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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 10, 2017 17:28:20 GMT -6
This is a good way to find out if you are an optimist (homer), are right on with the pulse of the program, or a pessimist.
When you predict wins and losses.
If you predict more wins that end up losses then visa-versa then you are a homer. (most people fall into this category)
If you predict about as many wins that end up losses as losses that end up wins then you have the pulse of the program. (this is where I happen to fall this year in football)
If you predict more losses that end up wins than wins that end up losses then you are a pessimist.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Nov 10, 2017 18:56:27 GMT -6
This is a good way to find out if you are an optimist (homer), are right on with the pulse of the program, or a pessimist. When you predict wins and losses. If you predict more wins that end up losses then visa-versa then you are a homer. (most people fall into this category) If you predict about as many wins that end up losses as losses that end up wins then you have the pulse of the program. (this is where I happen to fall this year in football) If you predict more losses that end up wins than wins that end up losses then you are a pessimist. Truth. Optimism and Homerism are very different and many people lump them together. I am an optimist but moreso a realist. I also follow the teams pretty closely so I feel I have a decent gauge on my predictions or confidence. I sometimes get talked down to for predicting losses or showing somewhat pessimistic posts, but always to try to give my "mosty" unbiased view. I was baffled to see Lamb as the leader in minutes. A Arens seems to be starting the year playing tight like she did at the end of last year. She just needs to be confident and trust her game and she will be fine. Overall a good effort and a promising sign if the Yotes can closely lose to ISU with their top players not impressing. They will have a chance to compete for the conference and tourney titles.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 10, 2017 22:28:50 GMT -6
This is a good way to find out if you are an optimist (homer), are right on with the pulse of the program, or a pessimist. When you predict wins and losses. If you predict more wins that end up losses then visa-versa then you are a homer. (most people fall into this category) If you predict about as many wins that end up losses as losses that end up wins then you have the pulse of the program. (this is where I happen to fall this year in football) If you predict more losses that end up wins than wins that end up losses then you are a pessimist. Are you saying you have the pulse of the football program??? Lol You said 5..maybe 6 wins tops. We have 7 now with 2 to go. You have no pulse. I am a HOMER
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Post by coyoteglory on Nov 10, 2017 22:55:32 GMT -6
Checking the box score Caitlin only played 9 minutes today and McKeever only 7. McKeever's defense sure could have been used a little more often IMO. Lamb played the most minutes with 33 and was 4-13 from the field. Today's game was very odd from a minutes stand point and a true freshman co led the team in shot attempts. Going forward the shot attempts in order should be closer to this. A Arens, Bradley, Caitlin Duffy, Trimboli, Ciara Duffy. Even more interesting when you consider the fact that one of the biggest runs of the game was when Caitlin Duffy and McKeever were in at the end of the first half. Our next biggest run was at the beginning of the second half. The fourth quarter was basically all of the same lineup, yet we were consistently losing ground. Interesting that there was no shift.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 10, 2017 23:41:39 GMT -6
This is a good way to find out if you are an optimist (homer), are right on with the pulse of the program, or a pessimist. When you predict wins and losses. If you predict more wins that end up losses then visa-versa then you are a homer. (most people fall into this category) If you predict about as many wins that end up losses as losses that end up wins then you have the pulse of the program. (this is where I happen to fall this year in football) If you predict more losses that end up wins than wins that end up losses then you are a pessimist. Are you saying you have the pulse of the football program??? Lol You said 5..maybe 6 wins tops. We have 7 now with 2 to go. You have no pulse. I am a HOMER You are a homer and being too close to the program and letting your emotions get in the way is why you would never make a good AD. Nielson would never have been here because you would have never gotten rid of previous regimes because of loyalty despite losing season after losing season. You are the better cheer leader and I would be the better decision maker. You support losing and I support winning. I may be more ruthless and I bring the New York Yankee approach where you would be too country club. I would demand accountability and you would only care about loyalty despite job performance. I would always have access to analytics and you could probably care less about them despite it being the modern approach. You are old school, I am modern in thinking. You would have given Glen a lifetime contract and if he wanted to stay until he was 80 you would allow him to because he would have deserved it despite never having won at USD. You have picked USD to win tomorrow. I really want you to be right but that is very likely to simply not be the case. I said earlier that USD had a 5-10% chance but I was wrong. It is probably more like 20% chance. I hope the Coyotes win tomorrow believe me because it would make a very exciting week leading up to the SDSU game. I will be more than happy to be wrong about it but the Bison are simply going to have more energy then the Coyotes and they will feed off the Fargo Dome more then ever. They know it is a big game. The only way I see the Coyotes winning is if they run their hurry up until the game is a complete blowout. If the game comes down to a last possession or two type of game the Coyote offense will freeze up and it will favor NDSU. The program is getting better but we are not ready to win in Fargo just yet. 2015 was an any given saturday type game which is unlikely to repeat itself. The Coyotes were better that day but the Bison win that game 90% of the time. I would feel better about tomorrow if Illinois State and/or UNI did not happen but it did. Even if the Coyotes were undefeated I would still pick NDSU to win. These guys just won 5 straight titles. I am not picking against the Coyotes as much as I am picking for the Bison. The Fargo Dome is a top 20 type home field advantage of any level of college football. I will be more than happy to come back here tomorrow and happily admit to being wrong. Will you do the same Yoteforever?
