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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 8, 2011 1:28:49 GMT -6
USD has had 2 decades of not firing coaches that should have been fired so I am not going to "give it a rest". I never want USD football to sink back to the depths of the 1990's give or take a few years.
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Post by Iceman on Mar 8, 2011 1:30:56 GMT -6
Hey I don't want that to happen either. Who does? I just think you should give it a rest. Wow.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 8, 2011 1:44:00 GMT -6
We should never "give it a rest" as that is what losing program do. Losing programs make excuses for losing. USD lost and should have cut ties and didn't. It's a win-loss business and USD is not progressing enough in football and are actually regressing. The hiring of the co defensive coordinators is further proof. That probably isn't Ed's fault but the program is still regressing because of it. I would rather cut the football program and put the money into basketball then to see another couple of decades of embarrassing football. Since none of us want either and don't want the program cut, lets cut the next best thing. This is way too important of a time and the stakes are too high to accept any sort of incompetance.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 8, 2011 1:46:44 GMT -6
After being around SDSU fans and driving by them and hearing them brag about their women's team it makes me sick. USD needs some spotlight as it's all going north, AGAIN.
What better way to get the spotlight back then to announce a new arena and a new football coach all in the same day. That would be great.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 8, 2011 1:48:08 GMT -6
CF#1 is going to come in here and totally blow a gasket.
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Post by pierreyote on Mar 8, 2011 7:54:48 GMT -6
I'm out. I enjoyed my time here but need to move on. Go Yotes.
*and please don't think there was any particular reason. I just need to focus my love for USD in a different forum/manner.
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Post by Yote 53 on Mar 8, 2011 8:31:51 GMT -6
What other forum?
You don't have to pay attention to CF's ramblings if you don't want to. It is one person's opinion, which he states over and over and over and over again.
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Post by yotemeal on Mar 8, 2011 8:36:14 GMT -6
CF#1 is going to come in here and totally blow a gasket. You've made your position known. Move on. I'm all for expressing opinions, but beating people to death with them adds no value to this forum. The last word isn't always the right one. And FYI - coaches typically don't fire themselves, so if you're suggesting Ed's firing is overdue (which I personally find ridiculous), you're suggesting USD's leadership is equally incompetent. Maybe we need to fire AD Sayler and President Abbott. Those guys clearly don't know what they're doing. Absurd.
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Post by usdlaw on Mar 8, 2011 8:51:41 GMT -6
In other news, ORU was upset on the ladies side and SDSU has a good chance of advancing again on the ladies side of the bracket.
Sorry, but that Oakland SDSU game last night might as well been 130 to 80 because it was not close.
Or wasn't I suppose to post that here? This thread was about the tournament right?
This is one of those Billy Madison moments. WOW
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 8, 2011 9:12:20 GMT -6
I just want to make one more comment and will leave this rest after this, barring any necessary rebuttals. The comments "give it a rest". I tell you what as Coyote Fans we shouldn't ever be satisfied until we have a team that can run out of that tunnel and at minimum deep down you know is a team that many outsiders think at minimum can win the Missouri Valley, If not the National title. Anything less it not acceptable and if it is considered acceptable by Coyote National we will not win any conference titles until that standard is upheld. I am long of breath and causing headaches but don't accept less that the best.
Yotemeal you are a good guy but to say "ridiculous" in suggesting the replacing of our head coach, is sort or accepting at best a mediocre football team. I am not willing to accept that.
Just look what NDSU did year three transition and to a lesser extent SDSU. Aren't they supposed to be our peers. Aren't we supposed to be as good as they are? NDSU fans would never accept the kind of performance on the field that the Yotes gave last fall. Why should Coyote Fans?
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Mar 8, 2011 13:24:00 GMT -6
Coyote Fan, your quote USD can compete if they play well IS what every team says. So you used Centenary as the example. Yes, they stink, but St. Peters went 5-25 a few years ago and BOOM they are in the NCAA. So yeah, EVERY team says that.
Yes, the basketball team took a step back. That is NO surprise. When you lose someone like Tyler Cain, that is going to happen, and also the second best defender in Roman Gentry, even though he looked uninspired against Creighton. When you don't have to players that can step up defensively like that right away, there is going to be a step back. At least USD didn't have an awful year that can happen when you lose two players like that. Take Michigan State for example and how the world has fallen apart right now.
Is this team inconsistent? Yes, but this team is STILL outperforming what they should. Ever ask yourself why the Dome doesn't even host high school playoff basketball games? Because the facilities blows for basketball. How they get recruits is amazing to me.
There is a long way to go to catch up with Oral Roberts, IUPUI and Oakland, but that's because they have been able to recruit every need and more by saying hey, we are starting to become a trending conference that is looked at as a an upset pick in the NCAA tournament, and it's working. USD needs the Arena and the Summit to bring in some pretty good players right now. SDSU is finally getting some of those players, USD needs to get those too.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Mar 8, 2011 13:51:56 GMT -6
And Coyote Fan, what yotemeal meant by give it a rest is stop spamming the board with post after post after post of the same opinion over and over again. Scrolling through five posts back-to-back-to-back and such is very annoying, especially in a BASKETBALL thread.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 8, 2011 13:55:45 GMT -6
I don't believe that USD is outperforming where they should be. I believe they are about where they should be maybe below. I will say that they are probably better than where SDSU was in their third year but that is really hard to compare because the Jacks didn't really have the starter league that USD has now. Isn't it fair to say that despite losing Cain that USD should be putting better complimentary players on the floor now than during Cain's D1 years. I would say so. I watched the Summit yesterday and will say that the Great West is simply a solid D2 league. USD needs to get tougher on a more consistant basis and need to be able to hustle the board much more than what they are doing. Right now the Summit teams would just put their best big defender on Gruis, double him on occassion, pressure the our guards, take away the three and we struggle after that. We don't work the ball around enough for good shots like we need to.
I am impressed by Gruis for sure, some of the others are ok but we need to get better to compete with a team like Oral Roberts and IUPUI let alone Oakland.
Back to the point "if USD plays well they can compete". Well since they don't play their best nearly often enough I will than have to say that USD is not ready as things stand now to be competitive on a consistant basis in the Summit. I thought after last season they would be but after a very mediocre year this year now I doubt it more and more. We can get their again but we simply need to get a little more athletic but most of all just need to be a tougher all around team.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Mar 8, 2011 14:02:17 GMT -6
we need to get better to compete with a team like Oral Roberts and IUPUI let alone Oakland. No crap. I think finding NBA prospects like they have would help do the trick...not to mention the fact they have years of experience of recruiting major areas on their side....come on now. Let's get realistic. Even if USD was playing very well with the team it had now and pulled off a 25 game season, they couldn't match up with those three right now. They are on quite the run with quite the teams. Those are three teams that would consistently be some mid of the pack Big 10, SEC, PAC 10 and Big 12 schools right now.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 8, 2011 14:13:01 GMT -6
we need to get better to compete with a team like Oral Roberts and IUPUI let alone Oakland. No crap. I think finding NBA prospects like they have would help do the trick...not to mention the fact they have years of experience of recruiting major areas on their side....come on now. Let's get realistic. Even if USD was playing very well with the team it had now and pulled off a 25 game season, they couldn't match up with those three right now. They are on quite the run with quite the teams. Those are three teams that would consistently be some mid of the pack Big 10, SEC, PAC 10 and Big 12 schools right now. Oakland I give a fighting chance, Oral Roberts I have doubts, IUPUI I have very seriously doubts. That is about competing mid pack in those leagues especially the big 12.
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