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Post by sdyotefan on Oct 22, 2015 16:04:33 GMT -6
The minus 4 yds rushing is correct! Can be verified on the bunny FB site. I watched the game and NDSU totally dominated. If it was a fight it would have been stopped.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 22, 2015 16:15:14 GMT -6
Just looking over the stats from NDSU's games now...at least UND was able to get positive four yards on NDSU. Can't tell if NDSU really brought their best against UND and SDSU or if those two wanted to beat the Bison so bad that they collapsed in on themselves and never stood a chance.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 22, 2015 18:07:24 GMT -6
You are right yotefan it was 37 years (2015-1978). Turns out besides having trouble beating the Coyotes some sports commentators north of South Dakota also had trouble with basic math. Unfortunately that also was carried over to ESPN's SC where they showed Mile's game winning kick and said 47 years. So anyone who wants real facts they have to look no further than posts on this board!!  I disagree that Kansas and Minnesota teams were similarly weak. Decker the MN QB held several Gopher records and was picked up by the Broncos for a period of time. Being the first school from SD to beat an FBS school was a big deal and certainly the NDSU victory was huge also. No doubt as a team with 4 championships, 26 home wins, etc NDSU had a better team history. Both victories will be long remembered by Coyote faithful. A more interesting question might be in the history of FCS football is there a bigger upset than USD besting NDSU?? Would be hard to top. In the history of FCS football I would have to imagine their would be bigger upsets. USD has been poor in the MVFC but as far as I know by reading past comments their computer rankings still have them as an average to above average team when compared to the rest of the country. When it comes to power ratings I am sure there have been instances where a very lowly rated team in FCS won against a team in the very top of the ratings. Haven't looked for an example but I am sure there are multiple instances. Who knows. |
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Post by nccyote on Oct 23, 2015 9:44:07 GMT -6
USD just beats the teams that State can't. Plus it should be "this year's", you missed the apostrophe - where'd you go to school anyway? Oh wait.... You know you have a great argument when you have to bring in grammar corrections on a message board... So does that mean USD is having a successful season because they beat NDSU and SDSU didn't? It's going to be a really good season if USD beats SDSU then huh? Please lower you expectations some more. A successful season doesn't revolve around 1 or 2 games on the schedule (SDSU, NDSU). It's about the body or work. That is how you get to the playoffs. But I wouldn't expect you to know since the Yotes have yet to be there. Yessss! I love how sensitive state fans are....especially when you don't even consider us a rival anymore. State clearly has the better football program lately, no argument there. How many years after the transition to fully funded FCS did it take before state made the playoffs? That's a serious question. How far behind is USD in comparison to state's success after the transition? |
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Post by Yotes on Oct 23, 2015 9:54:36 GMT -6
You know you have a great argument when you have to bring in grammar corrections on a message board... So does that mean USD is having a successful season because they beat NDSU and SDSU didn't? It's going to be a really good season if USD beats SDSU then huh? Please lower you expectations some more. A successful season doesn't revolve around 1 or 2 games on the schedule (SDSU, NDSU). It's about the body or work. That is how you get to the playoffs. But I wouldn't expect you to know since the Yotes have yet to be there. Yessss! I love how sensitive state fans are....especially when you don't even consider us a rival anymore. State clearly has the better football program lately, no argument there. How many years after the transition to fully funded FCS did it take before state made the playoffs? That's a serious question. How far behind is USD in comparison to state's success after the transition? Pretty sure they had a rough time during the transition then became a playoff team very shortly after becoming eligible, maybe in year two? Doesn't matter though. Really hate the focus so many of you decide to put on other football teams. |
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Post by fightsd on Oct 23, 2015 9:58:11 GMT -6
You know you have a great argument when you have to bring in grammar corrections on a message board... So does that mean USD is having a successful season because they beat NDSU and SDSU didn't? It's going to be a really good season if USD beats SDSU then huh? Please lower you expectations some more. A successful season doesn't revolve around 1 or 2 games on the schedule (SDSU, NDSU). It's about the body or work. That is how you get to the playoffs. But I wouldn't expect you to know since the Yotes have yet to be there. Yessss! I love how sensitive state fans are....especially when you don't even consider us a rival anymore. State clearly has the better football program lately, no argument there. How many years after the transition to fully funded FCS did it take before state made the playoffs? That's a serious question. How far behind is USD in comparison to state's success after the transition? The answer to your question is 5 years. First season as FCS Div. 1 was 2004 and they made the playoffs in 2009. That's not really a fair comparison though. The valley is stronger now that it's ever been, including when state joined. Our program was obviously not in a good place and we stumbled into the gauntlet that has been the MVFC for the few years. |
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Post by jackl on Oct 23, 2015 10:46:31 GMT -6
Yessss! I love how sensitive state fans are....especially when you don't even consider us a rival anymore. State clearly has the better football program lately, no argument there. How many years after the transition to fully funded FCS did it take before state made the playoffs? That's a serious question. How far behind is USD in comparison to state's success after the transition? Pretty sure they had a rough time during the transition then became a playoff team very shortly after becoming eligible, maybe in year two? Doesn't matter though. Really hate the focus so many of you decide to put on other football teams. The Jacks made the playoffs the first year they were eligible, in 2009. At that time only 16 teams made the playoffs as opposed to 24 now. SDSU's Valley record was 7-1. As a comparison USD had a record of 0-8 their first year. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Oct 23, 2015 10:48:36 GMT -6
...and ---> "The valley is stronger now that it's ever been, including when state joined. Our program was obviously not in a good place and we stumbled into the gauntlet that has been the MVFC for the few years."
