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Post by yoteforever on Feb 25, 2015 8:23:22 GMT -6
Answer and debate the following question
Which one of the two statements below accurately reflect how you think?
1.) As a fan, I'd rather win the conference title during the regular season and lose in the tournament
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2.) As a fan, I'd rather finish 2-4th in the regular season but win the tournament and play in the BIG DANCE?
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Post by golfingyote on Feb 25, 2015 8:45:57 GMT -6
I think most with any common sense will say #2. But how we just finish 1st and win the tourney this year, that also seems like common sense.  |
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Post by yoteforever on Feb 25, 2015 8:57:49 GMT -6
I'm not so sure I agree with you golfingyote. Personally speaking, I think I'd rather order the championship ring and have that for life. Reality of it all would indicate we are going to get beat rather handily the first round anyway, śo why not take a title ring?
It's certainly debateable
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Post by golfingyote on Feb 25, 2015 9:19:19 GMT -6
Well it is a fan forum so I will go with it. First of all, do they really still do rings for regular season titles? I had no idea. (Does AJ have enough fingers to wear all his in Brookings?) But I would say winning the tournament and going to the big dance is more important to me as a fan. I think the summit tournament is what teams build towards all year and ultimately prepare all year for those 4 days. And as a fan I think its cool to watch the selection show and see your team and logo flash on the screen. I think that gives you a sense of pride that you can hang your hat on, rather than saying we had a great year and ultimately came up short when it really mattered while watching the team up north get a chance to play cinderella in the big dance (almost certain to be the case most years). I just feel the chance to play on the biggest stage against a big name outweighs any regular season title and NIT run.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Feb 25, 2015 9:27:32 GMT -6
#2 no doubt, but give a combo of #1 and #2.
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Post by Yote 53 on Feb 25, 2015 9:36:06 GMT -6
You guys have summed up what is wrong with college basketball in general and why college football is better. The college basketball regular season means nothing anymore, it's a season full of exhibition games. Sure, it feels good to win those games but in the end do they really matter? Not really. Build the team up and focus on going on a one week run to win the conference tournament. Then gear up for another weekend run to get to the Sweet 16 and you're golden, all of your losses for the season are forgiven.
March is Madness and alot of people like it but the rest of the season is hollow. Why not make the regular season mean something too? Maybe there should be a rule that a team has to finish in the top half of the conference in order to be eligible for their conference tournament and the AQ to the Big Dance. That would add some spice to the regular season conference race and would reward those teams that have been consistently good over the course of an entire season.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 12:16:18 GMT -6
Maybe there should be a rule that a team has to finish in the top half of the conference in order to be eligible for their conference tournament and the AQ to the Big Dance. That would add some spice to the regular season conference race and would reward those teams that have been consistently good over the course of an entire season. There is for most big conferences. It will be a factor next season in the Summit once UNO becomes eligible for Summit postseason. The last place team doesn't get the opportunity to play in the SLT. |
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Post by Yotes on Feb 25, 2015 12:46:55 GMT -6
You guys have summed up what is wrong with college basketball in general and why college football is better. The college basketball regular season means nothing anymore, it's a season full of exhibition games. Sure, it feels good to win those games but in the end do they really matter? Not really. Build the team up and focus on going on a one week run to win the conference tournament. Then gear up for another weekend run to get to the Sweet 16 and you're golden, all of your losses for the season are forgiven. March is Madness and alot of people like it but the rest of the season is hollow. Why not make the regular season mean something too? Maybe there should be a rule that a team has to finish in the top half of the conference in order to be eligible for their conference tournament and the AQ to the Big Dance. That would add some spice to the regular season conference race and would reward those teams that have been consistently good over the course of an entire season. This can really be said of any league that settles it's champion via playoffs. Teams with losing records can and have made the playoffs in the professional leagues, they had just as equal of a shot at the title as the top seeds despite poor records. I love watching the conference tournaments. There is certainly a flaw in having teams 1-8 all have an equal shot in the Summit. Do what the WCC does and give byes and double byes to reward a strong regular season. |
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Post by golfingyote on Feb 25, 2015 13:33:38 GMT -6
