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Post by elcoyote on Nov 19, 2017 12:34:23 GMT -6
I don't really understand how we're not hosting and yes, I understand it's a bid process. I checked out their stadium and it's really nothing more than a glorified high school field. The Dome would have a higher seating capacity I would think. Other than that, I do like our draw and that of the entire MVFC for that matter. The conference should win a lot of playoff games.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 19, 2017 13:23:24 GMT -6
The Coyotes get to be that team that carries a big mantle to find out just how good this conference is. The Yotes went 1-4 against the other top 5 teams in the conference. The conference and the nation should be watching how the Coyotes do as they are the only team in the country that is in the playoffs as the 5th most worthy team from their own conference. Is the 5th best team in the MVFC on a level playing field with a team such as Sam Houston.
Just a note to everyone. There are many NDSU fans (and we know they are some of the most Knowledgeable out there) that have been arguing on behalf of the Coyotes and their worthiness to be in the field. The Coyotes were considered one of the last two teams in the field and the Bison fan(s) were saying that the Coyotes should have clearly been in the field. Jacks fans may not like us but the Bison fans kind of have our back. So even though I question the Coyotes worthiness myself based on the finish to the season if you ever meet a Bison fan just remember what they have been saying about us.
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Post by obc on Nov 19, 2017 13:45:01 GMT -6
Had a chance to quickly watch three quarters of the Nicholls St vs SE LA game from yesterday.
Offense
Soph QB - 6' 190 - better thrower than runner. Tall receivers as targets - several over 6'
OL is made of three JRs, one RS Fr and one SR. Three are in the 6'2'' 290 mold, one OT is 6'5'' 295 and the RS FR LG is 6'3'' 330. They got good push against SEL. Run inside zone and also showed speed option to the perimeter. RBs are more like our Michael Frederick - quick and hit the hole well - also threats as receivers out of the backfield. Lots of one back sets with a wing back. Shotgun and under center formations. I would guess USD will use a similar blueprint against this team as we have seen against the MVFC teams - stop the run and make them one dimensional - get pressure on the QB to get sacks, QB hurries and create bad throws. Their WR are big targets and if they get time, will be challenging.
Defense
4-3 base defense - #99 is a transfer from TCU and 6'5'' and 285 - looks lean and fast - will be tough. #55 was mentioned on the broadcast as one of their defensive front's best players - consistently drawing a dbl team. LBs and corners have good speed and did a good job most of the game against a very good running team in SEL. They did give up some big plays however. They will be stout against the run and from looking at them, have the speed to try and bracket Streveler and make yards hard to come by.
Not much to report on special teams
Against Texas A&M early in the season they played them very tough - the game was tied at 14-14 until 7:28 to go in the 4th quarter. That is impressive. USD needs to be ready for a tough team - hopefully USD can jump on them early and take any fight they have away.
Lets all hope Streveler heals quickly this week!
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 19, 2017 13:45:06 GMT -6
Just a little word of caution about this game. We all know that the Coyotes are battle tested but play off worthy or not Nichols State is still a top 30-40 team in the country at worst that lost to Texas A&M by less than 2 touchdowns. The Coyotes cannot expect to just show up and expect a comfortable win. They are going to need to play at least a solid game if not a very good game to come away with a win. This game is not a given that they will win even though the spread shows a -20 advantage for the Coyotes. Nichols State is used to playing in close games and if this game comes down to a one score game in the 4th quarter that would not necessarily play into the Coyotes strength because for one Nichols would have already proven at that point that they can hang.
I think in the Valley the Offensive Line gets neutralized quite a bit considering how good the opposing D-Lines are. To be a little prejudice Southland teams tend to be fast but maybe not as physical. If there was ever a time when the Coyotes could try to win by running the football this might be that instance for the first time since the Southern Illinois game. The best way to beat Nichols is probably just to remain multi-dimensional. In his post game presser Nielson said that Streveler's hand was so banged up and swollen that he could barely grip a football in the week leading up to the SDSU game.
