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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 18, 2010 22:42:16 GMT -6
So the football season has been over for almost a week. Has anyone heard anything from Sayler or the Athletic Department on the status of Meierkort and whether he is going to be renewed and when the decision is going to be made on that.
I am assuming that decision has either been made already or will be very soon. Is Sayler in the evaluation stage if there is even going to be one.
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Post by Iceman on Nov 18, 2010 23:16:58 GMT -6
Wow coyote fan. Get off it. If you would have been at the basketball games last night, you would have seen Meierkort there. Everyone around there looked happy to see him.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 19, 2010 2:11:32 GMT -6
Even though you are dead set on it Coyote Fan, this process actually takes an evaluation time for Sayler that is longer than four days. This isn't Northern Colorado in which the program hasn't been .500 in a while.
So, I think this is a process for Sayler if he is even considering. I am not a fan of Ed right now, but I am also not in charge.
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Post by Yote Fan on Nov 19, 2010 9:26:57 GMT -6
He will be back...he has had one bad year....with 5 seniors....it's a transition...anybody who thinks he will be fired is delusional
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 19, 2010 10:34:22 GMT -6
I agree, he'll be back. No question about it. Heck, this year might be just what the program needed. No complacency. Transition is also a learning process. Have to take some knocks and learn what it takes to win. NDSU came out like gangbusters in the first years of their transition, but when it came down to the years that counted, those first playoff eligible years, they tanked. SDSU had its share of ups and downs during transition and peaked at just the right time to make the playoffs.
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Post by Iceman on Nov 19, 2010 11:52:13 GMT -6
Yeah I think he will be back coyote fan. At the games Wednesday, many of the people in the courtside seats talked to him. When he was walking by the chairback seats, he waved to someone and 50 people waved back to him. He looked like he was in a parade he got so many waves back. I agree with Yote 53 on his comments as well. They all are very true.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 19, 2010 12:19:36 GMT -6
Honestly, that shows me how small Vermillion is honestly. He is the grand master of the parade...and that isn't a good thing. Vermillion needs to watch out how close they are to Meierkort, because he can honestly pull anything he wants at this point of time. Not saying he is, but never get too attached to a head coach of any sport until he is here for about 15 to 20 years. It's just the history of college football. It's a program that coaches have no loyalty to the school after a bit. Don't believe me? People like Gary Patterson and Chris Peterson are an oddity....
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 19, 2010 12:27:02 GMT -6
BTW, I do want to point out that I heard Ed was hosting, as usual, student athletes over at his house for Thanksgiving. I think that is admiral for the student athletes that can't go home for Thanksgiving because of the short break. I know USD gave the students an extra day this year, but still. Thanks Ed for doing that.
The only sad note is who can see the NCAA catching wind of this and going after Meierkort for it. Stupid NCAA sometimes....
Thanks Ed, this is definitely an admiral thing to do.
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Post by Former Yote on Nov 19, 2010 13:14:20 GMT -6
#1CoyoteFan, I am a former yote football player and currently work as a compliance administrator at a different NCAA institution.
Your comment about the NCAA finding out has no merit as an occasional meal is permissible per NCAA rules. The Bylaw is below:
NCAA Bylaw 16.11.1.5 Occasional Meals
A student-athlete or the entire team in a sport may receive an occasional meal in the locale of the institution on infrequent and special occasions from an institutional staff member. An institutional staff member may provide reasonable transportation to student-athletes to attend such meals. A student-athlete or the entire team in a sport may receive an occasional meal from a representative of athletics interest on infrequent and special occasions under the following conditions: (a) The meal may only be provided in an individuals home, on campus or at a facility that is regularly used for home competition and may be catered; and (b) A representative of the institutions athletics interest may provide reasonable lacal transportation to student-athletes to attend the meal function only if the meal function is at the home of that representative.
Obviously, Thanksgiving is a special occasion and Ed is not having them over everry weekend so it is infrequent. Secondly, Ed is a smart man and he would clear this with USD compliance prior to doing it and even if he did not and was having them over anyway, he definately would not publicize it.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 19, 2010 13:56:00 GMT -6
GOOD! Thank God. Former Yote, thank you.
I was hoping it didn't fall under a violation. The NCAA has so many STUPID STUPID STUPID rules. Sorry, I know you are a compliance administrator and all, but I mean honestly, there are a lot of crappy rules.
Honestly, I could've seen the NCAA come down hard on this. It's the NCAA. Any money that isn't in their pockets should be in their pockets is what they think.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 19, 2010 14:26:00 GMT -6
He will be back...he has had one bad year....with 5 seniors....it's a transition...anybody who thinks he will be fired is delusional I have a feeling if you were in charge you'd have the 10 years contract already signed sealed and delivered if South Dakota would allow it. How quickly so many people forget that Ed really hasn't accomplished anything in D1, hasn't ever won consistantly without having a weak schedule to overmatch opponents to get wins. He has never truley had to allow his pure coaching abilities to have a successfull season against tough schedules. Every time his teams have played tough schedules they have tended to wilt. The MVFC certainly is going to be tough all the way through it. Looks like another year of mediocracy continues and is fully endorsed by 80% or more of Yote fans.
