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Post by usdtator on Nov 7, 2017 9:38:43 GMT -6
gopheryote--not to belabor the point but your post said "4 or 5 years we haven't lost in Fargo" so your info was misleading and since we didn't play them there in 2014 or 2016 it would be hard to lose to them "there". Maybe just say, since 2014, the Yotes have a better record vs the Bizun in the Fargo Dome than they do at home... It was all meant to be funny and I think most of us saw it that way. |
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Post by 3rdgencoyote on Nov 7, 2017 9:45:53 GMT -6
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Post by gopheryote on Nov 7, 2017 13:27:50 GMT -6
Ok - I'll try another one (stay with me here sdyotefan):
This game is huge nationally, not just because both teams are in the top 10, but also these two teams have combined to win 5 of the last 6 national championships.
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Post by 94grad on Nov 7, 2017 13:59:41 GMT -6
Ok - I'll try another one (stay with me here sdyotefan): This game is huge nationally, not just because both teams are in the top 10, but also these two teams have combined to win 5 of the last 6 national championships. This reminds me of the night Stacey King and Michael Jordan combined to score 70 points. |
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Post by aldewitt on Nov 7, 2017 17:16:12 GMT -6
Head to Head comparisons:
WIU @ NDSU: Bison win 24-12 USD @ WIU: USD wins 38-33
NDSU @ YSU: Bison win 27-24 YSU @ USD: USD wins 31-28
UNI @ NDSU: Bison win 30-14 USD @ UNI: USD Loses 29-34
There isnt much to be learned from the rest of the common opponents. They were easily disposed of.
The definitive common opponent is UNI. It didnt seem to matter much which team was at home for the other key opponents but USD losing on the road may be just a bad game or a sign the road is rough for the Yotes? With the spread at USD +3 its something to think about.
I think the key for the Coyotes is the passing game. They may not break 100 on the ground.
The Bison offense has been sputtering. Injuries are part of that but overall it is not as efficient as it was earlier in the season. One other thing that may be contributing to the weekly weakening of the Bison offense is the competition. Early it was easy. Its been getting playoff tough here the past few weeks.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 7, 2017 18:19:30 GMT -6
This will be the first true challenge the Coyotes have had after a loss. This is a game of both teams bouncing back but the Bison haven't really had a wake up call until the SDSU game. I am not so much concerned that the Coyotes can't compete with the Bison when you look at the common opponents or their offense being a tough match up for the Bison D. What I am concerned about are the intangible for this one. IMO the Bison will be the team with more energy at home and the Fargo dome is rough on opponents. I also worry about Streveler being at 100% coming in and if so if he can get through the entire game against a physical Bison defense and be at close to full strength. He will be badly needed for the season finale as well.
So far the Coyotes have matched up the best with teams that are good on offense and not so much on defense. They have lost the games against the good D fronts except for YSU which was a very close home game. The Coyotes best chance will be with a healthy Steveler and a fast paced offense clicking at full speed. If the Coyotes can do that they can go a long ways to wear down the Bison D in the second half. The hurry up isn't just designed to put up points but is designed to keep D's off balance and wear them down later in the game.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 7, 2017 21:39:15 GMT -6
Without any ability to give a true in-depth analysis, I have to say that I like our chances in Fargo. Our strengths seem to align with their weaknesses. They're really struggling on the ground right now and we've been pretty good in that department, having just limited UNI to 55 yards. If the run game is shut down then they have to rely on Easton Stick, who isn't exactly a great QB. Stick has thrown 7 INTs the last 3 games and has only really shined against the garbage teams on their schedule. We might just shut NDSU down on offense.
Then, of course, if the offense takes care of the ball we'll be able to cruise to a comfortable victory. I really like our chances here.
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Post by thebacksackdad on Nov 8, 2017 20:03:50 GMT -6
I like both of the last 2 posts and think both are correct. I'd say Yotes is spot on. However, I think the atmosphere and the opposing fans crowd may get USD out of it's game like CF brings up. If they can block that out, USD wins. USD is a maturing team and I think they've learned not only from ILState and but again this last week at UNI. Block that crowd out! Play your game and you win. NDSU being champs the last 4 of 5 years has ziltch to do with who wins this game or who is the better team this year. Get in the zone early and stay in it. btw...if we have the lead...please, please, please offense...you have a D that will sustain the win!!! ...and you are still in control of winning the conference!!!
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Post by obc on Nov 9, 2017 18:35:29 GMT -6
I am feeling good about USD's chances (as long as Streveler is moderately healthy). Every year is different, but in 2015 when USD beat NDSU in Fargo, USD was not as good as they are now, and I believe NDSU was a better team than they are now. That day, USD was able to overcome some adversity (down 14-0 at the start of the game) and control the LOS after that. Having success slowing down the Bison run game and having success running the ball at times. Both Bouma and Saeger hurt the Bison on the ground.