You guys have summed up what is wrong with college basketball in general and why college football is better. The college basketball regular season means nothing anymore, it's a season full of exhibition games. Sure, it feels good to win those games but in the end do they really matter? Not really. Build the team up and focus on going on a one week run to win the conference tournament. Then gear up for another weekend run to get to the Sweet 16 and you're golden, all of your losses for the season are forgiven. March is Madness and alot of people like it but the rest of the season is hollow. Why not make the regular season mean something too? Maybe there should be a rule that a team has to finish in the top half of the conference in order to be eligible for their conference tournament and the AQ to the Big Dance. That would add some spice to the regular season conference race and would reward those teams that have been consistently good over the course of an entire season. This can really be said of any league that settles it's champion via playoffs. Teams with losing records can and have made the playoffs in the professional leagues, they had just as equal of a shot at the title as the top seeds despite poor records. I love watching the conference tournaments. There is certainly a flaw in having teams 1-8 all have an equal shot in the Summit. Do what the WCC does and give byes and double byes to reward a strong regular season. I do not beleive the WCC does double byes. I dont watch alot of the small conference besides the summit and the valley, but in most of the bigger conferences everyone makes the conference tournament. And for conferences like the ACC they have a double bye, but they have 15 teams. A double bye in a conference of 8 teams doesnt really work. WCC has 10 and essentially has play in games I think? I know what you guys are saying, but Im not really sure how you fix it. I actually like that everyone has a chance to make a push and get in (example- Syracuse with Mcnamara in 2006 going crazy in big east tourney). Creates storylines and excitement up to the big tourney. |
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Post by ctc2010 on Feb 25, 2015 15:02:01 GMT -6
You guys have summed up what is wrong with college basketball in general and why college football is better. The college basketball regular season means nothing anymore, it's a season full of exhibition games. Sure, it feels good to win those games but in the end do they really matter? Not really. Build the team up and focus on going on a one week run to win the conference tournament. Then gear up for another weekend run to get to the Sweet 16 and you're golden, all of your losses for the season are forgiven. March is Madness and alot of people like it but the rest of the season is hollow. Why not make the regular season mean something too? Maybe there should be a rule that a team has to finish in the top half of the conference in order to be eligible for their conference tournament and the AQ to the Big Dance. That would add some spice to the regular season conference race and would reward those teams that have been consistently good over the course of an entire season. This can really be said of any league that settles it's champion via playoffs. Teams with losing records can and have made the playoffs in the professional leagues, they had just as equal of a shot at the title as the top seeds despite poor records. I love watching the conference tournaments. There is certainly a flaw in having teams 1-8 all have an equal shot in the Summit. Do what the WCC does and give byes and double byes to reward a strong regular season. It's both a good thing and a bad thing. Take last year for instance. I remember reading something saying that if Denver had won the Summit League Tournament last year they would've been the worst team (record-wise) to ever make the women's tournament. Don't quote me, but I'm fairly certain that's what I read |
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Post by Yotes on Feb 25, 2015 17:25:24 GMT -6
This can really be said of any league that settles it's champion via playoffs. Teams with losing records can and have made the playoffs in the professional leagues, they had just as equal of a shot at the title as the top seeds despite poor records. I love watching the conference tournaments. There is certainly a flaw in having teams 1-8 all have an equal shot in the Summit. Do what the WCC does and give byes and double byes to reward a strong regular season. I do not beleive the WCC does double byes. I dont watch alot of the small conference besides the summit and the valley, but in most of the bigger conferences everyone makes the conference tournament. And for conferences like the ACC they have a double bye, but they have 15 teams. A double bye in a conference of 8 teams doesnt really work. WCC has 10 and essentially has play in games I think? I know what you guys are saying, but Im not really sure how you fix it. I actually like that everyone has a chance to make a push and get in (example- Syracuse with Mcnamara in 2006 going crazy in big east tourney). Creates storylines and excitement up to the big tourney. I'm pretty sure the WCC gives their 1 and 2 seeds byes to the semis and the 3 and 4 seeds byes to the quarters with a play in game between the 8 and 9 seeds. Maybe I'm mistaken on who uses this format, but I think that's the perfect format to reward the teams who had good seasons. Everyone should have a shot, but not necessarily an equal shot. Edit: I had to check, and the WCC used this format in 2012 and 2013 when they had 9 teams. With 10 teams they put seeds 1-6 into the quarters and have 7-10 do a play in round. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 25, 2015 18:49:41 GMT -6
Very good question and one of that I have definately thought of myself. My first choice is to win the conference tourney and go to the NCAA tourney. Since the Coyotes won the tourney last year and have that under their belt I would rather get the regular season title this year if you held a gun to my head. Both would certainly be nice though. I think the regular season champ is truly the best team whereas the tourney winner is the hottest team and in some cases the best team. For the first time it's the conference tourney, for the second time it's the regular season championship. In the future if the Yotes had both I would probably switch back to wanting the NCAA tournament bid again.
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Post by fightsd on Mar 3, 2015 7:56:04 GMT -6
I like this thread. I guess if I had to choose between the two I'd rather win the tournament. It's a great opportunity to showcase our university on the biggest stage in college basketball. I remember seeing an argument on these boards that went something like, "Which is better, winning the FCS National Championship or making a run in the NCAA BB Tournament?" The exposure is certainly better in the tournament.
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