not very good defensively many have trouble keeping their girl out of the paint and our zone rotations are bad. All things we can work on and I am sure we are. Speaking on Grange , I am not sure where her minutes will come from as we look set on going with what we are going with. My biggest concern is next year. We have three that will be done, one of those with significant minutes. That will leave us with once again a pretty deep bench and a very similar look. Is their growth there? We didn’t red shirt anyone this year which surprised me.
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Post by 90yote on Jan 26, 2024 12:14:08 GMT -6
I think this team is headed to 8-8 in the conference and at best one win in the tourney. Hope they prove me wrong. Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure we beat any of SDSU, ORU, or NDSU the second time around. That's 6 losses to start off with. The way we are playing very very close games with the rest of the teams, two losses to that group would not surprise me either. 8-8 and a 4-seed or 5-seed. Destroyed by State in the Semifinals. If we made the postseason, we would be backing in/ limping in with a 20-13 record. Best case scenario is we start being consistent, playing to our potential and sweep the bottom half of the conference and pull off a win against either ORU or NDSU. That would be an 11-5 conference record and likely a 3-seed. Then we have a slightly better chance of making it to the finals, but still no guarantee. At least in that scenario, we would feel better about postseason opportunities at 23-10 or 24-10. Losing to both NDSU and ORU at home really put them behind the 8-ball. Makes it almost impossible to get into the top-3. |
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Post by olifer on Jan 26, 2024 12:17:59 GMT -6
Three of our starters played less than half the game, and our starting five scored 55% of our total points, with the remainder coming from the bench. Our first substitutions were coming in before many of the fans had taken the first sips of their sodas. The makeup of this team has changed and I'm wondering if we have the right personnel setting the pace on the opening tip.
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