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Post by dave on Nov 19, 2017 13:45:22 GMT -6
The Coyotes get to be that team that carries a big mantle to find out just how good this conference is. UNI gets Monmouth, Western gets Weber and the Bison bracket only has you guys as the only MVFC on their side of the bracket, plenty of MVFC teams that get to carry the MVFC mantle and show the rest of the FCS how tough this conference is, don't get too full of yourself CF, a few short hours ago you were writing epic posts proposing boycotts of USD football. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 19, 2017 14:00:30 GMT -6
The Coyotes get to be that team that carries a big mantle to find out just how good this conference is. UNI gets Monmouth, Western gets Weber and the Bison bracket only has you guys as the only MVFC on their side of the bracket, plenty of MVFC teams that get to carry the MVFC mantle and show the rest of the FCS how tough this conference is, don't get too full of yourself CF, a few short hours ago you were writing epic posts proposing boycotts of USD football. That post was not meant in any way to be an arrogant post. My point is that the Coyotes are the only team in the country that is considered the 5th best team in their conference that made the field. Because of that people will be paying attention to see whether the Valley is worthy of having that type of team in the post season. People that argue that the Valley doesn't deserve 5 teams are going to look at how the Coyotes do. That is kind of carrying a mantle for the depth of the conference. We all know there are 4 other teams that will also show what this conference is about and at least two of those teams are expected to make a deeper run than what the Coyotes are likely to make. I have already said that I didn't think the Coyotes were deserving of a playoff berth because of how they finished the season. The computers saved this football team because they had a great SOS and despite losing 4 of 5 none of the losses were considered bad losses. Other teams in the discussion with USD probably had more questionable losses. The Coyotes got in because of how they played early in the season more so then probably any other team in the field. I think the Coyotes received a major gift this morning not only by just making it but also because of the draw they got. SDSU has been there and done that for many years and never received as favorable of a draw without being seeded than what the Coyotes just received. |
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Post by dewars on Nov 19, 2017 14:33:20 GMT -6
Sagarin Ratings has you about a -18 favorite on the road. Do you sit your quarterback or have him come off the bench if necessary? Would a week off get him healed for Sam Houston State. Understand your #2 guy is pretty good.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 19, 2017 14:56:15 GMT -6
This is kind of how I see the game playing out down at Nichols. It's either going to be a 2 score or more win for the Coyotes or Nichols will win in a close game likely decided in the 4th quarter. I am giving the Coyotes a 60% chance. The reason I believe that is just because apparently they are the better football team, period. The reason I think it isn't a higher percentage is that the Coyotes mentality just isn't likely to be very good and their confidence is nowhere near what it was earlier in the season. Things just haven't been breaking the right way for the team and they will be the road team. I believe for the Coyotes to win on the road with how things have been trending I just feel they need to be significantly the better football team to win. Many people are likely to think USD is quite a bit better and they will need to be. The Coyotes have lost 2 football games where they have out gained their opponent by basically 200 yards. The game will probably come down to how opportunistic this team ends up being. I think the Coyotes need to get out the film of the Western Illinois game to see what they did through the first 2.5 quarters in that game. They could actually learn a lot from that whole game. They were so good early and then really let it slip away towards the end. They can learn what not to do in the last 1.5 quarters in that one. That is not to say that Nichols is anything like WIU but the film would be good from a mentality stand point as much as an X's and O's stand point. That was probably the pinnacle game for the Coyotes offense being dominant against a good team.
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Post by bisoninnwmn on Nov 19, 2017 15:17:44 GMT -6
Congrats on the Coyotes and their 1st D1 playoff game. I've watched a couple of NSU games and USD is the better team. Streveler, if 100%, will eat this team up.
This is a good draw for the Coyotes.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 19, 2017 15:49:01 GMT -6
The Coyotes get to be that team that carries a big mantle to find out just how good this conference is. UNI gets Monmouth, Western gets Weber and the Bison bracket only has you guys as the only MVFC on their side of the bracket, plenty of MVFC teams that get to carry the MVFC mantle and show the rest of the FCS how tough this conference is, don't get too full of yourself CF, a few short hours ago you were writing epic posts proposing boycotts of USD football. He's over on AGS telling everybody his "percentages" and predicting a USD loss by round two at SHSU. Real Coyote Fan, aren't you CF? |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 19, 2017 15:58:10 GMT -6
You should know by now that what I predict to happen and what I want to happen are two different things and I think I have a pretty good record with my predictions. As of now I am predicting a Coyote win at Nichols but only by a slight margin (not necessarily the score but the percentage chances of a win). I think predicting a Sam Houston win isn't exactly going out on a limb. They have been there done that and have more experience in the post season. They haven't played as tough of a schedule but they are a 10-1 team (or maybe they are 9-2). You can't finish the season 1-4 and expect to go out and start dominating and/or beating good football teams. Nichols may or may not be playoff worthy but they are still a good team that USD will have to play well to beat. This isn't Indiana State we are playing. If you are looking for a dishwasher and you call whirlpool which brand do you think they will recommend that you buy. That is like asking a fan of a particular team who they will pick to win. Of course they will pick their own team most of the time. I am not that kind of fan. I use an unbiased approach when it comes to forecasting what will actually happen. When you call me you will get the best dishwasher regardless of brand. I will give you that unbiased opinion based on facts and logical opinions. If you want someone to sprinkle Coyote dust on you there are plenty of options for that. If you want a better chance to know who will win I would go the unbiased route. Unfortunately on Saturday I gave you the wrong dishwasher brand and was a little too brainwashed by my own company. I really thought is was Whirlpool but it ended up being that damn blue and yellow Kenmore this time.  |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 19, 2017 17:02:29 GMT -6
As strange as it may seem and as unlikely as it may be I believe there is a 1 in about a 200 chance that the Coyotes could actually play at home again but it would take some clarification.
Does anyone know if the Coyotes were to defeat Nichols State and Sam Houston State and ended up playing an unseeded team in the quarter-finals how it is determined where the game would be played. I would think it would be based on the original bidding process for a home game but I don't think I have ever really thought of that senario playing out and it would be rare.
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Post by yodayote on Nov 19, 2017 18:03:58 GMT -6
As strange as it may seem and as unlikely as it may be I believe there is a 1 in about a 200 chance that the Coyotes could actually play at home again but it would take some clarification. Does anyone know if the Coyotes were to defeat Nichols State and Sam Houston State and ended up playing an unseeded team in the quarter-finals how it is determined where the game would be played. I would think it would be based on the original bidding process for a home game but I don't think I have ever really thought of that senario playing out and it would be rare. Every team has submitted bids for each round. As the you go further in the playoffs the minimum bids increase. If you are a seeded team and you have submitted at least the minimum bid you will host the game. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 19, 2017 18:37:08 GMT -6
How did we get outbid by Nicholls? Considering the money we laid out for the WNIT run, we couldn't put in a big enough bid for the first home playoff game at home in 30+ years?
I had Thanksgiving cancelled, guess I'll be going to the parents house Saturday now.
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Post by yotter on Nov 19, 2017 18:41:34 GMT -6
I agree!! Would be fun to look at to see how much schools paid.
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