usdlaw
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Post by usdlaw on Jan 31, 2011 11:21:44 GMT -6
Check out the Howling Pack Lunch with the U section of this forum.
Commissioner Douple will speak at a special Lunch with the U on March 3rd at NOON at the 41st St Pizza Ranch (near O'Gorman HS). Please join us and add to your calendar.
Thanks for your support.
He will have a question and answer period. A great time for those "reasonable" questions. We're lucky to have him do this.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Jan 31, 2011 13:50:43 GMT -6
Huh, wonder why he isn't doing this with North Dakota fans right now lol. North Dakota isn't too happy with him right now lol.
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 31, 2011 14:18:29 GMT -6
Another reason I'm not that high on the Summit. There is/was just too much unprofessional stuff going on between Douple and UND. The Summit interjected itself into a controversy they should have left alone. If the Summit didn't want to look at UND because of the name controversy, Douple should have kept that to himself and not made it public. The BSC, in comparison, makes the Summit look like a second rate operation right now.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Jan 31, 2011 16:13:29 GMT -6
Douple was asked, gave his opinion and yeah it may not have been the most professional, but I know the AD at UND was happy Douple said it I bet, especially from the comments he made on ESPN. Look at what the Big 10 Commissioner has said in the past year, I think Douple is mild compared to that.
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 31, 2011 20:59:13 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't think the AD, or especially the President, at UND are very thrilled about Douple's comments. They've had to come out and defend themselves twice on the subject and there is still a healthy portion of Sioux fans who don't believe Pres Kelley. Many of them think he's been trying to get rid of the nickname all along, that that is what he was brought in to do. These comments have only fueled their fire. No, I don't think Douple helped anyone at UND out.
The commisioner of the most powerful conference in the NCAA can come out and make bold, even controversial remarks. Douple is no Jim Delaney. He is on the other end of the spectrum, the commisioner of a conference fighting for an identity, or even survival. And we signed up to stay with this group when we had the chance to associate with a better lot. Sheesh.
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Post by usdlaw on Jan 31, 2011 22:08:25 GMT -6
I don't know what he said, and frankly I don't care. This is a big deal that he was willing to come speak to a bunch of USD fans. This is not something he is required to do.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Jan 31, 2011 23:12:42 GMT -6
Sorry if Douple said something that so many people, including those like the President and AD have said, that the nickname has to go. Honestly, whatever Douple said, who cares. I think he has been great for the league and UND has only shot itself in the foot. Great they are going to Big Sky, but with the way their programs are, it's not exactly a great move for them. That's an athletic program that has moving downward, not upward, since the whole logo thing began.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Jan 31, 2011 23:13:08 GMT -6
And once again I say, if you want USD to be in the Big Sky, how much do you want your tickets raised to help cover traveling costs? ?
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 31, 2011 23:44:32 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong, I think it is great for him to come speak to USD supporters. It is just my opinion that he should have not interjected the Summit into their internal struggle in the first place. Then, to make the claims he did, out of the blue, well, I don't know what the point of that was.
In case you are wondering, last week the Summit Commish is quoted in an article in the Fargo paper saying that UND Pres Kelley asked Douple to make the settling of their name/logo dispute a condition of consideration for the Summit. That's kind of a big deal for some people up there and some see it as proof that the UND Pres has been trying to get rid of their name all along, and to use an outside source and D1 conference membership as leverage, well that is quite a claim. The backdrop to this is a couple bills in the ND Legislature right now mandating UND keep the Sioux name. The whole thing is a crapmess.
Remember how the Summit had a site visit scheduled and UND told them not to bother at the last minute? Making the claims he did kind of reaks of a petty payback for UND choosing to go to the BSC. I just don't like that very much. I think the commish should be more diplomatic than that.
As for raising ticket prices. Wouldn't really need to. There would be less travel in the Big Sky than we have in the Great West right now. Our current conference spreads from New Jersey to Texas to Utah. There would be a lot less travel. We've already shown we are handling those costs the way they are. But I wouldn't mind if they did raise ticket prices, they should, this isn't D2 competition, and we aren't playing Morningside anymore. The step up in competition is worth it.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Feb 1, 2011 0:18:44 GMT -6
First off, in terms of travel in the GWC, that's what, five conference road games? USD makes up for that with home games against Midland and Mayville States for home games honestly. More money would be spent on travel for BSC conference games.