Last year USD obviously lost by 7 to the Bison, but were down two scores at one point in the game. USD also gave up significant yards on the ground. USD has played this team close the last two times (and lets face it, 90% of the players playing have only participated in the last two match-ups.) Not sure if NDSU is better or worse than last year, but I am confident USD is better than they were last year. Quite a bit better IMO.
SDSU won their game against NDSU because they dominated in the turnover margin and they were able to run the ball effectively (winning the battle on the LOS). If USD can keep NDSU under 200 yards rushing and also rush in the 150 yard range on offense, I think this will be a Coyote win.
I do think NDSU is going to come out angry and wanting to create a physical slug-fest type game. My guess is they will want to steamroll USD by running power over and over until USD proves they can stop it. I also would not be surprised to see NDSU use their QB as a running threat more often than what they have done so far this year. If NDSU rushes for more than 200 yards on Saturday my guess is that the QB running effectively will be the culprit.
I think both USD and NDSU will rebound and have great ball security all game.
I am going to go with USD by 7 with USD taking a two score lead at some point and NDSU putting on pressure at the end of the game. This is a big challenge and will require USD's best execution of the year and I think we will see just that.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Nov 9, 2017 18:51:17 GMT -6
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 9, 2017 18:59:31 GMT -6
Will this game feature the all green Bison vs the all white Coyotes. For awhile the all white was having success but after having lost two in a row in those UNI's I think it is time to break out the red helmets on the road. If anyone believes in superstitions they wore their normal red helmets when they played their 2 years ago. I would like to see the red helmets more often as that is supposed to be the normal helmet but we have fallen in love with the white helmets it would seem. My personal favorite would be to put the logo that is on the white helmets on the red helmets and have that be the standard helmet. I would also like to see a red out at the dome against SDSU. Red everything (jersey's, pants and helmets) would be cool as I like that look. If not all red except white helmets would also look sharp.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Nov 9, 2017 19:33:13 GMT -6
USD MVFC Rank NDSU MVFC Rank
41.6 1st Scoring Offense 40.0 2nd
524.0 1st Total Offense 442.7 3rd
200.1 3rd Rushing Offense 259.0 1st
323.9 1st Passing Offense 183.7 10th
19.9 3rd Scoring Defense 12.7 1st
352.7 4th Total Defense 219.9 1st
120.1 3rd Rushing Defense 77.4 1st
232.6 6th Passing Defense 142.4 1st
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 9, 2017 19:47:44 GMT -6
USD MVFC Rank NDSU MVFC Rank 41.6 1st Scoring Offense 40.0 2nd 524.0 1st Total Offense 442.7 3rd 200.1 3rd Rushing Offense 259.0 1st 323.9 1st Passing Offense 183.7 10th 19.9 3rd Scoring Defense 12.7 1st 352.7 4th Total Defense 219.9 1st 120.1 3rd Rushing Defense 77.4 1st 232.6 6th Passing Defense 142.4 1st Is this in conference games only or for all games. |
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Nov 9, 2017 19:57:03 GMT -6
all games
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Post by thebacksackdad on Nov 9, 2017 22:34:13 GMT -6
I am feeling good about USD's chances (as long as Streveler is moderately healthy). Every year is different, but in 2015 when USD beat NDSU in Fargo, USD was not as good as they are now, and I believe NDSU was a better team than they are now. That day, USD was able to overcome some adversity (down 14-0 at the start of the game) and control the LOS after that. Having success slowing down the Bison run game and having success running the ball at times. Both Bouma and Saeger hurt the Bison on the ground. Last year USD obviously lost by 7 to the Bison, but were down two scores at one point in the game. USD also gave up significant yards on the ground. USD has played this team close the last two times (and lets face it, 90% of the players playing have only participated in the last two match-ups.) Not sure if NDSU is better or worse than last year, but I am confident USD is better than they were last year. Quite a bit better IMO. SDSU won their game against NDSU because they dominated in the turnover margin and they were able to run the ball effectively (winning the battle on the LOS). If USD can keep NDSU under 200 yards rushing and also rush in the 150 yard range on offense, I think this will be a Coyote win. I do think NDSU is going to come out angry and wanting to create a physical slug-fest type game. My guess is they will want to steamroll USD by running power over and over until USD proves they can stop it. I also would not be surprised to see NDSU use their QB as a running threat more often than what they have done so far this year. If NDSU rushes for more than 200 yards on Saturday my guess is that the QB running effectively will be the culprit. I think both USD and NDSU will rebound and have great ball security all game. I am going to go with USD by 7 with USD taking a two score lead at some point and NDSU putting on pressure at the end of the game. This is a big challenge and will require USD's best execution of the year and I think we will see just that. I will place any type of wager u like that NDSU does not win running. |
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