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Post by Former Yote on Nov 19, 2010 14:28:12 GMT -6
I completely agree that there are a ton of stupid rules. Just because of my job doesn't mean I agree with anything...trust me.
It is amazing though, knowing what I know now how many things I did as a player that were probably violations. It is a crazy and confusing world that the NCAA tries to run. It is my honest opinion that they need to seriously deregulate the entire NCAA rulebook...but I am not important enough to make that decision haha.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 19, 2010 15:08:51 GMT -6
I completely agree that there are a ton of stupid rules. Just because of my job doesn't mean I agree with anything...trust me. It is amazing though, knowing what I know now how many things I did as a player that were probably violations. It is a crazy and confusing world that the NCAA tries to run. It is my honest opinion that they need to seriously deregulate the entire NCAA rulebook...but I am not important enough to make that decision haha. Haha I definitely agree with you on all the rules and such. Wish you had the power. Coyote Fan, while I agree with you that Ed's time has come and gone, I don't think anyone is ready to give him a 10-year deal. In fact, I don't think anyone really gets 10-year deals in football in this day an age unless the name is Bob Stoops, and I think he got his because ND was looking at him, so let's not get too overboard right now. What you have to remember in this is that it's his first losing season at USD and it's a young team. That will play heavily on the decision honestly. Just going by the facts of college football right now.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 19, 2010 16:11:11 GMT -6
Or Kirk Ferentz at Iowa. Some coaches, who have proven their worth, do get long term deals.
As for the Thanksgiving meal, yes, that is very nice of Ed. Vermillion is like that, though, a couple years back some of us who were in town on Thanksgiving got together and started doing T-Day together, think of Batchellor Pad meats Turkey Day. We invited students who we knew over, local townspeople, anybody really. It was one heck of a party.
Also, if you were in the Howling Pack you would know the rules regarding meals. In a recent email newsletter that rule was covered. I always get a kick out of reading that section of the newsletter because, yeah, when I was there back in the day I'm positive we had some infractions. Minor ones, and so long ago I'm sure nobody cares anymore.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 19, 2010 17:13:18 GMT -6
Youth should not be used as a way to excuse this season. I will say this now and will say it again if I need to, young players are supposed to get better with playing time. Young players are supposed to also get better after having been coached up. This years team should have actually started slow and built momentum throughout the season. It would have made a ton of sense in multiple ways. The team would have had had more experience in transition, more experience in tough close game situations and more experience dealing with everything that it takes to be a D1 program. I think a fair term to use with this program is that they have Coyote dementia. They don't seem to learn from past mistakes or for past successes for that matter. USD's struggles came quite a bit on offense which is where many of the players had experience. Dante Warren was the epidomy of this program. He started out strong, was young and unproved but yet with more experience he regressed. Folks that is a coaching issue all around. Players should not regress if they are coached up.
One thing that also boggles my mind. I always thought that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. USD went through the difficult part of their schedule at the beginning to middle of the year. After the UNI game USD should have been battle tested and been ready to improve at the end of the season. Some teams use that to get better but it seems like USD used the tough schedule to get worn down. A very similar parallel was drawn in 2007. USD played a tough schedule as a D2 and got worse and worse as a team the longer the schedule played out. It got to the point where USD went into Omaha on the second to last week and got completely annihilated by UNO in a game that should have been a 50-50 proposition. One week later USD lost at home to UND in a game where I really didn't think the Sioux played all that great. Fool me once (in 2007) shame on you (meaning the schedule and performance), fool me twice (in 2010) shame on me.
This football team is still taking far more steps backwards then forwards at a time when most steps should be forward. So why do I want a change so bad, it's because I have studied the characteristics of the program for many years and have come to the realization that USD does not succeed when the going gets tough, they regress. The MVFC is going to be the perfect example of what will kill the Yotes if they continue their past behavioral characteristics. Ed has had plenty of time and plenty good enough chance to have learned from mistakes to this point and hasn't done it. I don't know what makes people think that suddenly these things will magically change. Ed is Ed, he is rather stubborn, is a nice guy, has a nice personality but is simply in over his head and is not a D1 FCS coach. He has never proven that he can succeed in tough situations for an extended period of time. Many of his good records were greatly assisted by playing far inferior talented teams where the important aspects of stategical coaching stay under cover.
USD is going to need to fire on all cylinders if they are to succeed in the MVFC. I think the talent is there to succeed, now we just need the direction to match.
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