Also, if Douple was asked by the paper, then there is validity about it and Douple gave an honest answer and didn't lie. It's not like Douple called and said "hey I have a story." Also, if you didn't know the President asked Douple to do this, then I am shocked. This was no state secret. The President and AD have wanted this nickname gone for three years and have been doing everything to try and get rid of it.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 1, 2011 0:52:41 GMT -6
I was and am for the Big Sky but I have come to terms with the Summit. Lets keep in mind that just because the Yotes are in the Summit now doesn't mean it will always be that way. If getting into the Summit and getting a new basketball arena is on one side of fence and getting into the Big Sky with no arena was on the other side of the fence I would have to take the Summit/New arena. That is how important I think getting the new basketball facility is. I would have liked the Big Sky and a new arena but that may not have been possible and some of it for reasons that we may never know.
Keep one thing in mind. If you take the best paved road south of Vermillion and drive about 8 miles what do you get to. You figure that out but I will say that if USD is that close to a particular geographic feature than they should be in the all sports conference named after it.
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Post by Yote 53 on Feb 1, 2011 8:44:04 GMT -6
I agree with you CF, the Mo Valley should be the ultimate goal for USD. While I believe the BSC to be the better, more prominant conference, the Summit is just fine for USD right now. It offers a reunion with the SU's, which is a good thing. I hope we continue annually scheduling UND in all sports, including football. That would be the best of both worlds. I am very excited about the MVFC, to tell you the truth.
CF #1, no, the commish didn't call up the paper, but when asked he could of done some political speak and given a non answer or provided the UND admins some cover. The UND ship may have sailed for the Summit but I doubt we will be the last member to ever enter the Summit and the next Pres the conference courts may look upon this episode with disdain. University presidents have a way of looking out for each other.
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Post by jackl on Feb 1, 2011 11:07:11 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong, I think it is great for him to come speak to USD supporters. It is just my opinion that he should have not interjected the Summit into their internal struggle in the first place. Then, to make the claims he did, out of the blue, well, I don't know what the point of that was. In case you are wondering, last week the Summit Commish is quoted in an article in the Fargo paper saying that UND Pres Kelley asked Douple to make the settling of their name/logo dispute a condition of consideration for the Summit. That's kind of a big deal for some people up there and some see it as proof that the UND Pres has been trying to get rid of their name all along, and to use an outside source and D1 conference membership as leverage, well that is quite a claim. The backdrop to this is a couple bills in the ND Legislature right now mandating UND keep the Sioux name. The whole thing is a crapmess. Remember how the Summit had a site visit scheduled and UND told them not to bother at the last minute? Making the claims he did kind of reaks of a petty payback for UND choosing to go to the BSC. I just don't like that very much. I think the commish should be more diplomatic than that. As for raising ticket prices. Wouldn't really need to. There would be less travel in the Big Sky than we have in the Great West right now. Our current conference spreads from New Jersey to Texas to Utah. There would be a lot less travel. We've already shown we are handling those costs the way they are. But I wouldn't mind if they did raise ticket prices, they should, this isn't D2 competition, and we aren't playing Morningside anymore. The step up in competition is worth it. USD might have been "handling" their travel costs,but keep in mind that you played 2 "money games" last year with 2 more on the schedule for this year. If you want to make the playoffs, that is obviously unsustainable.The other obvious thing, is travel costs will continue to climb.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Feb 1, 2011 12:11:57 GMT -6
Yote 53,
As a member of this business, I am sick of people holding what actually happened or their opinions back. I am glad Douple said it because it needed to be said. If UND's President had some balls, he would've said it himself instead of just hiding behind a wall but yet still working to get it done. If the UND President said hey, this is REALLY hurting our move to D-I and we can't remain D-I with what the NCAA is doing.
Sorry if Douple said the truth instead of lying or not saying anything, but he answered the question honestly. Sometimes it opens a can of worms like it did here, but it seems everything is so touch and go at UND. Sorry if he said something to make them mad, but this isn't nearly that bad. What Delaney said and other conferences have said are much, much worse.
This is just reason for the BSC people to complain honestly.
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Post by usdlaw on Feb 1, 2011 13:25:31 GMT -6
Let's move past this whole UND discussion and focus on USD. Thanks. I started the thread to tell people how excited we were to be able to get Douple to speak at the Howling Pack event Lunch with the U. It's turned a different direction.
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