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Post by nccyote on Oct 23, 2015 10:56:29 GMT -6
Pretty sure they had a rough time during the transition then became a playoff team very shortly after becoming eligible, maybe in year two? Doesn't matter though. Really hate the focus so many of you decide to put on other football teams.Isn't that sort of the point of this thread. It's hard to put wins into context without looking at other teams and comparing the Yotes to them. Anyway...its Friday, take a deep breath...it's all in fun. Here's to another step in the right direction for the Coyote Football program tomorrow! Cheers everybody Go Yotes! |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 23, 2015 16:56:35 GMT -6
There is no comparison whatsoever when it comes to measuring USD and SDSU during every stage of transition. SDSU did not do so well their first year but after that they made strides and got better and better fairly quickly. The transition wasn't that big of a deal for them. They had basically everything in place for coaches that they had in D2. They just stepped up their game and probably stepped up their recruiting. USD is comparable now and basically every year since to what SDSU was in their second year of transition and arguably their first year. I realize that the Valley is tougher now than ever but SDSU was competitive in the Valley pretty much right away and it's not like the Valley was a gathering of the weak sisters. It was still a very tough conference. Coyote Fans use the Valley as too much of an excuse. The bottom line is that the Yotes are to be measured by what they do in this conference not what they do against non conference teams. The Jacks actually struggled more with non conference teams than they did against Valley programs. Maybe it is because they get better and better as the year goes on. With hopefully a fresh start next year the Yotes can really build the program to a higher level conference program.
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 23, 2015 20:46:57 GMT -6
I think it's rather unlikely we would win 4 or 5 of the games left, but if we did, would you still want a fresh start next year? After all, if we do win tomorrow, we would be 4-3. Not awesome, but not horrible. Can't you at least hold the firing / quitting talk till the end of the year. Good God, these young men just beat the #2 team in the nation on the road. Please don't write them off yet.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 24, 2015 0:17:48 GMT -6
I think it's rather unlikely we would win 4 or 5 of the games left, but if we did, would you still want a fresh start next year? After all, if we do win tomorrow, we would be 4-3. Not awesome, but not horrible. Can't you at least hold the firing / quitting talk till the end of the year. Good God, these young men just beat the #2 team in the nation on the road. Please don't write them off yet. Do as I did and just ignore the post. CF posted in a football thread, it probably isn't worth reading. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 24, 2015 11:20:22 GMT -6
I think it's rather unlikely we would win 4 or 5 of the games left, but if we did, would you still want a fresh start next year? After all, if we do win tomorrow, we would be 4-3. Not awesome, but not horrible. Can't you at least hold the firing / quitting talk till the end of the year. Good God, these young men just beat the #2 team in the nation on the road. Please don't write them off yet. As of now I am still in the camp of wanting a change until the Coyotes prove that they can consistently put out a good effort week in and week out. If they win out they would make the playoffs and than I wouldn't want a change. If the Yotes finish 4-4 or better in the conference this season I will quiet my comments of wanting a new start next year. Is that fair enough? After the last 3 years I am putting the burden of proof on the Coyotes to show they are truly a changed program. I will not be a believer until I see a full season of consistant improvement. The NDSU game obviously helps their case but there is still 5 games to go. I am not putting a whole lot of stock into the Missouri State game because the Coyotes should win that game. The games collectively against UNI, SIU, SDSU and Ill St will show whether this team is a changed team or not. I am not sold yet but at least I have enough interest to continue watching the games this year. |
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