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 11, 2017 0:03:06 GMT -6
Checking the box score Caitlin only played 9 minutes today and McKeever only 7. McKeever's defense sure could have been used a little more often IMO. Lamb played the most minutes with 33 and was 4-13 from the field. Today's game was very odd from a minutes stand point and a true freshman co led the team in shot attempts. Going forward the shot attempts in order should be closer to this. A Arens, Bradley, Caitlin Duffy, Trimboli, Ciara Duffy. Even more interesting when you consider the fact that one of the biggest runs of the game was when Caitlin Duffy and McKeever were in at the end of the first half. Our next biggest run was at the beginning of the second half. The fourth quarter was basically all of the same lineup, yet we were consistently losing ground. Interesting that there was no shift. ISU's star player had gotten into foul trouble early, and didn't play in the 2nd Q. Not saying that's the whole story, but in the 4rth Q she basically took over the game, and put it out of reach. As far as playing time, there are just too many guards and not enough minutes IMO. AA had an off night. Caitlin was announced as a starter, but didn't. I'm wondering about her health status.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 11, 2017 0:16:14 GMT -6
Holy crap, Coyote Fan! Now you are suddenly the greatest armchair athletic director, the likes of which the world has never seen? Wow!
I occasionally can appreciate your comments on here, but the self-promotion and aggrandizement of your status as a fan is more than I can stomach.
You, me, and everyone else on here are fans and supporters. Not the athletes on the court, not the coaches, and most certainly not the athletic directors. Slow your roll.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 11, 2017 0:21:39 GMT -6
I also wonder about Caitlin's health because her minutes just don't make sense. I really don't see the reason for not playing McKeever though because she is that type of spark plug that seems to be what this team wants to be all about. If it was ISU's strategy to take out the guards that is fine but with a 4 guard lineup they can't double all of them. In the future if the lineup is Duffy, Trimboli, Arens and Bradley all in the game someone is going to be open and all can shoot the rock.
The Yotes should be a deeper team so they should have more energy to spend. With that in mind there is absolutely no reason they should not be at least respectable on defense if not really good. Dawn does recognize that and mentioned the D needing to be better on the post game. With many guards a high pressure ball denying D should work really well. That type of team should create many turnovers and ISU turned it over a lot. The Coyotes are naturally talented scorers so they need to focus much of their energy in practice and in preaching on the D end. If they can get that part down consistently (and D always travels) then the Yotes will be really good. If the D struggles then they will be sort of good.
