Rowing/Crew?

[zooropa]

Has the administration looked at this?

Once USD's finances are in order, they *need* to add a women's sport. Why not this one? An opportunity to square off against Big Ten and Ivy League schools? Hosting meets on the big muddy?

(NB: Yes, I'm a Jacks fan, but I think this would be cool. USD should have a sport that can represent the whole state)

[Coyote Fan]

I am assuming the Big Muddy means the Missouri River. I have never heard of that term or at least not enough to have it be retained. I would probably be more willing to watch that than some other sports just because it is different. Bring it on.

[jackjd]

USD formed a crew club in the Fall of 1999. It purchased a used shell from Creighton and practiced on McCook Lake. I contributed a modest amount of money to the startup and my wife and I each have a long-sleeve USD Crew T-shirt to prove it.

[#1CoyoteFan (Admin)]

Is it still going? Did it work out? Any possibility it could actually be a sport at USD? I have my doubts.

[jackjd]

I do not know if it is still going. If I had to guess, I'd say no. There was a USD student who had somehow had a little experience with Crew -- she may have spent a little time at a school which had that sport -- and she took it on herself to organize a club, locate a servicable racing shell and other equipment, and round up some people to give it a try. I think they had some fun and it probably lasted a couple years. I suspect that once the driving force behind it was graduated, it may have slipped away.

Does the Coyote Student Center have a place to rent canoes, kayaks etc.? I think it does (at least it did in the past). Those folks may know what happened to the racing shell.

Yotemeal, your buddy Jeff joined the crew club ... did you ever hear about the crew club?

(side note: if a crew team's roster was trimmed, would you say someone got a crew cut? )

[zooropa]

Nov 7, 2010 23:02:43 GMT -6 #1CoyoteFan (Admin) said:

Is it still going? Did it work out? Any possibility it could actually be a sport at USD? I have my doubts.

The cheap alternative would be women's gymnastics, I suppose. USD needs to add 40 or so athletes (not necessarily scholarships) on the women's side to balance the Title IX books.

Murray State had a rowing team and in '07/'08 the budget was $164k for 20 students. If that gives you some idea of costs.

"Big Muddy":
www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=33590

[#1CoyoteFan (Admin)]

I hate to say this, but would it be a possibility to cut men's swimming and diving to help make it work? Trust me, it PAINS me to say that big time. Men's golf could also be a possibility as well. Ugh, I hate cutting sports.

Would adding women's bowling help at all? Also, not the greatest idea at all.

[jackjd]

Front side of USD Crew Shirt



Reverse side of the same shirt.

[jackjd]

Nov 7, 2010 23:35:19 GMT -6 #1CoyoteFan (Admin) said:

I hate to say this, but would it be a possibility to cut men's swimming and diving to help make it work? Trust me, it PAINS me to say that big time. Men's golf could also be a possibility as well. Ugh, I hate cutting sports.

Would adding women's bowling help at all? Also, not the greatest idea at all.

It isn't just a matter of adding a "team"...you also have to have some meaningful competition nearby. Are there any D1 bowling teams? Gymnastics, suggested earlier, is a fading sport on the collegiate level due to equipment costs and liability issues, high insurance costs, trained coaches etc. In the 1970s, the NCC sponsored a gymnastics championship but I think that ended by the end of that decade. Not sure if USD had gymnastics but I think it did in the early 70s,. SDSU's gymnastics team lasted until somewhere around 1978-1980.

[#1CoyoteFan (Admin)]

Here are some schools that have bowling in the midwest. Nebraska traditionally has one of the best programs year in, year out.

Nebraska, Minnesota State Mankato (ranked), Illinois State, Wichita State, Winona State, and Wisconsin-Green Bay. That should round out a good amount of teams right there.

[yotemeal]

Nov 7, 2010 23:12:01 GMT -6 jackjd said:

I do not know if it is still going. If I had to guess, I'd say no. There was a USD student who had somehow had a little experience with Crew -- she may have spent a little time at a school which had that sport -- and she took it on herself to organize a club, locate a servicable racing shell and other equipment, and round up some people to give it a try. I think they had some fun and it probably lasted a couple years. I suspect that once the driving force behind it was graduated, it may have slipped away.

Does the Coyote Student Center have a place to rent canoes, kayaks etc.? I think it does (at least it did in the past). Those folks may know what happened to the racing shell.

Yotemeal, your buddy Jeff joined the crew club ... did you ever hear about the crew club?

(side note: if a crew team's roster was trimmed, would you say someone got a crew cut? )

I'll have to ask Jeff about that. I do like the idea of a women's crew team. I know very little about crew. I assume you'd do that up on L&C Lake? Growing up in nesodak, I swear I remember hearing or reading about some college crew teams practicing or competing on Big Stone Lake. Anyway, women's bowling also intrigues me. A couple of years ago when I went down to Lincoln for my first Huskers game, I stopped in the UNL bookstore to grab a Huskers shirt (you know, to fit in). I ended up buying a Nebraska Bowling shirt. I later found out Nebraska is a women's bowling powerhouse. www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=155&SPID=39&ATCLID=204926541&DB_OEM_ID=100

[zooropa]

Nov 7, 2010 23:35:19 GMT -6 #1CoyoteFan (Admin) said:

I hate to say this, but would it be a possibility to cut men's swimming and diving to help make it work? Trust me, it PAINS me to say that big time. Men's golf could also be a possibility as well. Ugh, I hate cutting sports.

Would adding women's bowling help at all? Also, not the greatest idea at all.

As much as I dislike that Title IX waiver, I think it's better to keep it in place until USD can add a sport than to end it prematurely and drop a men's sport to meet target numbers.

Nebraska, BTW, only has 11 members on its bowling team. And they're not exactly in compliance with Title IX (54% M enrollment, 63% M participation). USD is closer than that *with* the waiver.