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Post by elcoyote on Nov 11, 2017 0:23:09 GMT -6
Absolutely incredible...a true legend in his own mind.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 11, 2017 0:34:13 GMT -6
Holy crap, Coyote Fan! Now you are suddenly the greatest armchair athletic director, the likes of which the world has never seen? Wow! I occasionally can appreciate your comments on here, but the self-promotion and aggrandizement of your status as a fan is more than I can stomach. You, me, and everyone else on here are fans and supporters. Not the athletes on the court, not the coaches, and most certainly not the athletic directors. Slow your roll. I would not feel the need to have to do that but posters like yoteforver, cousin eddie and many others choose to attack me personally instead of just responding to a message. I would rather make this not about me but I feel the need to defend myself because people don't like opinions that are different from their own. People recognize the one time yoteforever is right but they ignore all the other times when he is not. Just remember I picked the Coyotes to win 6 straight times and I didn't see people mentioning that but as soon as I predict a loss people go nuts like I am some type of a traitor. People see me as negative but forget how positive I have been about this team most of the time. That is what irks me is that some people only choose to see what they want to see and don't take everything into account. I have been more then fair about this football team and have been happy. There are signs of this team slipping though and it has me personally concerned. Last week was a very costly loss and probably cost this team a chance to have multiple home games in the playoffs. The team needed to win and should have been extra desperate to win knowing they had the trip to Fargo coming the very next week. They had a chance to put the UNI game away but did not do so and in the end that could provide very costly. Now they have to bounce back in a game that they can't count on winning without playing a great football game. If the Coyotes don't pull through in Fargo then they have to play the hottest team in the league if not the country. The Coyotes will be home but the Jacks still have a punchers chance with the way they have been playing.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 11, 2017 8:21:25 GMT -6
It seems like a reasonable time to remind everyone that this board has an ignore function. I recommend it.
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Post by gopheryote on Nov 11, 2017 9:46:38 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure everyone was tired of me using logic & philosophical thought to shut down arguments last year, so I stopped. (maybe that is the 1st lesson here?)
Anyway, some things to note regarding optimism & pessimism, in light of ethics & morals. Through a great deal of effort by several people long before I got here, the ethic of this board has been one of being positive and upbeat, which is a stark and intentional contrast to many fanboards which are a cesspool of name calling, fire the coach, and here is why everything sucks. That is the overriding ethic of this board, and everyone here is expected to join the community.
That said, a member's particular morals may conflict with the groups overriding ethic at times. In those instances, the a responsible individual checks their morals against the ethic. Otherwise you get into moral relativity, where I will destroy any argument and make you look silly.
Please note - that doesn't mean there can't be dissent, venting, frustrations, etc. But we also can't ignore rules of logic. Consistently predicting bad outcomes in no way shows insight when something bad happens, any more than it's opposite. It may feel connected, but usually isn't. We know almost zero about what is going on in the Yotes locker room, and even less what is going on in ISU's (or NDSU's), so to boil that down into one result of a game doesn't add up.
So, it really becomes an issue to the original ethic - why do you or any fan come here? To share insights and info in a common cause? Or to try to drag that common cause into a different spot (not the original ethic). If it is to share insights and info, a positive vibe is required. If it is to drag it into a different spot, you need to start providing more logic than 'I want to win more than you'.
End of rant. Let me know if you are interested in any specific details behind this stuff (you aren't).
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Post by coyoteglory on Nov 12, 2017 20:31:04 GMT -6
I also wonder about Caitlin's health because her minutes just don't make sense. I really don't see the reason for not playing McKeever though because she is that type of spark plug that seems to be what this team wants to be all about. If it was ISU's strategy to take out the guards that is fine but with a 4 guard lineup they can't double all of them. In the future if the lineup is Duffy, Trimboli, Arens and Bradley all in the game someone is going to be open and all can shoot the rock. The Yotes should be a deeper team so they should have more energy to spend. With that in mind there is absolutely no reason they should not be at least respectable on defense if not really good. Dawn does recognize that and mentioned the D needing to be better on the post game. With many guards a high pressure ball denying D should work really well. That type of team should create many turnovers and ISU turned it over a lot. The Coyotes are naturally talented scorers so they need to focus much of their energy in practice and in preaching on the D end. If they can get that part down consistently (and D always travels) then the Yotes will be really good. If the D struggles then they will be sort of good. Completely agree with the question about Caitlin's health. She went from starting on the NIT championship team to barely playing? Not sure what happened there. Also, am I the only one who thinks McKeever should be getting more of Allison Arens' minutes. Our two biggest runs of the game were the end of the first half and beginning of the second. Both were when Arens was out. I feel as though defenses have figured her out much more than last year where she was able to really sneak up on them. Plus, McKeever brings energy. I agree with Coyote Fan re: our deeper team. If someone is playing poorly, you should ride who is playing well. We got up 8 at the beginning of the second half, then subbed in three or four new people and lost it again.
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